England is still paying interest on ancient loans from WWI. These loans are INFINITE. They will never vanish. The interest paid has paid off the loans many times over. England has a long history of falling into depressions that sometimes last for more than a generation. Seems that Japan likes to do the same.
So today, we read very old newspapers and talk about very old debts. And how depressions are beloved of coupon clippers and other people who rely on collecting rents and holding bonds.
CLICK HERE LARGE PRINT EDITION: ENGLAND’S ETERNAL DEBTS « Culture of Life News 2
Hedge Fund Manager Hendry Bets on British Deflation, Buys World War I Debt
(Bloomberg) – Hugh Hendry, who oversees about $500 million as co-founder of Ecletica Asset Management in London, said he’s buying World War I debt on the bet the U.K. is due for its worst round of deflation since the Great Depression.
The gilts, known as perpetuals because they have no maturity date, have a coupon of 3.5 percent compared with the U.K.’s 4.5 percent inflation rate. Investors hold about 1.9 billion pounds ($2.9 billion) of the securities that still pay interest 90 years after the end of the Great War, according to the U.K.’s Debt Management Office.
“If you have a deflationary shock, the only instrument that will perform will be government debt,” said Hendry, 39, whose Eclectica Fund returned 38 percent this year, putting it in the top 1 percent of 1,817 funds tracked by Bloomberg. “Inflation is going to be back some day. But forget the next 12 years; it’s the next 12 months that matter.”
This is how welfare systems really work: coupon clippers who get their hands on government debt that is NEVER paid off! If one has enough of these debts, one can sit back and enjoy life….but ONLY if there is a depression! Here is an extremely old newspaper story from the beginning of the Long Depression:
THE TRADE DEPRESSION IN ENGLAND. – The New York Times December 1, 1878

Two years ago, I decided the key to understanding the present international collapse is to understand previous ones. Many people refer to the Great Depression. Some refer to the Panic of 1907. Fewer talk about the 19th century collapses. The post-Civil War collapse that enveloped all of Europe as well as the US and South America and even extended deep into Asia and Africa is of greatest interest to me. It was the first ‘developed capitalist nations’ collapsing and causing a cascade of monetary as well as trade woes.
What makes me sit back and laugh very hard is the last paragraph of this story: ’Without going further back along the chain of causes, we find that prior to 1874, an era of SPECULATIVE ACTIVITY, DURING WHICH CONSUMPTION WAS ABNORMAL, both profits and wages correspondingly high. In other words, the business reporters over a century ago were quite clear about what was the cause of these crashes! WHAT THE HELL???
HAHAHAHA! Well! Haven’t we all matured over the centuries? Sad, isn’t it? Today, we have a parade of pirates and gnomes, none of whom want to be punished for creating and inflating one of the worst speculative bubbles in history, all of them claiming, ‘NO ONE KNEW THIS WOULD HAPPEN!’ All of these clowns are ‘geniuses’ yet a humble, ill-paid business reporter in 1878 could figure out what is obvious. This hyper-smart reporter is a million times smarter than today’s economic geniuses running our systems into the ground. He even figures out another obvious thing: the bubble that burst didn’t affect any one country nor industry: it was global. The entire article is a good read because it was written by an intelligent, now anonymous reporter who obviously had a better grounding in the dynamics of economic systems compared to the lunatic crew that is destroying us today.
England slid into this depression after the collapse of the 1878 speculative bubble. This was called ‘the Long Depression.’ Indeed, the Great Depression didn’t start in England in 1930. It began at the end of WWI. The debts from that war were supposed to be paid off by the Germans. So England felt certain, just like Germany in 1873, that war reparations would bring in wealth and it didn’t matter if the government handed out INFINITE debt notes in 1914.
The French ran a lottery/subscription to pay the war reparations to Germany [this whole business led to WWI, by the way]. This lottery was so popular [note how they used gambling tools to dig themselves out of difficulties!] it was grossly over-subscribed so there was two floods of money flowing suddenly in Europe. This, in turn, spurred speculative deals where people poured this loot into various industries, rail road building, etc across the planet.
Like all speculative bubbles, this was very delicate and when the US needs for more money for war ended with the surrender of the South, the whole system had one last run up to infinity and collapsed very suddenly in a matter of days, starting in Vienna and rapidly moving across the world as speculators were forced into default and banks closed their doors.
