Praying To Gods To Save Us From Our Own Oil Disasters

ΩΩThe Southern right wing GOP politicians want us to pray to a god to save us from our own oil follies.  This mess was caused 100% by human greed and rampant stupidity at the very top of the human control pyramid.  Of course, the guys responsible are sailing away in their regattas to happy happy lands where lollipop trees grow and monsters can’t escape from under their beds.  But the oil executives, like the bankers, are the monsters.  

ΩΩI finally have some leisure time to restart making cartoons.  Taking people to doctors all the time ate up a lot of my free time when placed on top of my already large workload, building roads or repairing people’s houses.  The attitude people have towards the gods and goddesses bemuse me.  Scratch any religion under the skin and you find a desire to control the forces of nature via magic.  This desire is extremely powerful in all humans and we adore the idea, we can use our mental powers to defeat natural forces and create ‘miracles’ which enable us to exploit or defy nature including that all-powerful and totally annihilating force of nature called ‘death’.

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ΩΩNothing in the physical world has existed forever or will exist forever in the future.  We are all transient things.  This harsh fact causes most human brains to explode in agony.  For the one thing we wish is eternal life and of course, to do this in the Garden of Eden.

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Louisiana lawmakers propose prayer to stop oil disaster – CNN.com

State senators designated Sunday as a day for citizens to ask for God’s help dealing with the oil disaster.

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“Thus far efforts made by mortals to try to solve the crisis have been to no avail,” state Sen. Robert Adley said in a statement released after last week’s unanimous vote for the day of prayer. “It is clearly time for a miracle for us.”

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The resolution names Sunday as a statewide day of prayer in Louisiana and calls on people of all religions throughout the Gulf Coast “to pray for an end to this environmental emergency, sparing us all from the destruction of both culture and livelihood.”

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ΩΩWhen we pray to the ‘gods’ we are actually looking in a mirror.  The word ‘miracle’ comes from the same root word as ‘mirror’.  What we want is to be as greedy, silly and stupid as possible and then, when things fall apart and we end up deep inside the Cave of Wealth and Death, we want to exit, fast, and re-enter Nature in all Her Bloody Glory.  That is, Nature is half life and half death.  One cannot exist without the other and they each take turn in their own cycle of being, that is, life leads inevitably to death and in death, Nature is replenished and growth can continue.

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ΩΩNature abhors a hockey stick graph.  Anything that does this, dies.  Infinity is not allowed for anything, that is, nothing can grow to infinity except for one thing: numbers.  Yes, the intellectual idea of turning nature into this queer mental exercise can go to infinity but it is dangerous to do it even intellectually with numbers.  What we have is the philosophical concept that numbers go to infinity.  It is impossible for us to prove this fact by doing it, it would literally take forever to run any number calculation to infinity so we take shortcuts and simply think it can possibly do this.

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ΩΩOil is death.  It is not ‘abiotic’.  That idea that pops up over and over again via various wishful and willful twisting of geological and organic facts is a very stupid idea.  Proof that oil isn’t abiotic is simple: the first asteroid to hit us would have blow the earth to smithereens like that missing planet between Jupiter and Mars.  Instead, the earth was viciously pounded by asteroids (most likely, since this happened millions of years after the earth was formed from the chaos around the sun star, these asteroids came from the missing planet’s destruction) and it simply increased its mass.  Some of these asteroids nearly destroyed the moon and laid waste to much of Mars.

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ΩΩLucky for us, oil is biotic and thus, very limited.  Unlimited oil would be a complete catastrophe.  Even limited oil is quite destructive.  The La Brea tar pits of California swallowed up huge animals and I assume these sorts of pits existed for many millions of years at various places and huge dinosaurs were sucked into them, too.  Fortunately for life on earth, these pits were few and far between.  Not whole ocean basis covered with oil.

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ΩΩIf all the oceans were covered with oil, we wouldn’t exist.  We would have never evolved, this would have been a dead planet.  The Hubbert Oil Peak is a wonderful thing.  It will save us from ourselves.  As we see so clearly this summer.

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FASTSTATS – Leading Causes of Death

  1. Heart disease: 631,636
  2. Cancer: 559,888
  3. Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 137,119
  4. Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 124,583
  5. Accidents (unintentional injuries): 121,599
  6. Diabetes: 72,449

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ΩΩAt least if not more than half of the fatalities (not just injuries which mostly happen at home) due to accidents are auto-related.  The heart disease and diabetes deaths are made much more likely due to having cars cart us around in lazy luxury.  Cancer is definitely very related to environmental degradation including past nuclear bomb testing and nuclear plant meltdowns and very much, our chemical and petroleum production pollution.

