STRANGE 2006 REPORT TO GEITHNER, ‘BORROWING WITHOUT DEBT’

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I was digging around the NY Federal Reserve archives because of Geithner.  Found a really awful report that was given to him.  It said, basically, who gives a hoot about the rising trade and budget deficits?  Our ‘dark matter assets’ would balance our grossly out of balance budget and trade deficits!  I wonder what these mysterious ‘dark matter assets’ were!  I wonder if this is the Derivatives Beast.  They don’t make it very clear, what these things are.   Many things are brewing this week, it is a total witches’ brew of eyes of toads and toes of baboons.

http://www.newyorkfed.org/research/staff_reports/sr271.pdf

Borrowing without Debt? 

Understanding the U.S. International Investment Position 


Matthew Higgins 

Thomas Klitgaard 


Cédric Tille 

Staff Report no. 271 

December 2006 

Abstract

Sustained large U.S. current account deficits have led some economists and policymakers to worry that future current account adjustment could occur through a sudden and disruptive depreciation of the dollar and a sharp drop in U.S. consumption.

No kidding! Back when this report was issued by Geithner’s crew, I was busy at Culture of Life News, yelling about budget and trade deficits! Click here for my oldest issues: Culture of Life News II: March 2005.

 

Today, a lot of the same guys who didn’t see the obvious back in 2005 are all around the neighborhood, shouting, ‘No one could have foreseen this!’ Well, that is a lie. This report is a fine example of how our top experts deliberately refused to understand simple, basic economic realities. And they lied about things, too.

Two factors that, to date, have cast doubt on such concerns are the stability of U.S. net external liabilities and the minimal net income payments made by the United States on these liabilities.

OMG. HAHAHA. This happens to be the Derivatives Beast. Yes, there were very minimum net income on these liabilities! This is why the system collapsed.

We show that the stability of the external position reflects sizable capital gains stemming from strong foreign equity markets and a weaker dollar—conditions that could be reversed in the future.

This was actually the Japanese carry trade at work. The Japanese didn’t do this with yen. They did this with dollars.

We also show that while minimal U.S. net income payments reflect a much higher measured rate of return on U.S. foreign direct investment (FDI) assets than on U.S. FDI liabilities, ongoing borrowing is likely to overwhelm this favorable rate of return, pushing the U.S. net income balance more deeply into deficit.

When this report was drawn up, the mega-trade and budget deficits were just beginning. IN 1990, the US was worried if the trade deficit was over $5 billion a month. By 2005, it began running at well over $50 billion a month! This was utterly ridiculous.

In addition, we review the argument that the United States holds large amounts of intangible assets not captured in the data—assets that would bring the true U.S. net investment position close to balance.

And pray tell, what were these considerable ‘intangible assets’?  Shall we all take exactly one guess?  SAY HELLO TO THE DERIVATIVES BEAST!   These hideous bets were considered to be assets!  Assets!  Isn’t that utterly hilarious?  And now, these stupid assets are rapidly destroying the entire financial systems of the world.

We argue that intangible capital, while a relevant dimension of economic analysis, is unlikely to be substantial enough to alter the U.S. net liability position.

Are they talking about ‘intellectual property’?  That can’t fix anything since it is worth whatever we can squeeze from people which is very little if they are poor and are pirating music, for example.  One of the few good things about ‘free trade’ is the fact that many humans can literally take things for free.  This irritates all the rich people who need to collect ‘rent’ for as long as humanly possible.

 

Also, I note the problem here where the writers talk about ‘assets’ and then, switch to talking about ‘capital’.  They are not one and the same.  At least, not in Marxian analysis.  Capitalization of a system via ‘intangible assets’ is just not possible.  Ever since we chose the floating currency system, we live in this strange upside down world that is all mirrors. Are ‘intangible assets’ the air we breath?  Or is this our education systems?  I wish the writers spent a paragraph, listing these mysterious intangibles.

 

Now, I am always curious about comparing various time frames to see if things change.  And with the US International Reserve position, this can be a weary but amusing pastime.  The Treasury just issued our monthly report.  

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http://www.treasury.gov/press/releases/200932414194221296.htm

 

March 24, 2009
2009-3-24-14-19-42-21296

U.S. International Reserve Position

The Treasury Department today released U.S. reserve assets data for the latest week. As indicated in this table, U.S.reserve assets totaled $76,353 million as of the end of that week, compared to $74,132 million as of the end of the prior week.