Back to the news about Britain STILL not paying off the 100 year old war debts: coupon clippers owning debt, especially government debts, like to do this to infinity. To passively sit there and wait for the money to pour in is paradise! But they hate inflation! Governments can’t sell debt unless they promise people they will get infinite returns over hundreds of years. This is why government debt goes so cheap: people figure, governments will be around a long, long time. Whereas, businesses go belly up.
The 1917 notes were first sold with a coupon of 5 percent, a rate Prime Minister Lloyd George regarded as “penal,” according to Johnston’s book, first published in 1934 and republished by Ossian Publishers Ltd. in 1994. Neville Chamberlain, then Chancellor of the Exchequer, cut the coupon payment to 3.5 percent in 1932, where it has remained ever since.
The U.K. is unlikely to call the debt or retire it early because it would have to buy the bonds back at par, Hendry added. The gilts trade at about 78 pence today.
“The vast majority of this is locked up with retail investors,” said Diebel. Were the government to call the loans “they would be taking it away from households, rather than banks,” he added.
Savers love depressions and spenders love inflation. Systems waver between one or the other. If any one or the other gets their way, totally, we get to live with the terrors of either the Goddess of Inflation or the Goddess of Depression. Instead, we must strive to balance these forces. The entire excuse for a central bank was, they would do this service effortlessly via interest rate manipulations which controls the money supply.
One thing is absolutely certain: no one should ever be allowed to issue infinite debt. England has been politically paralyzed by the coupon clippers who want this ridiculous debt to go forwards, forever. This is like using a damn credit card! And never paying off any of the balance, ever! Credit card companies hate people who pay up. They love people who are deep in debt and keep paying over and over again, for years, for things that cost very little compared to the compounding payments that double, redouble and so on to infinity.
The more a system relies on these sorts of open-ended infinite loans [credit cards are infinite!] end up in depressions because people have to spend precious income on paying interest on things that dwindled in relation to the debts to nearly nothing. After paying interest for 100 years, the principal is not paid down even one penny! This is very destructive. This is why there has to be limits on debt issuance. The US, like England, is simply piling more new debts on old debts and turning the old ones over and over so they become a bigger and bigger dead weight on the present.
Yields `Next to Nothing’ Lure Treasury-Only Funds to Goldman, Morgan Bonds
(Bloomberg) — In the best year for Treasuries since 2002, fund managers who only buy government bonds are seeking permission to invest in corporate debt they considered toxic just a month ago….
While U.S. government debt returned 10.1 percent on average this year, the most since 11.6 percent in all of 2002, Merrill Lynch & Co. index data show, yields dropped so low that fund managers have little chance of offering anything but subpar returns in 2009. Two-year Treasury note yields fell to a record low 0.95 percent on Nov. 20.
That helps explain why BB&T, BlackRock Inc., T. Rowe Price Group Inc. and Sage Advisory Services Ltd. are looking elsewhere for returns, including bonds of the banks that were almost ruined by $967 billion in losses and writedowns since the start of 2007. Treasury funds are receiving permission to buy debt of Morgan Stanley, JPMorgan Chase & Co. and Goldman Sachs Group Inc. after the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. finalized plans on Nov. 21 to guarantee their debt.
This is the game today: have the government take all responsibility for insuring against losses so the guys whose over-speculation actions caused this mess can buy up each other’s profit making systems. The government is the bank. But we still don’t run the Federal Reserve which remains firmly in the hands and the control of….Morgan Stanely, JP Morgan, Chase, etc! They are selling to themselves the good stuff while sticking us with the crummy stuff. They get to be the ‘good bank’ and the taxpayers are the ‘crappy bank.’
This is a classic transfer of wealth. Via moving risks and losses off of the books of the speculators and onto the taxpayers.
Company Bonds Return Most Since ‘03 With Record Yields to Government Debt
Investment-grade U.S. bonds returned 3.6 percent this month, after losing 7.4 percent in October, as Treasury yields declined on concern the recession is deepening, according to Merrill Lynch & Co. indexes. European notes returned 1.5 percent, the most since September 2003. The positive returns were the first since August, before the collapse of Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. sent company debt tumbling. Sales of new debt rose.
Increased issuance is “the best possible news for the market,” said Santiago Rubio, who helps oversee 14 billion euros ($18 billion) as the Madrid-based head of asset allocation at a unit of La Caixa, Spain’s biggest savings bank. “There was a chance that premiums offered wouldn’t be enough to attract investors,” but they “are working,” he said.