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Should you worry about burning the oil spill?

As cleanup workers burn off oil from BP’s ruined Deepwater Horizon well, the black clouds of smoke soaring skyward are carrying questions about health risks, along with a thick helping of soot, volatile gases and other toxic byproducts.

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The most immediate risk is to cleanup workers or others in proximity to the burn, according to Dr. Phil Harber, head of the division of Occupational and Environmental Medicine at the David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA.

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However, depending on the eventual scope of the burn, and length of the cleanup effort, others on shore could be affected, says Harber. “People with asthma, or who are very young, or who have cardiac disease,  are much more likely to be sensitive the released pollutants.”

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ΩΩOf course, burning raw oil is very unhealthy. The oil spill is killing many animals.  It will kill humans.  We wanted infinite oil and the gods or goddesses granted our wish.  As I stated in the past, the entrance to the mythological Cave of Wealth and Death says, ‘Wish upon a star and all dreams will come true.’  Of course, people rush in and wish for stupid things which are deadly.  Including eternal life (my definition of hell is to live forever).  What happens is, even if we use all possible systems to stay alive forever, the grind of all of this destroys us and we end up bitterly wishing for death.  There are many bodies of former despots which end up lying tied up to tubes like Sharon of Israel, living in the twilight world of a coma for years and years and only after terrible waits, Death finally comes silently into the room and sweeps away the wreckage.  I have standing orders to my children to never do this to  me.

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ΩΩHumans as well as sea animals and birds have already died due to this oil catastrophe and many more will die over the years as its toxins spread throughout the ecosystems.  The same Southern GOP politicians who want to pray to some wayward god to save them from the oil also want this same god they petition to also give them infinite oil to consume.  The fact that the Deep South is also one of the most obese places on earth is not a passing accident, it is inherent in their culture which they are praying to the gods, to save.  Texas, for example, is one of the fattest places on earth.

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GOP Leaders Threatened To Strip Barton’s Seniority For BP Apology

“Barton met with Boehner and Cantor this afternoon. He was told, ‘Apologize, immediately. Or you will lose your position, immediately. Now that he has apologized, we’ll see what happens going forward,” said the leadership aide.

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“He was concerned about explaining his point that the White House doesn’t necessarily have the authority to do what they did. But, when you start out by apologizing to BP, you’ve lost your audience,” said a second aide, “especially when they agreed to the fund willingly and when our Members are on record supporting the fund.”

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ΩΩBoehner is a very oily Texan GOP guy.  He reflexively did the usual mad dog lunge attack on critics of wildcat oil drilling.  This scared the pants off of the very oily politicians in the GOP which imposed not one but two oilmen on us for 8 years, men who basically bankrupted our nation.  The Democrats are also soaked in oil bribes but are more cautious about showing this in public.  But Obama was advised to allow deep sea oil drilling because this would bring more money to the DNC so he did.  Boom.  It blew up in his face and his curious silence and then lackluster attitude since then tells us clearly where his priorities lie.

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ΩΩThe Democrats have been howling about global warming.  I say, at this rate, as we pursue oil all over kingdom come, we won’t have to worry about the heat, we can all die from oil polluting out waters long before then!  This is why I am against a CO2 derivatives market and very much for requiring alternative energy via nationalist pushes to build this just as the nation built the Eisenhower highway system.  That is, a direct tax on oil which goes only into building alternative energy systems.

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BP oil spill caused by ‘negligence or misconduct’, says drilling partner Anadarko | Environment | guardian.co.uk

BP has come under further pressure after one of its partners said the oil giant should foot the entire bill for the damage caused by the Gulf of Mexico spill.  Anadarko Petroleum, which owns a quarter of the ruptured Deepwater Horizon well, refused to accept any blame for the explosion that killed 11 workers and led to the US’s worst environmental disaster.

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The company’s chairman and chief executive, Jim Hackett, said in a statement BP’s actions probably amounted to “gross negligence or wilful misconduct”.  BP’s chief executive Tony Hayward, who was grilled about the disaster by Congress for seven hours on Thursday, said he “strongly disagreed” with the allegation and expected the firm’s partners to “live up to their obligations”.

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ΩΩWho was in charge?  The mania for outsourcing and offshoring things is also a run away from responsibility.  The corporate entity wishes to be anonymous as well as infinite.  To be able to rise above all regulations and laws is the goal and the closer to the goal corporations get, the more destructive they are and they end up dead eventually due entirely to being totally out of control.  This is why, unlike libertarians, I am 100% for strict regulations of ALL systems.  This is life and death.