I. Official reserve assets and other foreign currency assets (approximate market value, in US millions)

March, 2008 data in red  

December, 1990 in green   LS-1101: U.S. International Reserve Position

 

March 20, 2009

A. Official reserve assets (in US millions unless otherwise specified) 1

Euro

Yen

Total

(1) Foreign currency reserves (in convertible foreign currencies)

 

 

76,353

75,840

66,064

(a) Securities  

9,462

15,732

5,265

13,452

12,289

10,333

22,914

28,021

15,588

of which: issuer headquartered in reporting country but located abroad

 

 

0

(b) total currency and deposits with:

 

 

 

(i) other national central banks, BIS and IMF  

10,828

15,622

8,900

6,578

6,881

6,424

17,406

22,503

15,323

ii) banks headquartered in the reporting country

 

 

0

of which: located abroad

 

 

0

(iii) banks headquartered outside the reporting country

 

 

0

of which: located in the reporting country

 

 

0

(2) IMF reserve position 2

7,843

4,374

13,635

(3) SDRs 2

9,179

9,901

10,472

(4) gold (including gold deposits and, if appropriate, gold swapped) 3

11,041

11,041

11,046

–volume in millions of fine troy ounces  Anyone have any idea, what is going on here?  Look at the numbers, they are totally different from each year!

635261.499

261.499

(5) other reserve assets (specify) Why is this number exactly the same as the ‘other’ three lines below?  Is this the same thing?  A ‘reversal’?  We didn’t do this in 2000 or 2008.

7,970

0

0

–financial derivatives

 

–loans to nonbank nonresidents

 

–other (foreign currency assets invested through reverse repurchase agreements)

7,970

0

0

   


II. Predetermined short-term net drains on foreign currency assets (nominal value)

 

 

Maturity breakdown (residual maturity)

 

Total

Up to 1 month

More than 1 and up to 3 months

More than 3 months and up to 1 year

1. Foreign currency loans, securities, and deposits

 

 

 

 

–outflows (-)

Principal

 

 

 

 

 

Interest

 

 

 

 

–inflows (+)

Principal

 

 

 

 

 

Interest

 

 

 

 

2. Aggregate short and long positions in forwards and futures in foreign currencies vis-à-vis the domestic currency (including the forward leg of currency swaps)

 

 

 

 

(a) Short positions ( – )   IN NO OTHER US RESERVE REPORTS,

ARE THERE ANY SHORT POSITIONS AT ALL!

minus  

 327,728

minus  

 184,946 

 minus

-142,782

 

(b) Long positions (+)

 

 

 

 

3. Other (specify)

 

 

 

 

–outflows related to repos (-)

 

 

 

 

–inflows related to reverse repos (+)

 

 

 

 

–trade credit (-)

 

 

 

 

–trade credit (+)

 

 

 

 

–other accounts payable (-)

 

 

 

 

–other accounts receivable (+)

 

 

 

 

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Before we return to the NY Fed Bank report, let’s also look at some charts: 

 

St. Louis Fed: Series: BOPOIMF, U.S. Reserve Position in the IMF

us-reserve-imf-history

The US reserve position isn’t stable, is it?  In fact, like many of our charts, this one shows how buried beneath the surface of seemingly stable inflation data, lurks some pretty active monsters.  This shows clearly how we had a small spike right when Nixon was forced to dump our gold standard, a very sharp spike in the hyper-inflation era and then, we slid into a deep freeze after 1980, which was a bad recession.  Then, we see a series that looks like a bouncing ball that bounces higher and drops lower, very rapidly, very suddenly, there are no gentle curves like the first half of the chart.  No, the bounces are increasingly violent.  This is a classic sign of instability leading to a collapse.

 

St. Louis Fed: FRED GRAPH

Fred Graph

This graph is a reminder.  It shows the awful mess we are in.  We never, ever, not even with the 9/11 micro-burst of easy money making, did we ever get near even $30 billion.  Now, just this last 5 months, it shot upwards to nearly a trillion dollars!  THIS IS NOT NORMAL.  Nor, sustainable.  And it screams, ‘Instability!’  The NY Fed bank report is all about how things were not really all that unstable and we could go back to snoozing and ignoring reality.