The extra yield on investment-grade debt over government bonds in the U.S. rose by 0.33 percentage point to an average 6.39 percentage points, the highest since Merrill started collecting the data in 1996. Spreads on European bonds rose 0.21 percentage point to a record 4.14 percentage points.
As the spread between one month government bonds and 10 year bonds narrows to nothing, the spread between business and government bonds widens. This sets into motion the ‘depression’ cycle systems. I would suggest, since so many investment [I wrote 'infestment'
] banks hold a lot of this stuff, they will want a depression cycle to enhance these bonds. If they hold mostly stocks, for example, they want inflation.
This is why, when systems reset, it is so hard to change them. The bankers and investment houses at the center of the messes they created in the past hang on for dear life to whatever new system they have created. For example, Japan could have ended its own ‘Long Depression’ easily when the rest of the world was going into a wild bubble/inflation cycle. But they didn’t because of political power in the upper reaches as well as an army of coupon clippers who loved the depression. Even as it kills off the next generation.
Last year, the financiers wanted to resume the inflation cycle systems. This year, now that they all hold a lot of long-term government debt that was granted so they could ‘recapitalize’ themselves, they will want zero or negative inflation! DUH. So they will lock us in a low-interest but NO LENDING cycle! Like in Japan.
Tudor’s $10 Billion BVI Suspends Withdrawals, Plans Split Into Two Funds
(Bloomberg) — Tudor Investment Corp., the firm run by Paul Tudor Jones, temporarily suspended redemptions from the $10 billion BVI Global Fund Ltd. as it splits the hedge fund into two, according to a person familiar with the matter.
Tudor is planning to put hard-to-sell investments, mostly corporate bonds and loans from emerging markets, into a new fund called Legacy, said the person, who asked not to be identified because the information is private. BVI Global, which started in 1986, would focus on easier-to-trade stocks, bonds, commodities and currencies.
More than 80 firms have liquidated funds, restricted redemptions or segregated assets following stock-market declines and a credit freeze that started with rising defaults on U.S. subprime mortgages. Emerging-markets securities have fallen as commodity prices plunged and investors shunned riskier assets on concern the global economy is entering a recession. The MSCI Emerging Markets Index has dropped 58 percent this year.
Another example in today’s news of the ‘bad bank/good bank’ way of eliminating losses or moving it to a secure place [the central banks and the government] so the speculators can create a new mess. The fact that the hedge fund fiends are now going into ’safe’ investments mean, they will want a depression so the earnings they get will ‘grow’ via dropping prices.
All of this will work only if there are no wars in the Middle East. The biggest generator of inflation, bar none, is wars in the oil pumping regions of the planet! Every burst of domestic inflation has its origins in sudden price hikes in oil due to wars. The US and Israel stopped menacing Iran last summer due to the high oil prices.
The more they harassed Iran, the higher the price of oil went. This dynamic was ridiculously obvious. Iran knew this and egged everyone into doing it. Now, the US has fallen silent…but not for long. As I will explain later. The dynamics driving the Middle East into wars are very powerful and getting worse, not better. We will have another disruption in global oil markets. This is 100% certain. In the next 10 years.
Yen Gains Against Dollar, Euro as Manufacturing Slump Weakens Yuan, Ruble
The yen rose versus the British pound and New Zealand dollar as reports showed a slump in South Korean exports and a decline in Japanese wages. China’s yuan fell the most in seven weeks as manufacturing contracted by a record, while the ruble slid to a 2 1/2-year low as output shrank more than during the 1998 crisis. Central banks in the U.K., the euro region, Australia and New Zealand are forecast to cut interest rates by as much as 1.5 percentage points this week to stem the slump.
“There’s evidence that the global slowdown is getting deeper,” said Michael Klawitter, a currency strategist with Dresdner Kleinwort in Frankfurt. “Central banks across the globe will converge at extremely low levels and that’s firmly positive for the yen.”
All systems are dynamic. The yen was riding a weak currency/depression dynamic that allowed the Bank of Japan to flood the planet with epic amounts of speculative funny money lent to pirates and gnomes of every breed and origin. Now, this is unwinding rapidly and very violently. The yen is now at 93 to the dollar. This is far too strong for the exporters of Japan to stomach for long. They are seeking every possible way to undo this and restart the status quo. But despite having the G7 and even G20 declare, they want this too, it won’t happen.