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ΩΩBP cannot possibly ‘live up to their obligations’ because they opened up a wound in the earth that is now bleeding a poison and fixing this so things are ‘better than ever’ as the ever-wishful and totally irresponsible Obama said.  That is not possible.  We have to live with the catastrophe and this will take geological time scales to bring back into ‘better than before’.  That is, we need a major phase of planetary time to literally bury this mess in more silt which filters out, bit by bit, over the eons, all the oil.

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ΩΩHere is a previous story from my older blog: Indonesia | Mud

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This is certainly interesting. Water or mud isn’t hot for no reason, like all hot springs, water is heated by the earth’s mantle and we are talking about hot lava here. It appears to me that the gas the drillers were hoping to find were probably caused by

volcanic-type conditions, not decaying plants from millions of years ago.

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This part of the earth has been significantly re-arranged recently and it doesn’t surprise me to see the mud and water under tremendous pressure, erupting out of the ground when disturbed. Also, when the underwater rifts change position, a lot of water gets gulped down into the earth. There are many factors at work here and they point to some very unsettled times ahead.

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Three days ago, the roof of the biggest buildings in the inundated town were visible. Today’s photos show them barely peeking out of the muck. The mud also appears to be a very fine grit like porcelain. If one goes to the river running in the valley below my farm, poking around where the springs pop up in springtime, one finds a lot of this sort of fine, grey mud. It bubbles out of the ground just like this mud in Indonesia only it isn’t hot at all.

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ΩΩI remember when this happened.  They were exploring for natural gas.  There was this earthquake, not surprise in Indonesia which is, outside of the frontal edge of the Australian plate, one of the most earthquake/volcanic prone regions of this planet earth.  Well, the drilling corporation is very powerful and runs the government of Indonesia and has escaped all responsibility of this mess and has not paid the people who lost their homes due to this mess.

Buncefield fire: Oil storage firm found guilty of safety breaches | UK news | The Guardian

A company controlled by Total and Chevron has been found guilty of host of grave safety failures that led to the Buncefield oil depot explosion and the largest fire in peacetime Europe.

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Hertfordshire Oil Storage Limited (HOSL), which was owned by the oil conglomerates, was found guilty of failing to prevent major accidents and limit their effects, it was revealedtoday….

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…The Buncefield blast on 11 December 2005 had a magnitude of 2.4 and the subsequent plume which drifted across Europe was visible from space. The destruction at the depot came after a huge vapour cloud ignited when 250,000 litres of petrol leaked from one of its tanks.

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The explosion injured 43 people, destroyed homes and businesses and could be heard 125 miles away. Prosecutors said it was miraculous that there were no fatalities, a fact largely attributed to the accident happening early on a Sunday. The jury of 11 men and one woman were told that the environmental damage caused was still not known…

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“Supervisors didn’t get much help or protection in what they did. They didn’t get any risk assessments worth their name – pretty essential you might think – how the tanks should be filled, how they should be emptied, what happens with all these considerations,” he said.

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…Training manuals were found to be out of date and there was found to be a “degree of fatigue” among the supervisors tasked with keeping the depot safe. Contracts with companies who worked onsite were found to be insufficiently clear, with contractors unsure of lines of responsibly.

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ΩΩThe British are going to punish these oil guys.  Yet, do not want to deal forthrightly with the BP criminals.  BP has been a semi-criminal or outright criminal since its imperial conception.  Since imperialists don’t worry a wart about the natives they exploit or kill, BP got used to being arrogant, stupid and vicious.  As are all international oil corporations operating under the aegis of the US/UK imperialists.  The habit of ignoring concerns of the lower staff who can clearly see up close, developing problems, coupled with greed leads to abusing workers by making them work too hard or too many hours and skirting obvious safety issues.

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ΩΩOne thing that always irritates these guys are union rules.  Many of these rules might seem stupid on the surface, but without any union input or power, the owners become extremely reckless and increasingly dangerous and invariably cut corners and create catastrophes.  This is our lesson we must learn.  Not praying to sundry and assorted ‘gods’ to let us eat our cakes and pollute them, too.

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40 responses to “Praying To Gods To Save Us From Our Own Oil Disasters

  1. wb

    “…..the consequences of fracking on the communities where it takes place: the huge pits and pools of used toxic fracking fluid, left to spill on the ground and evaporate into the atmosphere; darkened and foul-smelling air and water; sick vegetation, animals and people; and dramatic gas explosions and fires, including tap water that bursts into flames.”

    http://www.thenation.com/article/36385/onshore-drilling-disasters-waiting-happen-interview-gasland-director-josh-fox

  2. MikeM

    I can’t help but laugh! We humans are imbeciles, as far as caring for our environment it concerned.