 

http://www.newyorkfed.org/research/staff_reports/sr271.pdf

1. Introduction Years of large current account deficits have left the United State with the world’s largest net liability position. By the end of 2005, net foreign claims on the U.S. amounted to $2.5 trillion, more than 20 percent of U.S. GDP. We added another $3+ trillion since this report. Moreover, the U.S. current account deficit continues to climb higher, both in dollar terms and as a share of U.S. GDP. In 2006, according to the IMF, the U.S. deficit is likely to reach almost $870 billion, some 6.6 percent of GDP, and up from 4.8 percent of in 2003 and just 3.8 percent of GDP as recently as 2001.

After writing this paragraph, did the economists run from the room, screaming for Geithner? Did Geithner then rush to DC to scream at everyone? Did they see how alarming this news was? Things were rapidly getting much, much worse, thanks to the ‘free trade’ ideology. United States. In particular, asset price movements can easily move in the opposite direction and increase rather than decrease U.S. net liabilities.

This report was written right at the top of the US housing bubble.  All seemed well. Yet, this is the same year, I was yelling about this bubble and warning everyone, a real estate bubble pop is the worst one we could have.  For it takes twice as long for an economy to recover from a housing bubble popping.  This would be no mere ‘recession.’

A second development that has worked to the advantage of the United States is that it makes minimal net payments on its net liabilities HAHAHA because the United States earns a substantially higher rate of return on foreign assets than it pays out on foreign liabilities. Some analysts have cited this higher rate of return as evidence that U.S. foreign assets are higher than reported in the official data, reflecting unmeasured holdings of intangible capital in the form of specialized knowledge, management expertise, and brand name value (so called “dark matter” assets).

Ah!  These ‘intangible capital’ things are brand names?  HAHAHA.  Now, utterly worthless.  As for ‘management expertise’…who on earth will want to touch any of our crazy gnomes with a ten foot pole these days?  Our gnome’s knowledge is also not exactly in high repute anymore, either.  Then there are the ‘dark matter’ stuff: again, isn’t this referring to the ‘dark pools’ which is where the Derivatives Beast lives?

However, even generous assumptions as to the scale of intangible foreign assets would still leave the U.S. with a sizeable net foreign liability position. More important for current account adjustment, however, the scale of such intangible assets turns out to have no material implications for future net payments to the rest of the world. In particular, large ongoing current account deficits will steadily increase U.S. net payment over time. Our analysis does not settle whether U.S. current account adjustment will be gradual and benign, as the consensus now expects, or sudden and disruptive, as others argue. According to latest reports, us ‘sudden and disruptive’ people are the ones who called the shots correctly. All the Pollyannas missed this boat by a million miles. It does indicate that any eventual adjustment will be made more difficult by a growing net income deficit. No kidding! Theses trends raise worries about the sustainability of the U.S. external position. After all, continued large current account deficits should result in a growing net international liability position, and growing payments on those liabilities. It’s no surprise, then, that the clear consensus among policymakers and economists is that the U.S. current account deficit will eventually need to narrow, as a percentage of GDP if not in dollar terms. And some argue that the U.S. faces a growing risk that current account adjustment will be sudden and disruptive, with potential consequences of a sharply weaker dollar and a contraction in U.S. consumption.

They all agreed that we need to close the deficit.  But alas, anyone suggesting simple and sane [as well as very ancient] methods of closing this gap, they would be shouted down.  Trying to keep ‘free trade’ and make it even worse, seems to be the only alternative.  Indeed, there are no alternatives.  Aside from whining to our trade rivals as they cheerfully destroyed our industrial base and our financial systems, the brainiacs at the top of our system just sat on their asses.

However, other features of the data don’t quite square with this disquieting view. I wonder how these three economists are dealing with being so utterly, foolishly, stupidly wrong? First, the value of U.S. net external liabilities has been rising less rapidly in recent years than the amount of net financial inflows represented by the country’s current account deficit. Indeed, from the end of 2001 to the end of 2005, U.S. net liabilities rose by little more than $200 billion, despite cumulative current account deficits of more than $2,400 billion over the period. With the U.S. economy growing, this has meant a decline in U.S. net liabilities as a percentage of GDP. Second, the U.S. now bears only a minimal servicing burden on its net liability position. Due to the Japanese carry trade. The account deficits are basically the effects of the Japanese carry trade flooding the US with funny money. Indeed, the $3.4 billion in net payments the U.S. made during the first half of 2006 implies a servicing cost of less than 0.3 percent (annualized) on net liabilities. In previous years, the net income balance was positive.

