The Big Bang Banana

Lady Luck and the infinite monkeysOne of my favorite topics is the subject of Lady Luck and Her relationship to Mother Nature.  Today, the NYT runs an article about how the Large hadron Collider may be re-enacting the relationship between these two ancient titanic forces and that this may be preventing the collider from functioning.  I would suggest that this is simply a case of biting off more than one can technically chew.

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Essay – The Collider, the Particle and a Theory About Fate – NYTimes.com

More than a year after an explosion of sparks, soot and frigid helium shut it down, the world’s biggest and most expensive physics experiment, known as the Large Hadron Collider, is poised to start up again. In December, if all goes well, protons will start smashing together in an underground racetrack outside Geneva in a search for forces and particles that reigned during the first trillionth of a second of the Big Bang.

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Then it will be time to test one of the most bizarre and revolutionary theories in science. I’m not talking about extra dimensions of space-time, dark matter or even black holes that eat the Earth. No, I’m talking about the notion that the troubled collider is being sabotaged by its own future. A pair of otherwise distinguished physicists have suggested that the hypothesized Higgs boson, which physicists hope to produce with the collider, might be so abhorrent to nature that its creation would ripple backward through time and stop the collider before it could make one, like a time traveler who goes back in time to kill his grandfather….

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This is actually rather funny.  Humans love thinking backwards. This is because it is easy as well as magical.  All humans are caught up in magical thinking: this is the way our brains are hardwired. This is why any scientific systems that use physical proof as its basis is so very difficult to do. That is, we don’t naturally wish or want to think really logically.

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We want to do the exact opposite.  So we have to have elaborate rules and many years of training to avoid jumping to conclusions or magical thinking.  When we are peering into the mysteries as to how the universe was created, the tendency to think magically is very great and has to be fought off.

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This is even more important when looking at ultimate paradoxes: if one is trained as a logical thinker, the idea that there can be paradoxes is hard to accept. All scientists want to crack paradoxical nuts and get to the meat inside.  They hate the entire business of paradoxes.

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….“It must be our prediction that all Higgs producing machines shall have bad luck,” Dr. Nielsen said in an e-mail message. In an unpublished essay, Dr. Nielson said of the theory, “Well, one could even almost say that we have a model for God.” It is their guess, he went on, “that He rather hates Higgs particles, and attempts to avoid them.”

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Mother Nature is feminine, not masculine. Ahem. Heh. Of course, the modern post-Pisces gods are either humans elevated to god status or are male gods who have very bad tempers and want to kill all living things. Which happens to be the antithesis to Mother Nature which is about expanding, growing and living.

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Mother Nature has rules and laws, not ‘will power’.  She doesn’t sit down and laboriously rig up systems or create anything.  She is the embodiment of rules and laws.  Human ‘gods’ are supposed to create things and in the biggest case of creation, are supposed to create universes.  One of the greatest forces if not the greatest force in nature happens to be ‘random chance’.

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This is not the realm of Mother Nature but of her eldritch sister, Lady Luck.  Mother Nature didn’t exist before the Big Bang.  But Lady Luck did exist.  More about that in a moment.

. This malign influence from the future, they argue, could explain why the United States Superconducting Supercollider, also designed to find the Higgs, was canceled in 1993 after billions of dollars had already been spent, an event so unlikely that Dr. Nielsen calls it an “anti-miracle.”…

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HAHAHA.  Unfortunately, I remember the Super Collider debate.  Texas was supposed to get it so it became very unpopular for other Senators to fund it.  That is, the born again Christians who proliferate like frogs after a summer storm in Texas hated the idea of a super collider while the universities in California and the Northeast lost enthusiasm for this project when it was being parked down in Texas.

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So it died a political death.  There was one more very magical element here: Congress was on the verge of being taken over by the GOP who hated Clinton and wanted to cut spending so they cut here, there and everywhere. They were anti-spending so long as a Democrat was President.  I don’t find this process very miraculous: this is normal in the US.

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….Dr. Nielsen and Dr. Ninomiya have proposed a kind of test: that CERN engage in a game of chance, a “card-drawing” exercise using perhaps a random-number generator, in order to discern bad luck from the future. If the outcome was sufficiently unlikely, say drawing the one spade in a deck with 100 million hearts, the machine would either not run at all, or only at low energies unlikely to find the Higgs….

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Long, long ago, I wrote a story about all this.  It came to me in a dream.

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Once upon a time, about 13 billion years ago, there was no time, no space, and certainly, no universe. There was nothing at all.  This place of total nothingness existed in a non-timeframe we call ‘eternity’.  Eternity is also infinity and there are no boundaries at all, it is a very boring place since nothing happens forever.

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This dreary state of affairs is where Lady Luck lives.  Actually, since there is nothing physical or real, the only thing that can exist is a fantasy place that is very, very magical: the Lady Luck Gambling Casino of Random Chance.  This is a theoretical place where there are only numbers and calculations that run to infinity.