    I’m quite sure we will become extinct before too long. Good riddance! Perhaps Mother Earth will smile once again.

  3. if

    Israel bars German minister from Gaza
    ‘Sometimes the Israeli government does not make it easy for its friends to explain why it behaves the way it does,’ says aid minister Dirk Niebel.
    http://tinyurl.com/39lgkjs

  4. JT

    1. Heart disease
    2. Cancer
    3. Stroke
    4. Chronic lower respiratory diseases
    5. Accidents
    6. Diabetes

    Heh, you could say that diabetes and heart disease are from oil too.
    In the US an average person eats a gallon of oil per day. ;)

  5. nah

    BP Chief Yachts While Gulf Oil Spill Burns
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/06/20/bp-chief-yachts-gulf-oil-spill-burns/
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    BP ceo is a tool… talk about nero playing his violin as rome burns… or whatever this guy is supposed to get paid for managing
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    if you cant take the heat, at least take the money… ceo pride man cash out… then let the chips fall where they may
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    risk/reward looks so imperial these days… the people invest/invent themselves technology… and fools get the credit
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    just a point these guys are the same boobs saving the banking system and wanting us to subscribe to carbon credits… starting to look like there is no plan of action for any of this ‘energy crisis’ that is realistic… infact my bet is all these guys plan for is fat paydays and 21st century luxury, the rest is window dressing and negotiated government contracts to ‘save the world in 5 easy steps’
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    there is no plan… just playtime in the north atlantic everytime things dont work out… then back to the drawing board
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    dude what if you could see the future, and noone knew wtf they were doing

  6. JT

    A BP estimate made after the explosion of the Deepwater Horizon noted that as much as 100,000 barrels per day could leak.
    http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/06/20/gulf.oil.disaster/index.html

    Yup, yup now it´s an Exxon Valdez every 2,5 days. 20x the original estimate.
    -ou f*ck-

    (I think it really is around 60 000, but they will release a bigger number now in order for people to feel better when 60 000 is confirmed again later).

  7. nah

    Iran hangs Jundallah chief
    http://beta.thehindu.com/news/international/article475879.ece
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    iran for all its anti-Israeli rhetoric is not perfect… but she is fighting the same wars as us to a large degree suffering modern imperialism and suicide

  8. nah

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/06/20/barton-apology-bp-turns-oil-spill-political-football/
    Emanuel went further, linking Barton to any number of Republican candidates who think that “government is the problem.”

    “This is not just one person. Rand Paul, running for Senate in Kentucky, what did he say? He said the way BP was being treated was un-American,” Emanuel said. “Other members of the Republican leadership have come to the defense of BP and attacked the administration for forcing them to set up an escrow account and fund it to the level of $20 billion.”
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    come on rand paul… stake something worth holing on to, your father is a Great man… i wish you the best we need Ron Paul Boi

  9. nah

    Israel and the Surrender of the West
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704198004575311011923686570.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
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    The most interesting voice in all the fallout surrounding the Gaza
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    I DONT CARE i want the peace process back… enough walls and murder

  10. nah

    Lady Gaga banned in Bronx? Only after a Yankees loss
    http://content.usatoday.com/communities/dailypitch/post/2010/06/lady-gaga-banned-in-bronx-only-after-a-loss/1
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    im i the only one left staring at this womans panties???

  11. Matheus

    12 American Warships, Including One Aircraft Carrier, And One Israeli Corvette, Cross Suez Canal On Way To Red Sea And Beyond…

  12. Claire Voyant

    Goldman Sachs was heavily shorting Transocean, BP and related stocks several days before the Deepwater Horizon blowout. In fact, during the first quarter, GS sold $250 million of BP stock, twice as much as any other institution during that time frame. If GS had sold its shares post-spill, they would have lost $96 million, 36% of their value. Great market timing, or did somebody know what was coming?

    http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0602/month-oil-spill-goldman-sachs-sold-250-million-bp-stock/

  13. PLovering

    @Claire Voyant, “Goldman Sachs was heavily shorting Transocean, BP and related stocks several days before the Deepwater Horizon blowout.”

    This Gulf Oil Spill is no accident. I’ve said so since day one, on this forum and others.

    For those of you who still believe in government version of 9/11, oil spill, terrorists, vaccines, credit ratings, CDSwaps, pandemics, and other false flag accidents, GOOD NEWS:

    Stock in my Dear Departed Communications Company, Ltd. is dirt cheap at the moment.

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    ELAINE: More stupid conspiracy theories! GS sold BP stock because the price of oil dropped.