Interesting, isn’t it, the ‘servicing cost’ for this tremendous build-up of debt happens to be the same rate as the Bank of Japan’s ZIRP rates? Why have large, ongoing current account deficits recently failed to translate into a sizeable buildup in U.S. net liabilities? And how has the U.S. managed to make such small service payments on its large net debt position? Do these facts imply that the U.S. could continue to run large current accounts deficits indefinitely without facing significant economic consequences?

We now know, once the Japanese carry trade collapsed, this wonderful boon of 0.3% lending for wild US debt accumulation ended with a bang.

This report has some very dire graphs that clearly show a nation going right off a very bad cliff:

 

http://www.newyorkfed.org/research/staff_reports/sr271.pdf

us-gross-assets-and-liabilities

Note the differential between assets and liabilities: starting in 1982, it briefly is in our favor.  But after 1990, the differential widens and from 2004-2008, it got tremendously wide.  It behooves us to keep assets and liabilities at least in balance if not, making a profit!

 

http://www.newyorkfed.org/research/staff_reports/sr271.pdf

4. Conclusion

The relative stability of the U.S. external position in recent years would seem to undermine worries about the sustainability of continued large current account deficits. The small minimal income payments on its large measured net debt position would also seem to undermine those worries.

How on earth could they be so smug, after looking at the two charts they put in their own report? This baffles me. A faux sense of stability might fool some clerk or student in school. But anyone digging in to the data could see nothing but red lights flashing and loud alarm bells ringing.

The small recent increase in U.S. net indebtedness owes to capital gains on U.S. foreign assets, both from higher equity prices abroad and the depreciation of the dollar since 2001. Addition valuation changes from a weaker dollar or increases in foreign asset prices are possible, reducing pressure on the current account deficit to narrow. The risks are that these favorable valuation changes stop or are reversed.

The pressure for current account adjustment has also been eased by minimal U.S. income payments due to a higher measure rate of return on U.S. FDI assets than FDI liabilities. On present trends, however, ongoing net borrowing will drag the U.S. net income balance steadily into significant deficit, adding to current account adjustment pressures.

We are now experimenting with hyper-debt. History is very stern about this: it never, ever works. It only destroys. But people hate the lessons History tries to teach us. I wonder why she even bothers.

Some authors have pointed to the higher rate of return on U.S. FDI assets as evidence that the U.S. holds large amounts of intangible assets not captured in the data. On this view, the U.S. net investment position close to balance, eliminating any pressing need for current account adjustment. According to our analysis, however, plausible estimates for U.S. intangible capital imply only a small reduction in U.S. net external liabilities.

Tomorrow, I am doing a video about the wizards.  The three who wrote this report are wizards.  They are as important if not more important, than the gnomes.  I learned a lot about how to use iMovie tonight.  I hope to use this information tomorrow.  We all live and learn!

 

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29 Responses to STRANGE 2006 REPORT TO GEITHNER, ‘BORROWING WITHOUT DEBT’

  1. hardrcok

    Here I go again. Here is what most Americans are really thinking about; “Why should I pay for my own oppression?” This is a snippet from James Quinn’s most recent article which is chock full of information about the topic Elaine is writing about. It is downright scary when looked at in conjunction with the events of history which prove that politicians are terrible at avoiding a crisis and only make things worse by trying to ‘guide’ events. We are on board a ‘ship of fools’.
    EXCERPT:

    “Many Americans who have lived by the rules are angry, frustrated, and appalled at what the government is doing. They feel helpless to change the course of the country. The housing, spending, and debt bubbles will burst completely, no matter what the government does. Following the current path will lead us into the Japanese model of a 25 year downturn, if we’re lucky. When I read many of the responses to my last article about ways to reclaim your life, I was struck that We The People actually hold all the cards. The government is at our mercy. Americans can change the course of the country through passive resistance. American consumer spending makes up 70% of the U.S. economy. No matter how much liquidity the Federal Reserve creates out of thin air, we do not have to spend the money. American citizens pay $1.2 trillion in Federal Income taxes per year. If they decided not to pay these taxes, the empire would come to a grinding halt. American citizens have more control then they know.

