ΩΩSometimes I disagree with Ron Paul and sometimes I would just love to kiss him. This week, he has delivered some of the very best speeches about Wikileaks, ever. This takes a lot of guts. Also, some of the Wikileaks anonymous members are now scared sexless and are now opening up a rival whistleblower website only…this one won’t feed raw information to the public but only to the mainstream media which will, naturally, censor it. The disgraceful coverage of the embassy cables by the NYT and Washington Post are prime examples of how ‘stupid is as stupid does’ with our media. Useless.
GOP’S RON PAUL DEFENDS WIKILEAKS ON HOUSE FLOOR
ΩΩA prime example of how our media covers up stuff by not covering it is this video made the day Bush was shoehorned into the White House after that odious ‘We have no right to vote’, decision by a very divided Supreme Court. Few Americans know of the rage shown that day which is very similar to the rage flung at Prince Charles yesterday:
ΩΩFar from relaxing about these cables after the mainstream media mocked the information and pretended it meant nothing, the State Department and Pentagon are going totally insane trying desperately to prevent their own employees and people from accessing any of this interesting information: The US is taking steps to stop further leaks. Wired magazine reports that troops are being stopped from using CDs, DVDs, thumb drives, and every other form of removable media – or risk a court martial.
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ΩΩI wouldn’t be surprised if they cut off the thumbs of anyone who accesses this information. If, as the odious NYT yappers, the main TV bloviators and other assorted animals say is true, none of this information is even slightly interesting except for humor. Oh, Putin is Batman! HAHAHA. Of course, the swiftness with which the Pentagon forced the Guardian, the only mainstream paper to be serious about these cables, to delete the one about the NATO negotiators planning to lie to Russia about how many nuclear missiles we have and our ‘first strike’ plans to use them against Russia without ANY warning…this was big news and even I had to censor it to save my own skin.
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ΩΩBut the NYT should have run it! They are big and powerful! Instead, all they published were memos about Iran where our own diplomats concentrated mainly on framing Iran so the cables were framing Iran very heavily. Duh. That isn’t news. The news that Saudi Arabia is a Zionist ally is very big news indeed and will have shocking consequences. Not that no one knew this information. Bin Laden made it quite clear, this was the case. Only now has it been proven beyond a doubt. Since the Saudi Royals are the ‘good guys’ (!!!) we are supposed to ignore this information but there are a lot of revolutionaries out there who are very interested in this and it will spread and in the next 10 years, may end up causing quite a change.
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ΩΩJust as the British Royal family is not popular with students to day and the lackey Tory Party is connected hip to jaw with the royals, Cameron is now threatening to imprison the students who trashed Charles (who was creating lots of CO2 pollution) indeed, I think he deserves to be trashed for destroying the entire planet earth, driving heedlessly around in his gas guzzler! HAHAHA. Someone has to stop him. He, himself, claims we are all going to die if people like him pollute the planet so…off with his CO2 machines!
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ΩΩThe Wikileaks battle for who is boss continues with very, very young revolutionaries in the forefront: A 16-year-old Dutch boy was arrested on suspicion of being involved in the cyber attack against Visa and Mastercard . This is, like the student riots in Europe and UK, a true Children’s Crusade and they are all, like we did in 1968-1972, fighting the vast military powers of the State and of course, the State will stop at nothing to crush us. So it will be this time unless the parents intervene and pressure the State to change course. For example, we finally, finally got the mad Vietnam War to end. Kissinger’s negotiations didn’t do it, it was us pressuring the government that motivated Nixon to finally stop it.
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ΩΩNote that the present Afghanistan war, which is mainly fought by very young people, is now longer than both the Vietnam War and the Russian Afghanistan adventure. Wikileaks has been as useful as the Pentagon Papers in that they revealed gross war crimes last summer and now, inept and inane as well as corrupt embassy activities such as the Hillary spying on the UN scandal. The UN forgave her but this is like forgiving Stalin in 1948. Ridiculous.