  14. wuen

    Praying for a divine entity to help human by interfering in human affair is dangerous. If the divine entity does not help the people who beg for his help by their prayer, it would make the him appear merciless and powerless, if it answer the prayer, it would make him feel oblige to help the beggar. Both of it does not make the divine entity satisfy.

    I am sure the divine entity if it exist would like to live a life without to worry. We benefit from the divine entity because his action create matter into this universe which bring us life. We should thank the divine entity for what we have already and not ask for more.

    The GOP leader fail to appreciate and understand the action of the divine entity by asking him to intervene into human affair. Hope no ones listen to the GOP leader.

    Human should never ask the divine entity to intervene into human affair. We should leave the divine entity alone, this is to show respect toward him.

  15. Jimmy

    Elaine, not to be a pedant, but I believe the current consensus for the genesis of the asteroid belt is not a collision but instead (a) the tidal forces of Jupiter’s gravity keeping the planetesimals from coalescing or, (b) accumulation of planetesimals during migration of the gas giants in the primordial solar system while they established orbital resonances.

    The Trojan asteroids are good evidence of the disruptive effect of the Jupiter’s gravity on inner solar system planetesimals.

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    ELAINE: you misread me. I said that planet blew apart (didn’t say what caused it to break up). The resulting asteroidial material then showered the earth, Mars, Venus, Mercury and of course, fell into the sun.

  16. Fetung

    Elaine, more news on tension with Iran:

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/babylonbeyond/2010/06/saudi-arabia-riyadh-upgrades-air-capabilities-amid-tensions-with-iran.html

    “SAUDI ARABIA: Riyadh upgrades air capabilities amid rising tensions with Iran”

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article7148555.ece

    “Saudi Arabia gives Israel clear skies to attack Iranian nuclear sites”

    “GREEN LIGHT US TO ATTACK IRAN !!! BILDERBERG 2010 MEETING !!! RUSSIAN CHINA ALLIANCE ”

    I wonder if this has to do with the sudden increase in Saudi’s gold reserve we saw a few days ago… Who gave them those gold and why?

    http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/trichet/Gold%20WGC%20June.jpg

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    ELAINE: I noted several days ago, Saudi Arabia denied the leaked report (leaked by whom? Mossad?).

  17. if

    10 juni 2010 14:38:14 A dire report circulating in the Kremlin today that was prepared for Prime Minister Putin by Anatoly Sagalevich of Russia’s Shirshov Institute of Oceanology warns that the Gulf of Mexico sea floor has been fractured “beyond all repair” and our World should begin preparing for an ecological disaster “beyond comprehension” unless “extraordinary measures” are undertaken to stop the massive flow of oil into our Planet’s eleventh largest body of water.
    http://tinyurl.com/2csas4x

  18. emsnews

    Yes, this stupid drilling business was a catastrophe and it is of unknown proportions.

  19. if

    Chris Landau has made a living as an engineer for decades. South African by birth, American citizen by naturalization and choice, Landau is at odds with many mainstream geologists. He is a proponent of the inorganic oil creation process. This process differs from what we were all taught in school. It poses that oil is the byproduct of natural deep earth processes and that oil doesn’t come “from decayed plant matter.”
    As a product from earth processes, the stuff we call oil contains a variety of toxic, deadly chemicals. Landau says the Gulf catastrophe is caused by an oil well blow out. This is where gas pressure builds up and blows the well head. In this particular case, not only has the well head been blown, but the massive pressure inside the well, driven by a pool of gas that is thousands of miles deep and 20 miles across, have fractured the sea bottom. This has created additional splits in the earth, which allow more oil to bleed out of the earth, like black blood spewing from the earth’s arteries.
    Landau says this is not a “spill.” A spill is finite. This is a blow out, an explosion of oil spewing out of the earth under great pressure. What is spewing out, blasting out with more pressure than we comprehend, is a toxic mixture of various chemicals, some of which can kill you at a mere 400 parts per million.
    http://tinyurl.com/37arlfy

  20. emsnews

    If, that is totally stupid. Want to know why biotic oil is ‘toxic’?

    Go look at the biology of all living things especially plant life! The cells have many ‘toxic’ elements. When it is crushed over the eons and turned into mush, these various elements such as say, sulfur which are in all our cellular structures, is CONCENTRATED.

    The abiotic business is about as stupid as it gets. I have nothing but total contempt for the concept. Anyone who falls for this obvious flim flam should be ashamed. Akin to falling for the ‘let the government print money and use this to pay off all debts, it won’t cause INFALTION!’ scam.

  21. emsnews

    http://www.soils.wisc.edu/~barak/soilscience326/listofel.htm

    The essential mineral elements are:

    Nitrogen, phosphorus, potassium, calcium, magnesium, sulfur, boron, chlorine, iron, manganese, zinc, copper, molybdenum, and nickel.