    I came across an essay by Henry David Thoreau called Civil Disobedience (Resistance to Civil Government), published in 1849. It argues that people should not permit governments to overrule or atrophy their consciences, and that people have a duty to avoid allowing such acquiescence to enable the government to make them the agents of injustice. The definition of civil disobedience is the active refusal to obey certain laws, demands and commands of a government, without resorting to physical violence.

    “Resistance” also served as part of Thoreau’s metaphor which compared the government to a machine, and said that when the machine was working injustice it was the duty of conscientious citizens to be “a counter friction” – that is, a resistance – “to stop the machine.”

    Disobedience is the true foundation of liberty. The obedient must be slaves.
    Henry David Thoreau

  2. hardrcok

    One thing that must be mentioned over and over is the fact that we are witnessing the collapse of a Marxian, socialistic regime that is being used by the ‘super rich’ elite to enslave the world through the massive debt bubble being allowed to collapse as they position themselves to pick up the pieces and force it into a ‘one world’ currency system which will put an end to all dissent and of course….freedom. This is the real danger we face yet, all we seem to care about is protecting our assets and our comfy lifestyle. We will lose all if we fear losing blood and life. What little effort needed now pales in comparison to the effort that will be needed by our posterity to free themselves from the terrible constraints we will leave them bound.
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    ELAINE: 1. Thoreau’s ‘injustice’ was slavery. He hated that odious institution.
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    2. Socialism has nothing to do with either slavery or debt. Debt predates socialism by about 10,000 years. Not only that, from the very first city states like Ur, the government worked ONLY if it was sufficiently ‘socialist’. Namely, in times of plenty, they collected taxes and in times of stress, they distributed food. Any attempt at running a society with no socialism is DOOMED because the stressed out humans who are starving will overthrow it. Period. History is very clear about this. Only people living deep inside a very protective society can rail against having a protective society. Imagining, foolishly, that they ‘stand alone.’
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    This attitude is very strong in former slave states and the west, two places that suck the Federal teats very hard.

  3. OC

    Elaine,

    Take a close look at Asian Dollar Crisis in 1997 – it will be the same result. The easy lending from overseas drove up the prices in everything and when the money flow suddenly reverse, total collapse in the countries that enjoyed the easy lending practices within weeks. This time, it will be America & Europe’s turn to be torn apart and bought over by…Russia & China. Without any reserves, those countries that borrowed excessively will be toast like Iceland!

    CC, it’s a rerun of the Asian Dollar Crisis except it is global this time!!

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  5. criticalcontrarian

    OC, that looks to be a very good analogy of these events. Funny how the geniuses never learn from history. And this is very recent history, a short 12 years, so what is their excuse? Ahhh, yes, I think it’s, “we’re too big too fail!”. Isn’t that what the Romans said right before they were sacked by the Gauls? and the Visigoths? and the Vandals? and the Arabs, ad infinitum? ;-)

  6. criticalcontrarian

    OC, you were right and here the proof! Mervyn King warns Gordon Brown to stop spending @ http://tinyurl.com/cxwhru

    The Governor of the Bank of England laid bare tensions between Gordon Brown and the Treasury yesterday by warning that Britain could not afford a second economic stimulus in the Budget.
    :
    Mervyn King threw caution to the wind as he sided with Alistair Darling and the CBI against Downing Street in raising strong doubts over any prospect of another round of “significant fiscal expansion” next month.

    At least this Brit knows when to stop the bullshit.

  7. criticalcontrarian

    More on that story here: http://tinyurl.com/dep6vt

    The Governor of the Bank of England stunned Downing Street yesterday by warning against a giveaway Budget next month. Mervyn King said public finance deficits were too high for big tax cuts or bumper spending increases on April 22. The extraordinary warning to Gordon Brown not to blow billions on a second ‘fiscal stimulus’ came perilously close to breaching the convention that the head of the Bank does not question Government policy.

    Compounding No. 10′s woes, Mr King agreed with MPs who complained that banks were failing to pass on the benefits of public bailouts to borrowers, despite signing agreements to do so. The governor said: ‘I totally share that concern’, but added that we were only just reaching the point where the impact of those agreements would start to be felt. Later the Queen held an audience with the governor of the Bank of England for the first time in her reign.

    Right about now maybe Americans are starting to wish they had a King and a Queen?

  8. criticalcontrarian

    And here a Gnomette in a Senator’s bedroom: Dodd’s Wife a Former Director of Bermuda-Based IPC Holdings, an AIG Controlled Company @ http://tinyurl.com/d86akd

    Does the man understand the meaning of conflict of interest?