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At first, for a few eons of nothingness, Lady Luck had no form or shape.  But this was intensely boring for random choices so She materialized into a Being.  Existing in the matrix of nothingness was still quite boring so She accidentally created a concept: having no sense of future or past, She realized that if an infinite number of monkeys were to type randomly, over the course of eternity, they could write a Shakespeare play accidentally.

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So She conjured up an immense chamber filled with endless monkeys all of whom had their own typewriters.  She commanded them to begin randomly typing and then departed to go wander about infinity, examining all random chance numbers to see if anything interesting would happen with them.

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Non-time passed for unknown lengths that couldn’t be measured.  Suddenly, Lady Luck remembered She created this monkey system of random typing and was very curious as to see if they reached their goal.  So She went to the infinite chamber of many monkeys typing away.

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It was quite a din!  Covering Her ears, She yelled, ‘Stop!  Stop!  Now tell me if you have written a Shakespeare play!’

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She could see that the whole place was littered with bananas and was very slippery.  Carefully picking Her way through the mess, she approached one of the oldest monkeys.  It grinned at Her and pointed to a mountain of manuscripts.  She took one folio from the pile.

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‘This is “Hamlet” in Finno-uric script!’ She said.  Then She rapidly flipped through several more folios from the pile.  It was various plays like ‘Macbeth’ or ‘Julius Caesar’ written in every possible language that will ever be created by humans.  ’Oh no!’ She cried, ‘You have created a perfect paradox!’  That is, they were able to use magical typewriters to write future plays in future languages even those languages that would probably exist before Shakespeare could exist.

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‘This is impossible!’ Lady Luck said in disgust.  She was so angry, She decided to destroy the infinite monkeys and their annoying, noisy typewriters.  So She blew it all up.

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And this explosion was so huge, it became known as the Big Bang.  Or to the monkeys on earth, the Big Banana.

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33 Responses to The Big Bang Banana

  1. JSmith

    Dr. Neilsen is kidding, of course. The LHC is an enormous, enormously complex machine that will require a lot of debugging before it’s working properly.

    That term “debugging” should suffice to remind us that computer didn’t work all that well at first, either. Even now, there’s the occasional glitch.

    However… thanks to the Internet, we now know that the Monkey’s Shakespeare hypothesis is false.

  2. Happy Birthday, Elaine!

  3. JSmith

    Hey – you’re right!

    HAPPY BIRTHDAY ELAINE!!!

  4. Matheus

    Happy Birthday, Elaine!

    And it´s the thunder that stirs the universe…

  5. JSmith

    More on the Infinite Monkey Theorem – just because it’s interesting.

  6. Angela

    Elaine, Happy Birthday!! Many of my nearest and dearest are born this week – tomorrow and the 16th and the 17th. I will add you to the list of favorite people born this perfect October week. Your mountain must be putting on a magnificent show for you in celebration!

  7. emsnews

    So far, I spent the day digging out two enormous fruit trees that were over 150 years old. The hole is bigger than the black hole at the center of our galaxy. Or so it seemed.

    Certainly, every time I climbed into it do hook up chains to the roots, it was hard to get back out again.

    Sort of like our trade deficit. :)

  8. Joseppi

    Happy Birthday and may you plant two more fruit trees to replace the old ones as gifts to yourself.

  9. PLovering

    Woooooops! Normal flu jabs ‘double risk of catching swine flu” ………

    And a Happy Birthday to you.

    http://tinyurl.com/yzzbb85

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    ELAINE: That is the Canadian story from a month ago. And so far, no other researchers have drawn the same conclusions.

  10. Hmm, your dream resembles my view that the universe is a boundary condition between existence and nothingness [hence is chaotic like all boundaries]. And this universe is bent on producing all [infinite?] possibilities.
    But we know nuttin..

  11. PLovering

    German Army rejects swine flu vaccine.

    http://tinyurl.com/yzzbb85

  12. PLovering

    “Vaccine A” author, Gary Matsumoto, hosts the informed consent web site.

    The wonders of vaccine adjuvant “squalene” are detailed in depth, plus Nuremberg Code and legal issues.

    http://www.without-consent.com/

  13. justiceatsqualor

    Happy Birthday

  14. PLovering

    “Flu vaccines revealed as the greatest quackery ever pushed in the history of medicine”

    http://www.naturalnews.com/index.html

  15. petronorway

    Well I’ll jump on the bandwagon as well. Happy Birthday… Loved the monkeys BTW!

  16. larry, dfh

    Happy B-day!

  17. Jimmy

    Is Dr. Nielsen kidding? Perhaps.

    I wonder why no one is willing to take his test seriously. What does anyone have to lose? The degree of ridicule this idea is facing suggests to me how delusional the average person is not how magical Dr. Nielsen’s thinking is.

    What are the odds of the existence of a device capable of finding the Higgs boson- the culmination of 6 billion sentient individuals in corporate effort over 1000s of years of civilization, following tens of billions of years of physical processes (at least)? Ridiculously remote methinks!