    In addition to the essential mineral elements are the beneficial elements, elements which promote plant growth in many plant species but are not absolutely necessary for completion of the plant life cycle, or fail to meet Arnon and Stout’s criteria on other grounds. Recognized beneficial elements are:

    Silicon, sodium, cobalt, and selenium

    Other elements that have been proposed as candidates for essential or beneficial elements include chromium, vanadium, and titanium, although strong evidence is lacking at this time.

    Another group is the essential nonmineral elements, elements taken up as gas or water, which are:

    Hydrogen, oxygen, and carbon

    For example, we can’t tolerate chlorine gases but the chlorine atom is in all plant cells. The H2O parts of plants are crushed out of the mix and the other ones which happen to be much more complex atoms than the very simple hydrogen and oxygen atoms, predominate in volume compared to before being crushed by tons of rock.

  22. emsnews

    The seabed is probably stressed and may be subsiding due to the EARTHQUAKES along all of the rim of the Caribbean Plate which went from being totally inactive to very, very active this last six months. I should write about this more. I suspect the Mississippi is due for anther massive quake a la New Madrid.

  23. PLovering

    The Russians proved that oil is a product of earth’s processes.

    This oil spill was a well-planned “accident”.

    Oil vapors fry the brain.

    Oil spill Zombies are a certainty. Millions of them.

    Lizard bait.

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    ELAINE; The single Russian guy proved nothing. Nor do the Russian geologists or oil guys believe him any more than I.

  24. TweedleDeeDumb

    Supposed evolutionists assume living cells without a spiritual base..

    ..there’s never been any of those.

    Scientists can’t, and never will, create living cells. They can’t create the spiritual base.

    The scientist TINKERS with the already living.

    The potential for all cellular degeneration is based in a spiritual cause..

    “Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:” (Ro 5:12)

    The solution will ONLY be in resurrection..

    “But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:” (2Ti 1:10)

    Don’t miss it.
    All IQ gradient-ites are invited. :-)

  25. emsnews

    So, bacteria, viral single cells and pond scum are all ‘spiritual’. Got it.

  26. ken

    120,000bpd

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    ELAINE: :)

  27. TweedleDeeDumb

    elaine,

    Yes, there are no living cells without spiritual realities.

    The marketed a$$umption is that “chemistry did it!”

    Why?

    The alternative consideration is too scary…
    ..It will press one back to infallible FACT..

    “Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.” (Heb 11:3) :-)

    Learn it now, or later.
    Now is the preferred.

    “(For he saith, I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold, NOW [is] the accepted time; behold, NOW [is] the day of salvation.)” (2Co 6:2) :-)

  28. TweedleDeeDumb

    Man is stuck with manufacturing “flying machines”…

    ..His intelligence, as always, is way too deficient to create 1 living bird cell.

    God holds the keys…
    ..even to cerebral cells. ;-)

    Man’s problem has always been spiritual.
    However, he will rage in denial.

    But some begin to listen.
    This is good. :-)

    “And when they heard of the resurrection of the dead, some mocked: and others said, We will hear thee again of this [matter]. So Paul departed from among them. Howbeit certain men clave unto him, and believed: among the which [was] Dionysius the Areopagite, and a woman named Damaris, and others with them.” (Ac 17:32-34)

  29. Dibbles

    “So, bacteria, viral single cells and pond scum are all ‘spiritual’.”

    LOL! You should see what that spiritual Streptococcal TSS bacteria did to my niece three years ago. Sent her to intensive care and comatose. Thanks to her stubborn will to live, she’s still here on earth with us – missing some digits though, and about to have her remaining toes amputated due to pain and ongoing complications. She was a runway model. Not anymore, of course.

    Wonder how spiritual that bacteria feels now, having failed to take her life. Guess its’ God just wasn’t big enough.

    Sheesh….now I think I know what happened to those old hippies who overdosed on LSD in the ’60s.

  30. emsnews

    I hope for the best for your beautiful niece. I lost my health when her age and nearly died, lost some teeth, most of my very long hair and lots of other things but kept alive and built a new and quite different life afterwards. A long road climbing out of the Vale of Death but youth makes this possible. I hope she prospers.

    Fashion modeling can be a death sentence and it may benefit to not be in that field. I am speaking about anorexia, something my older sisters who were over 6 feet tall had.

  31. Dibbles

    Thank you so much Elaine.
    You are correct about modeling and she’d come to that realization as well. She was starting community college to seek out healthier opportunities for her life when the toxic blood infection nailed her.