As I said in the past, when all nations are at 0% interest, Japan has nothing and can’t stop the yen from strengthening. For the strength of a currency is supposed, in the floating currency regime, strengthen. Japan and Germany both had the world’s biggest trade profits in 2007. Both are feeling the pain of a loss of sales power during the last year. This is inevitable. They can’t run their systems so they get all the profits, forever. Anymore than coupon clippers should get interest on 100 year old debts forever.
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32 Comments
December 1, 2008 at 3:21 pm
Food (Quote’s) for thought…….Orwell’s seems most appropriate……………………………………………………………..
Noam Chomsky:
[T]he commissars, the secular priesthood, the state ideologists…I think it is an extremely corrupt group. I think this is also the group that is the most subject to effective indoctrination, tends to have the least understanding of what is happening in the world, in fact, tends to have a sort of institutionalized stupidity.
Mark Twain:
Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.
George Orwell:
Whether the British ruling class are wicked or merely stupid is one of the most difficult questions of our time.
December 1, 2008 at 3:35 pm
One can be both wicked and stupid at the same time. Look at Bush.
December 1, 2008 at 4:26 pm
SORRY ABOUT CHANGING THINGS YET AGAIN!
I didn’t like the yellow boxes. They just put up this new template and it works better than most of the older ones.
Each template operates differently. Some had the type for ‘comments’ so small, I couldn’t read them. Others had crummy typefaces in general.
Some were too white, others, too busy. This one seems to be the best one so far. One reader from Canada sent me a donation and asked me to make the comments appear in various boxes so they don’t ‘run together’ and this template does that.
To Mr. R.S. in Montreal: I tried to email you but the email address didn’t work! I must had made some sort of mistake. If you email me, I would love it! Thanks for the wonderful donation.
And so many readers here have been wonderfully generous. I can’t thank everyone enough! I will be still toying with this site until it makes me very happy.
I need feedback!
About this new template: I can post bigger pictures! This matters a great deal to me. So I am quote happy about this.
December 1, 2008 at 4:33 pm
Elaine- Again, thanks for giving us investigative journalism. In this historical perspective I think you have hit at the two main problems. First, and the smaller problem, is that war will ravage peoples future savings and this is not adequately avoided.
The second key you hit is the fact that England is still paying for WW1 – what a shock; but this also points us to the real problem that must end if humanity is to ever be free and prosperous.
The real problem is that countries are really just proxy states to their central bankers. The central bankers charge us interest which is immoral and parasitic. Why should England, if it were a true sovereign nation, owe any bank interest?
Every nation should be able to create it’s money clear and free from interest. In the US for example, we could simply eliminate the Fed – and save the interest.
The central banks create our problems – it really doesn’t matter if a country decides on socialism, communism or capitalism – none may operate properly with the presence of this predatory and parasitic force.
States need to become sovereign in shedding their central banks and then all interest should be abolished in both the public and private sector.
If an individual wants to buy a house, they should be expected to provide a significant down payment (20%?) and then the balance of the principle should be divided by the payment intervals.
Why should a bank be rewarded with interest on money they created out of thin air? What risk are they taking other than being required to maintain some fractional rate? Couldn’t this small risk be rewarded with fees?
If others with extra capital want to prosper from their money by making it available to others – there are many ways to reward them for example, fees, leasing, rent or dividends.
The demon that is at the heart of our central bank monetary system is the fact that we must always have more debt than money. The debt may never be fully repaid and every year, a minimum amount of new debt must be issued – adequate to service the interest payments (the interest is never created) of past debt.
The amount of interest grows at an exponential rate – and cannot be indefinitely sustained. There will come a time when there aren’t enough willing and worthy borrowers to feed the beast. This is where we are and this is why we will fail.
Here is a good reference to my point:
http://financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/2005/1212b.html
December 1, 2008 at 5:01 pm
Yes, the depression plan is well under way. After you inflate an economy with massive lending that causes a huge speculative party, it becomes painfully easy to contract credit and collapse the whole show.
And for confirmation that banks do not plan, yet, to lend any of the 7 trillion of our future tax revenue that they have stolen to increase their ‘reserves’ it the law change that allows the Federal Reserve (Criminal Private Banking Monopoly) to pay interest to their banking friends on money sitting there idle.
So next comes the food rationing. Modern agriculture depends on massive inputs of Ammonium Nitrate that depends on massive inputs of debt to purchase.
Any guesses why they might be rationing AN? Guess what other uses it might have. Of course it is a key ingredient for weapons during wartime.