  9. Simon

    This anti-factual rebound is so cool
    I get to unload all the banking stocks
    and also do it for all my relatives too :)

  10. if

    Finance crisis ‘could lead to war’, IMF warns
    …’Bluntly the situation is dire. All this will affect dramatically unemployment and beyond unemployment for many countries it will be at the roots of social unrest, some threat to democracy, and maybe for some cases it can also end in war.’
    http://tinyurl.com/cdxc5s
    So all this gnome-bailout-rescue smoke&mirror show is not about saving the economy but buying time, give the gnome-rats a chance to leave the sinking ship and flee to some pirete island, hide in a cave with all the stolen treasures and after the storm they can crawl out and take over what´s left of the world?

  11. Swindler

    How do we get this maestra to a TV network to explain the flaws in all these bailouts? I have listened to many tv,radio talk shows but most seem to tow the administration line, while this board explains things very differently. Anything we can do to spread it more main stream?

  12. Simon

    It’s gonna lead to war once those holding the sharp end of CDSs realize they’ve been had.
    All the good market news come out at once, why?
    To get out, pure and simple

  13. if

    Russian President Dmitry Medvedev will visit Germany on March 31 to discuss the current global economic crisis with Chancellor Angela Merkel ahead of a G20 summit, the Kremlin said on Wednesday.

    “The talks in Berlin will focus on the global financial and economic crisis in the context of the upcoming Group of 20 summit in London,” the Kremlin said, adding that the leaders would also discuss bilateral ties.

    The G20 summit, involving developed and emerging economies and international financial institutions, will take place on April 2 to try to find ways to overcome the ongoing crisis.

    Russia has submitted a proposal to the summit for the IMF to consider creating a supra-national reserve currency, a move that was supported by China, but dismissed by U.S. President Barack Obama as unnecessary.

    Russia has also put forward suggestions on how international financial organizations should be reformed in the wake of the crisis, including steps to ensure the diversification of countries’ foreign currency reserves to reduce the emphasis on the dollar.
    http://tinyurl.com/calxhq

  14. criticalcontrarian

    Simon: Go for it while the going is good. But keep your finger on the trigger for a quick exit when it gets antsy. :-)

  15. Simon

    The suggestion is just a test to see Obama’s reactions, no one expects US to lose reserve status over words alone. Plus the idea “supranational SDR” is just a joke since if they really want to force his hand, they can say RMB.
    Dead cat bounce anyone? We are only through AIG, plenty of juicy stories in the works.

  16. nah

    totally if you books look so good why is your income screwed… where is the money if not in ‘dark matter’ we will backstop government debt with private patents when the government owns our souls???
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RpbWShNlb8
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    Japanese robot fantasy will save us ‘or at least me’

  17. nah

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/7960564.stm
    Building society ‘must not fail’
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    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aXhfl.k1.aQM&refer=home
    Fed to Start Purchasing Treasuries to Unfreeze Credit
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    its not illiquid as long as its still freezin’

  18. nah

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantasy_Star_II
    Somewhere deep within the Andromeda Galaxy lies the Algol Star System.

  19. DrKrbyLuv

    Daniel Hannan MEP: The devalued Prime Minister of a devalued Government
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    The NWO banking bastards have Gordon Brown and Obama doing the same things – willfully destroying their respective countries economies. This is high treason pure and simple. We all see it, they know we see it, but yet it continues.
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    The Federal Reserve & other central banks, are hatching their plan for world domination.
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    Larry

  20. nah

    http://www.bizjournals.com/sacramento/stories/2009/03/23/daily36.html
    FedEx threatens to cancel airplane order
    .
    the government has subsidized the economy so much over the last 20 years that for every dollar they subsidize they waste 2 dollars… but if they dont subsidize they become illiquid themselves… while every asset they own siezes up because its tied to government bureaucracy ‘thats alot of strings attached’… without tax loopholes, stuipd laws, black finantial boxes, and hedge funds the broad market will collapse because prices are being set HIGH to be paid for with inflation and subsidies… which brings us back to my earlier point… that this is not a capitalist system of finance/industry… its a poor mans way of making someone rich whos not really worth it

  21. criticalcontrarian

    Larry, ask yourself why Hezbollah, al Qaeda, Hamas, Abu Nidal, IRA, Bader Meinhoff, Red Brigades, and all the “terrorist” jokes don’t go after the NWO people? If you and I know who they are, and even where they live, then why not these groups who have huge bank accounts, warm bodies and mad bombers willing to die, why do they ignore the “real problems”? Makes you think doesn’t it? ;-)
    ΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩ

    ELAINE: Bin Laden loved Bush and urged us to vote for him.