    As you say, youth gives the body a better chance of survival. Definitely physical advantage, but I think emotional and subconscious too.

    Also, I think narrow brushes with death give us a much more acute and natural sense of spiritual awareness. Of what is divine. It has little to do with religious cultism. A much broader and deeper awareness of the interconnectedness of all life around us. We are temporary and miniscule. Life itself is the greatest gift from nature. What we do with it and how we react to unpredictability is our lifelong challenge. Our active solitary and communal love for humanity is what “God” is to me. Humans manifest God. It is what separates us from all other life in the natural world.

    Thanks again for your kind words. And for continuing to share your valuable insights with all of us.

  32. 1289

    Where is the repentence for America’s ugly sins? Where are the Pat Robertsons blaming us -for the first time rightly- for our killing of millions around the world over decades for all the innocents we’ve warred against and murdered, for oil and to maintain “our lifestyle”?

    This nation is getting exactly what justice would apportion.

  33. Bonnie

    Are you kidding?

    It’s NOT our own own disaster!

    You must be from BP and/or the Feds.

    You should do a little homework!

    The ptb control every aspect of our lives with an iron fist, bleeding us dry thru taxes.

    Then they AND the gov. back news media, accuse us, the Grassroots, when every disaster comes along.

    Every time someone comes up with an engline using Fre Energy or alternative means, the Corps.

    1-buy it up and hide it
    2-threaten the inventor with his life or that of his family
    3-kill the inventor. This is done to the stubborn ones

    This happened just recently in California, when an inventor was testing his new hydrogen engine. Everybody was saved except him.

    There have been a myriad of engines invented in the last decades that are NOT allowed use.

    The Grassroots has been trying for decades to clean up land and water. The save the trees, chaining themselves to the trees, risking abuse and jail time. But every time, they have been harrassed and beaten down.This has happened from the U.S.A. to Nepal, where village women tryind to save their forests, at the foot of the Himalayas.

    The Grassroots have legislated, Marched for and finally, accomplished their goals, to clean the waterways, but just as they done it, the Corps. turn around and dump waste, not only waste, but toxic waste, into the clean waterways.

    As the same with the nuclear waste. Right now, the Corp. are dumpling it into the San Andreas Fault. Did you know that?

    As to the oil spill disaster, who told BP to drill past a certain depth? This Corp. has trillions and trillions of dolars. Don'[t tell me they don’t have the connectiions to and the ability to use Satellite Radar, to take pics of what is underneath the floor of the Gulf!

    BP is now pointing fingers, and you’re helping them. But this time, IF ever, we the Grassroots , are not responsible. BP thinks they can pay off claimants for the disaster, but NO amount of money can pay for the Dead ZOne, the blue-green waters turned black. You can even see it from Space.

    BP ignored every safety process, brushed saide every warning from the Managers to the driller at the bottom of the totem pole.

    And the matgerials used were substandard. Cutting corners at every level.

    And there are reports that have come out that indicate thais this Disaster, actually happened way back in February, NOT in April, like they’re saying.

    But evey so, even if it had happened then, they covered it up for 3 weeks, minium count. Until it came to the surface, literally, and couldn’t be covered up anymore.

    If it hadn’t, they would still be hiding the crap coming out of their pants.

    Still, it seems, BP and the U.S. Coast Guard AND the Feds, are working hand-in-glove , preventing any civilian near the area. The entire Gulf Coast is in lockdown mode. Reporters, photographers are being threatened by the Coast Guard, no flights commercial or otherwise, are allowed. If it weren’t for those hardy souls for whistleblowrs, the public still wouldn’t know anything is going on down there…..except for the edges of the Horror. And the fact that there are strange white spots on the trees and plants along there. And people, now are smelling fumes, and getting sick.

    What is BP hiding, anyway? Oil crude is black and liquid, the stuff coming out is thick and red-brown. The smell is not from oil, but methane.

    On torp of that, BP made it worse, by spread tons of the most toxic oit dispersant known to man. This in spite of the orders from the EPA and/or the FDA not to do it. But BP did what they wanted, refusing to listen.

    What is BP, the U.S. Coast Guard, the police departments in the area, going all the way to the Feds, and Obama, hiding? Gathering up all the dead stuff on the beaches, and burnign it? Even throwning a live turltle into the flames? To prevent chemical testing? Plowing over the guck in the beaches?

    The Grassroots, as we’ve been taught from childhood, the sane ones, anyway, to clean up our own messes.

    And if it had happened thru our actions, we would have done it, too.

    We, Human Beings, wouldn’t have let it go to this point. We, wouldn’t have had the heart to allow the killing of the Wildlife and the rest of Nature.