They are saving up their credit and AN to fund the mother of all wars and create MANY, MANY more of these lovely infinite coupon debts (mentioned above) that they can accumulate and hand off to their great-grand children living on the estates that are far, far away from the depopulation carnage planned.
Let’s have a look at our favorite CIA controlled hangout to check on the ammonia pipeline plans.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/11/27/11143/168/114/667032
“The fall nitrogen fertilizer application has been 10% of the norm. A typical year would see 50% put on in the fall and 50% in the spring. During fertilizer application season the 3,100 mile national ammonia pipeline network runs flat out and the far points on the network experience low flow both fall and spring. If they try to jam 90% of the fertilization into a period of time when the system can only flow a little more than half of the need much of our cropland will go without in the spring of 2009.”
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Now let’s have a look at the Rothschild controlled Reuters to see how they are benefiting from the depression.
Oh goodie, it looks like the depression is expanding their credit card debt portfolio, which pays 18%, as the peasants use their cards to eat their factory output.
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE4B01HI20081201
“The second-largest merchant-vendor for credit card use is now McDonalds. “
December 1, 2008 at 5:05 pm
hordes of pepople’ dont care about much and if they do it just strikes a ‘tone’
http://www.cahrecords.com
vote your paycheck
December 1, 2008 at 5:15 pm
Elaine – If you want my opinion the “Culture of LIfe” banner color now clashes with the “blue-tinted” color’s on the side. Otherwise, this seems like a nice update.
Peace,
Ken
P.S. Going back to playing more “1701″ – seems more sane to me!
December 1, 2008 at 5:25 pm
Plus the newspaper clippings are awesome – like a trip back in time.
Peace,
Ken
December 1, 2008 at 5:55 pm
Good luck, Mr. Hendry, with your 3.5%. Once again the GBP stepped off a cliff against the SFr, after another Sisyphus-like climb back from 1.75 to 1.872-ish (on Friday!). As I type, 1.79-ish. One day drop of 4% plus. Market has already priced in another 1% rate cut here in the UK , fully expecting a 1% rate in the near future. The cut is due Thursday – expect pandemonium if Merv fails to deliver; maybe, if he does.
As to “Perpetuals”, found this definition:
“Undated or perpetual Gilts. These instruments differ from conventional Gilts as they have no set maturity date. They may (or may not!) be paid back at a time of the government’s choosing. Because of this the holder is reliant on the market price to liquidate his investment, and as such they should be viewed as more risky than conventional Gilts. The most well known amongst this group is the UK 3.5% War Loan.
These instruments are more volatile than conventional Gilts (which inevitably trend towards par).”
http://tinyurl.com/5qyhyl
Risky is as Risky does.
Oh, oh. 1.79 did not hold.
December 1, 2008 at 5:57 pm
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Bush administration backed off proposed crackdowns on no-money-down, interest-only mortgages years before the economy
CNN – Money
Regulators ignored warnings about risky mortgages, delayed regulations on the industry.
December 1, 2008 at 5:59 pm
Elaine,
This new blog theme is God-Awful. Please go bacck. The former one was fine.
December 1, 2008 at 6:07 pm
Oh, my post seems to have gone to cyber-heaven. Will copy before posting in future. Went something like this:
Good luck, Mr. Hendry, with your 3.5%. Consider your GBP currency against the SFr (I watch the dollar in disbelief). After a two-week, Sisyphus-like climb back from 1.75 it hit 1.872 on Friday. As I type, it has dropped through 1.792 (61.8% retracement) and may be heading to 1.773. That’s over 4% in one day.
As to “Perpetuals”:
“Undated or perpetual Gilts. These instruments differ from conventional Gilts as they have no set maturity date. They may (or may not!) be paid back at a time of the government’s choosing. Because of this the holder is reliant on the market price to liquidate his investment, and as such they should be viewed as more risky than conventional Gilts. The most well known amongst this group is the UK 3.5% War Loan.
These instruments are more volatile than conventional Gilts (which inevitably trend towards par).”
http://tinyurl.com/5qyhyl
Risky is as Risky does.
December 1, 2008 at 6:13 pm
Sorry for the repeat post. The first one seemed to hang and wasn’t there on a refresh, so retyped it.
This format does not recognise line spacing (blank lines I insert for ‘clarity’
)
It is also pretty wishy-washy. And blue and white is NOT my favourite combination
December 1, 2008 at 6:30 pm
Another fine hystorical romp. And today Mr Kunstler also has a fine appraisal of the coming months and the agonies that the incoming president will face.