  22. Angry Bill

    Deride the French all you want but the new tactic there is to lock the managers in their offices until their voices are heard. What a great concept, why can’t we do this here and add politicians to the mix? If they can’t make their cocktail parties, just maybe they’ll do something for the citizens of this once great country so as to hobknob with the criminals whose donations poison our society.

  23. MikeM

    Yes, this likely will all lead to war. Those who wish to hold power over the people are very concerned that we will take matters into our own hands before their plans are executed.
    :
    Excellent post Hardrock! And here is a recurring news story, rehashed in this morning’s San Diego Union: http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2009/mar/25/1n25guns011211-guns-flow-south-border/?zIndex=72236
    :
    “Looser laws” or not, it is criminal to purchase guns for illegal export, and one cannot purchase any gun without proper identification in any state.
    :
    Does anyone consider tracking down the perpetrators, and arresting them? OF COURSE NOT! The point is, our government/media outlets want NOBODY to own guns, since we’re likely to use them to protect our rights (against them).
    :
    Anecdotally, ammunition shortages are growing acute, with the gun-owning population frantically stockpiling. The frenzy to buy ammo at last weekend’s gun show was simply amazing. Attendance appeared to be up well over 500%. It’s like watching grocery store shelves empty ahead of a hurricane!
    :
    We The People will have a difficult time explaining to the Chinese, Japanese, Russians, etc… that our 535 elected imbeciles and their banking accomplices are responsible for this debt, and not us common folks.

  24. if

    cc, excellent observation! Could these “terrorist” be on the “pay-roll”?

  25. Gary

    “Vat is matta mit you shtinkas ? Vhy you shtill demonize mein name ? I yam
    nice guy. I just made observations datz all. All I did vas try to undershtand der Capitalist system and how overproduction and under payment
    of incomes vould lead to shpeculations und bubbles. Ha Ha. Und now I am
    Great Satan. Ha ha. Hell is a funny place. Ha ha. From my window I can
    look down on City of London und Library. All I can see is lots of financial
    veesals shouting mein name in terror ! Ha ha. My former shtudents der Comrades of Communism in China and Russia are now Capitalists und you shtinkas are der Commies. Ha ha. Bye for now, ys, Karl M.

  26. criticalcontrarian

    if: the probability of these organizations being cutouts for false flag ops of the major intelligence agencies is highly likely. They sure as hell don’t look like they are working for the causes they pretend too.
    ΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩ
    ELAINE: au contraire! The CIA and others try to use the anger of others but this BACKFIRES on them. Remember: bin Laden’s strategy is to drag the US into hopeless and expensive wars in Central Asia until the US goes bankrupt. And…the US is going bankrupt. The plans of the ruling elites is NOT to bankrupt the US.

    But they are doing it because they are insane jerks who are screwing up everything because they are greedy gnomes who need sex with beautiful women. It is pretty simple.

  27. @if – so the gnomes think they can take their ill-gotten wealth and hide in a cave til WWIII blows over? They’ll have only a radioactive cinder after that. And old saying comes to mind: be careful what you ask for; you just might get it. In this case, the gnomes ought to be REAL careful.

  28. if

    cc, you got me to turn to Sun Tzu: “All things have their function – it´s a matter of use in the appropiate situation.”
    bestrgrds

  29. criticalcontrarian

    if: Sun-Tzu was a visionary way before his time, a very focused mind that one. Lot’s of intellectual capital in his readings, I go back to him when I need to get back to basics. Here an apt quote for this conversation: “Be extremely subtle, even to the point of formlessness. Be extremely mysterious, even to the point of soundlessness. Thereby you can be the director of the opponent’s fate.”

    And my favorite: “For to win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill.” ~ this has been the mantra of China when dealing with the USA.

    ELAINE: All intel agencies ARE controlled by the elite which is why they aren’t very intelligent, they never get to follow the course of action they intelligently know to do because the final decisions are made by, to borrow from dear Bear, MORANS! ;-)

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