    Pull the card, stranger things have already happened.

  18. My reply was much to serious, that was a very funny dream, your present to us, thank you.

  19. nah

    I guess if its your birthday shweet… i cant see how but shweet anyways
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    they shut down a school in this here town for all the kids being holed up sick at home
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    just a chance opportunity for every school hatin’ 8yr old begging to live
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    infinity exists all at once to varying degrees all around us rite now and the product of observation is called consciousness which in its self is a overwhelmed position of nothingness being precisely fixed on ‘knowing’
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    if i had a monkey for every time i cared could be some monkey of mine would care even more than me
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    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-181259944046452879&q=iluminati&total=111&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=4
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    Dr. Frankenshtien

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    ELAINE: We are not inside infinity. We are trapped inside of a space/time continuum called ‘reality’. Infinity is everything OUTSIDE of this ball we call ‘the Universe’. Even if we try to leave this Universe, all we do is carry the contagion of time with ourselves so we can’t escape it via travel. Not even time travel.

  20. nah

    http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE59D0BR20091014
    Modern man a wimp says anthropologist
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    “We can tell that T8 is accelerating toward the end of his tracks.”
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    looks like the best beastliness of man is buried under the empty souls of wandering over educated citizens around the world

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    ELAINE: I though modern man is a geek! On the other hand, some people are gnomes. As we all know here.

  21. Sky

    CK, I simply don’t have the words to describe Ouspensky’s books and what they reveal. They’re more than a read or a furtherment of knowledge -they’re an experience.

    We’re living in the dark ages, and we ARE surrounded by barbarism . I’ve always had a short fuse when it comes to stupidity, lies, spin, disinfo and that’s about all we’re fed on a daily basis. I’m a truth seeker and as such, I cherish Peter Ouspensky.

    From ” A New Model of the Universe ” :

    ” Man lives in the satisfaction of his appetites, in fears, in struggle, in vanity, in distraction and amusements, in stupid sports, in games of skill and chance, in greed of gain, in sensuality, in dull daily work, in cares and anxieties of the day , and more than anything else in obedience and in the enjoyment of obedience, because there is nothing that the average man likes better than to obey ; if he ceases to obey one force he immediately begins to obey another. He is infinitely remote from anything that is not connected directly with the interests of the day or with the worries of the day , from anything which is a little above the material level of his life. If we do not shut our eyes to all this, we shall realize that we cannot, at the best, call ourselves anything but civilized barbarians, that is barbarians possessed of a certain degree of culture.

    The civilization of our time is a pale sickly growth, which can hardly keep itself alive in the darkness of profound barbarism. ”

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    ELAINE: A sign that someone is suffering from religious dogma or illusions of powerful thinking is when they believe they know all the Truth and it is absolute and there are no paradoxes or any flaws in a Grand Scheme of Things.

  22. Sky

    Sorry everyone.

    The post to CK was meant for a different thread.

  23. nah


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    good stuff if you got money left to spend if the depression hasnt nearly buried you…
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    obedience and in the enjoyment of obedience, because there is nothing that the average man likes better than to obey if he ceases to obey
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    i find people like change even tho it eludes them… the contest is nearly overwhelming polarizing a mans exposure to a idea he is ‘less’ independent from… people are nearly totally full of shit to the point they fall over themselves to endorse shit
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    doesnt mean time is cheap, its just the way things are

  24. ”Man lives in the satisfaction of his appetites, in fears, in struggle, in vanity, in distraction and amusements, in stupid sports, in games of skill and chance, in greed of gain, in sensuality, in dull daily work, in cares and anxieties of the day ”

    Sounds like fun i should try it!

  25. emsnews

    Ziff, that is the old ‘eat, drink and be merry’ stuff we laugh about but love to do. :)

  26. JSmith

    “Modern man a wimp says anthropologist”

    From the link: “Delving into a wide range of source material McAllister finds evidence he believes proves that modern man is inferior to his predecessors in, among other fields, the basic Olympic athletics disciplines of running and jumping.”

    But superior to his predecessors in, among other fields, solving differential equations.

    So there!

  27. emsnews

    When we were still monkeys, we were GREAT tree climbers.

  28. PLovering

    @nah, I’ll see your picture and raise you one.

    Lizard’s idea of a successful vaccine program.

    http://tinyurl.com/yguj6t3

  29. IndianaJohn

    Elaine, — I wish many dreams to you, mostly profound,but a few mundane dreams too so that you are not overwhelmed.

    Oh yes, about them bananas;
    http://www.thunderbolts.info/thunderblogs/thornhill.htm

  30. PLovering

    @IndianaJohn, “In essence, everything hinges on the question of whether or not electricity exists in space. The mainstream view is that it does not; we argue that it does. Everything else flows from that.”

    I never heard that argument.

    And I doubt the MSV is that stupid.

    Nice photography.

  31. emsnews

    The electricity in space thing is very mono-minded. It doesn’t matter what the topic is, the solution is always the same old story.

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