I notice that I have failed to wish all here a happy set of whatever holidays you will be or have been facing … consider yourselves merrily wished.
Elaine I like the separate boxes for comments. I suspect you could use a better “colour splash” than the drismal blue and white.
December 1, 2008 at 6:55 pm
The peasants have lost the ability to embed images in our comments using the left bracket IMG right bracket notation. If a picture is worth a thousand words, we have been neutralized.
I have also noticed that the new PDF viewer prevents you from using the text selector tool to copy chunks of text.
You can only grab images.
Also, if you have been sucked into the Google Click-Industrial complex, with a complete SS Dossier of your search history stored PERMANENTLY on their servers, you need to immediately delete that bookmark and use this one instead.
http://www.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/scraper.htm
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December 1, 2008 at 7:08 pm
Here is something that is really annoying. Acrobat 6.0 is not compatible with Window’s Vista operating system – I’ve had to rig it to get it to work and many features are unavailable even though I paid fair and square for both.
Here is something that is even worse. Window’s Vista is not backwards compatible with older versions of Window’s Help (embedded in software that folled the format Microsoft desired – for example the program “Drafix” – a great little CAD program). Microsoft isn’t even compatible with its own self and with what it demanded others do to be compatible with it (like use Windows help). And for what can we ask? Just so the fools keep buying software that ain’t no different (relatively speaking) from the last version.
Backwards compatibility should be required. Microsoft should be eliminated as the monopoly that it is. Microsoft should be terminated. Capital punishment for the unalive corporation. There is a long list. Don’t you think?
Peace,
Ken
P.S. In defense of the color on the sides, it is actually one my favorites!
December 1, 2008 at 7:15 pm
And what the heaven, here is another thing I found odd. It was from someone at Wachovia (an entity I guess that is on its way out). Anyhow, this fella offered me an investment with a f****** guaranteed return (4 or 5% I think). I said that is too good to be true. It must be a scam. Just like all those companies that used to be the index no longer exist, such is the case with the above scam. You are a sucker if you think you will ever get a guaranteed return.
There is always risk – don’t you think?
Peace,
Ken
December 1, 2008 at 7:19 pm
Think about this guaranteed return — it is no different than the “forever” stamp. A fallacy. When will these goofy economist learn to stop trying to “play” with infinity. Infinity wraps and claps and don’t give no crap about any fool trying to play with it. “Nothing” knows this.
Still ain’t it time for some capital punishment for harmful entities that ain’t even alive in the first place?
Peace,
Ken
December 1, 2008 at 7:22 pm
Plus I still think the stinking queen of eng-land and her nobility pals are sitting on some big-time ill-gotten gains. Let go would be my advice.
I can dream.
December 1, 2008 at 7:41 pm
Ken:
Came across this comment over the weekend:
“The day that Microsoft makes a product that doesn’t suck is the day they start making vacuum cleaners.”
December 1, 2008 at 7:42 pm
So if not Microsoft, then how about Wal-Mart. Hillary should know a thing or two about Wal-Mart shouldn’t she – and now I guess she’s in the cabinet.
Here is another thing — how about getting grounded. Lets start with the Drones (predators that they are). Gates should know something about that wasn’t he just singning the praises of drone attacks recently. Guess he doesn’t like weddings. Anyhow, maybe he can be sensible instead of so fucking offensive.
There’s another Gates out there somewhere isn’t there. Billy Bad Ass something. Him and his buffetting buddy. I wouldn’t follow the buffeting buddies advice if you had a gun in my face. He ain’t nothing but the old status quo. Seem like all of em are.
Hard to be hopeful under these circumstances. Better just be to be local. Maybe even loco.
Later,
Ken
December 1, 2008 at 7:47 pm
Bear – Here’s the shame. I betcha there are a helluva-a-lot incredible programmers with “the little soft one”, and all their effort is for what? Billy bad ass and his poker buddies? What a shame.
We need an immediate estate tax. Sorry to say it, but seems like it is inevitable.
Too bad the non-speaker tried to take impeachment off of the People’s table. What a mega fool pumped-up fools she is. Both her and her husband especially when they were dining in the void-house in the made-up city of DC with skulls and bones all around plotting this and that. They are already dust – don’t you think?
Good for the rest of us when they drift off and float away.