    No, No, the Grassroots are NOT responsible

  34. Bonnie

    cont’d

    No. the Grasroots are NOT responsible for this.

    The ones responsible are the Controllers of this Planet. Thye have no Souls.

    But use, all of Life for their purpose.

    As to praying, we’ve hit bottom. We couldn;t do better.

    Our hands have been tied, chained, handcuffed at every turn.

    We, not allolwed to help ourselves, not allowed to do anything to help in this disaster.

    Don’t you think if we had been, individuals wouldn’t have the tools and the material and the cameras, and the airlines, and had suited up, to go down there for alook-see and fix it? And have already cleaned up the mess?

    Oh, yes, there are thousands of us, ready to go.

    But, we’re weren’t allowed.

    At this point, though, no Human Being can help us.

    And now, at this point in time, after what you know, of the events, you can still mockus, and be sarcastic about praying.

    Go jump in the Gulf of Mexico!

    Or will

  35. wb

    Too right, Bonnie.

    I read somewhere, a description of a meeting held way back in the 1950s, where the heads of some of the mega-corporations discussed the obvious problems they were going to face from the massive pollution which came as a by product of their activities. They consciously chose the tactic ‘Blame the consumers’, as a way to divert blame away from themselves, and it has worked very well for them ever since…

  36. emsnews

    There has not been a suppression of various magical wonder tools or medicines. On the contrary, most claims that this or that is an amazing thing or cure turns often to be fakes.

    The consumers can be blamed! We don’t want to be responsible for anything, collectively. This is why, during the cheap oil years of 1990-2000, instead of buying gas misers, the bulk of the public rushed into SUVs. I owned a Geo Metro, one of the smallest cars back then and the behemoths tailgating me for that decade was scary as hell. People in big machines were very arrogant and often, angry and vicious.

    We could have saved our nation during the cheap oil years using the cheap oil to set up alternative energy systems. Instead, we consumers wanted to binge away!

  37. wb

    But don’t you think that ‘the consumers’ are trained to follow what the advertisements tell them, Elaine ? Indeed, they are taught, from early childhood, to follow a certain set of values, which are those promoted by the corporations which own the media and pay for the advertisements, and the same folks make the Hollywood junk movies, which promote the same values.
    The consumers are placed in a position where they have no choice but to consume what is available, if the want to fit in to the mainstream culture. Folks who reject that culture are portrayed as eccentric weirdos.

    If anyone does invent an eco friendly technology which threatens market share, the corporations will try and buy up the patent and block production, or, as Ford and General Motors did for the public tram system, buy the whole business and close it down, so folks are forced to have cars and use gasoline…

    They even try to subvert legitimate science, to maintain their hold.

    http://www.exxonsecrets.org/maps.php

    The corporations will exploit any human weakness if it’ll make them some money.
    Shock and depravity get attention, so that we are always on the slippery slope downwards towards an ever more unpleasant soceity.

    IMO, it’s like the Roman ‘bread and circuses’, to keep the mob entertained so that they wouldn’t riot in the streets or overthrow the decadent ruling elite. It began innocently, as sports competitions, similar to the Olympic games, and degenerated until thousands of people and wild animals were killed in the Circus Maximus every afternoon, in ever more bizarre and horrible ways.

    “A single factory, potentially capable of supplying a whole continent with its particular product, cannot afford to wait until the public asks for its product; it must maintain constant touch, through advertising and propaganda, with the vast public in order to assure itself the continuous demand which alone will make its costly plant profitable.”

    The techniques developed by Bernays allow almost everyone to be manipulated, without them even ever realizing it. I consider that to be immoral and pernicious.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays

  38. emsnews

    Nope. People like to do stupid things. When oil was cheap, they all wanted desperately to have these huge, hulking monster cars so they could tool around, feeling like big shots! I hated this period and had to summon the police quite a few times due to irritable, dangerous drivers in huge vehicles.

    Thanks to high oil prices, the number of monster trucks on the road have fallen greatly and I am quite relieved. But the desire for these cars are due to people’s natural inclinations to be big and nasty if possible.

  39. wb

    If it’s a ‘natural inclination’ to ‘do stupid things’ and be ‘big and nasty’, then how do you explain people ( like you and I, of course, hahaha ) who *don’t* do stupid things, or want to be big and nasty ?

    You’ll say we are un-natural ? not natural ?

    I think that there is a basic human nature which we inherit, which we are born with. However, we are extremely flexible, and get trained by the culture we enter. In the case of USA, the vested interests make sure that most people get trained to follow values which suit the corporations, capitalism, greed, military imperialism, etc.

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