Peace,
Ken
December 1, 2008 at 7:51 pm
Then if you want some hope….hopefully after they float away there will be some sensible People ready to fill the void with something worthwhile.
I kind of also miss the actual times on the posts, but I suppose the info is somewhere, and really the times ain’t nothing but numbers. The order is probably what matters.
Peace and signing off:
Ken
December 1, 2008 at 7:56 pm
Here’s an interesting quote from Ambrose Evans-Pritchard:
In the 1930s, it was not obvious to people living through debt deflation that their world was coming apart. The crisis came in pulses, each followed by months of apparent normality – like today.
The global system did not snap until September 1931. The trigger was a mutiny by Royal Navy ratings at Invergordon over pay cuts. Sailors on four battleships refused to put out to sea. They sang the Red Flag.
News that the British Empire could not uphold military discipline set off capital flight. Britain was forced off the gold standard within five days. A chunk of the world followed suit.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/ambroseevans_pritchard/3537362/World-stability-hangs-by-a-thread-as-economies-continue-to-unravel.html
When the US military starts to mutiny, is that our sign that the dollar is about to die?
December 1, 2008 at 8:02 pm
OK: about the colors here: I am now going to buy their upscale services and get control of the HTML of this particular design. The other designs had too many problems to correct. This one merely needs to have the color codes changed and I can do this once I buy the services.
So expect some color changes in the next few days.
December 1, 2008 at 8:56 pm
flash:
You have a good point: I’m reminded that the German navy also mutinied in 1918:
“While the war-weary troops and the population disappointed by the Kaiser’s government awaited the speedy end of the war, the Imperial Naval Command (see Kaiserliche Marine) in Kiel under Admiral Franz von Hipper, without authorization, planned to dispatch the fleet for a last battle against the Royal Navy in the English Channel.
The naval order of 24 October 1918 and the preparations to sail first triggered a mutiny among the affected sailors and then a general revolution which was to sweep aside the monarchy within a few days. The mutinous sailors had no intention of being needlessly sacrificed in the last moment of the war. They were also convinced that the credibility of the new democratic government which was seeking peace would have been compromised by a simultaneous naval attack.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Revolution
It is difficult to appreciate just how strong the class system was until you watch the deferential nature of the newsreels of the early 20thC.
December 1, 2008 at 10:10 pm
Germany nearly had a Russian Revolution. Instead, they tottered off to have a faux democracy that turned into one of the nastiest fascist dictatorships in history of humanity.
December 1, 2008 at 11:32 pm
In my opinion Hugh Hendry is a genius, one of the few CNBC/Bloomberg guests whose advice I follow with my money. He has called the recession correctly since 2001, just like Roubini, but they have now diverged. Hendry is now preaching against bailouts and calling for inflation (once the current deleveraging dies down) whilst I believe Roubini is still calling for deflation and bailouts.
Three weeks ago Hendry recommended buying 10 year treasuries, even though they have had a 40% run already, and many are claiming they are due for a pullback. He predicted 10 year yields would fall to 2.5% next year when it will be time to cash them in and switch to gold.
I bought some treasuries, intending to sell them in perhaps 6-9 months time when the yield had fallen to 2.5%, and yet already by today they are down to 2.7%, and with Bernanke kindly threatening to start buying them in his speech today even lower yields are possible. It appears the collapse is happening at a faster rate than even Hugh Hendry anticipated.
If ever you get the chance to listen to Hugh Hendry I recommend you take notice of what he says. Even if you don’t agree with him, he’s a great performer and very entertaining.
December 2, 2008 at 2:54 am
I don’t have cable on my mountain. I am lucky to have an internet connection.
I do miss some of the entertaining people on TV but it is bad for my blood pressure. It is better to talk back online!
December 2, 2008 at 10:18 am
so what’s the dilio, ought we buy physical gold, us treasuries (10yr, at any rate above 0), or merely start diy collapse-proof side businesses? or mooove?
December 3, 2008 at 6:08 pm
fingo from awhile ago – don’t you think it depends on your connection to the community, your ability to purchase (or lack thereof), expected future income, who you know, and what the present local situation is (subjective obviously)? There is no single answer to your question regarding the dilio. I try to deal with everyone, but I’m a gamer so thats me.
Peace,
Ken
January 28, 2009 at 10:33 pm
Great Post – I’m sure there’s even more good stuff to come.
I also wondered, which template is being used on this site? I’d love to know the name of it.