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ΩΩHere is an interesting screen shot from Latest news, comment and reviews from the Guardian | guardian.co.uk
ΩΩNote that one of the demonstrators being warned to not do anything against the State is a child! A child who is daring to picket Parliament! During the Vietnam War, brave children defied the State and demonstrated and I witnessed with my own eyes, small children being hit by police. The State, which gets all soppy-sobby over some idiotic sex fiend female trying desperately to get someone famous to have sex with them, wailing about how mean Clinton or Assange is to lay these females…and then go out and beat the snot out of small children demonstrating against State policies!
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ΩΩThey don’t care about these fragile sex fiend females being hurt. These women appear nearly indestructible, anyway. But beating up 12 year old boys demonstrating against something Parliament voted for is OK with them, indeed, the child will be charged with ‘resisting arrest’ if he does find himself being confronted by the police!
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ΩΩMeanwhile, the second headline is hilarious: what was Tiananmen Square? Oh, a bunch of young students demonstrating against the government, demanding change! Oh!!!! It is…IDENTICAL to what is going on in London today! The differences are vanishingly small. I see none, actually.
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ΩΩSeeing those bloody politicians being so grave and touchy-feely about a Chinese dissident hero who is in prison exactly like Assange and all of the students being arrested…while verbally attacking Western people resisting THEIR states! Disgust isn’t the right word here. Horrible. It is just…maybe some day justice will be hammered into the heads of these hypocrites.
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ΩΩBack to the land of a 1,000 rapists chasing a few wild sexually active females: Sweden: we did not bow to political pressure over Julian Assange | World news | guardian.co.uk
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- Martin Valfridsson, a spokesman for the Swedish minister of justice, Beatrice Ask, said yesterday the suggestion was “completely wrong…As far as I know no such pressure has been put on Sweden,” he said.
- Jonas Björk, a correspondent with the TV4 channel, said the idea that the original rape allegations were a part of a conspiracy to attack the WikiLeaks founder stretched credibility. ”For it to have been a honey-trap operation would have been so complicated that I can’t see how it could have been pulled off; if it was, then I tip my hat to the CIA,” he said.
- The second question of whether international pressure was applied to Sweden to demand an arrest was a less nonsensical hypothesis, he said, but, “I believe the politicians when they say they haven’t had any pressure from abroad.”
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ΩΩAnd are they telling the truth? Have they ever told the truth vis a vis the US? HAHAHA. Of course, the CIA rumor is false. This chick in Sweden/Israel isn’t a CIA agent and the government of Sweden knows this. But she is OF INTEREST to the CIA which INTERSECTS with her in key areas and likes to track her and…USE her. I consider this a form of rape. She is a tool, not an employee. Of course, this goes to the core of how the CIA operates: they love to use outsiders who know nothing and understand little and then shove them into various situations and also get these people to confide in them! Duh. I wish the conspiracy web site people could figure this out.
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ΩΩBut we know from the released cables that the US will twist every arm in every country in every instance to get their own way. This is a given. We can certainly safely assume this is the case today. Here is a typical real rape and even a potential murder case where the criminals, who are prominent people, get to go free for a long, long time while being investigated: fron today’s news—Designer Found Dead in NYC Hotel Bathtub – TIME
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- Sylvie Cachay, 33, was found in a Soho House room after police received a call from the Manhattan hotel at about 3 a.m., police said. Water had been leaking from a ceiling, and hotel staff went to the floor above, where they found Cachay, dressed in a thin black sweater and underwear, submerged face up in the 6 1/2-foot oval tub.
- Cachay’s boyfriend, Nicholas Brooks, the 24-year-old son of “You Light Up My Life” songwriter Joseph Brooks, was seen leaving the hotel earlier and returned at about 3:30 a.m. to find police there, the law enforcement official said. In an unrelated case, the father is fighting charges that accuse him of molesting would-be actresses in his Manhattan apartment….The elder Brooks, 72, has been accused of raping 11 women he lured to his apartment with the promise of a starring role in a movie. He has pleaded not guilty to sexual assault charges and is free on bail. He won the Oscar for Best Original Song for the 1977 ballad “You Light Up My Life.” He also wrote and directed the movie “You Light Up My Life,” about a comedian who has a one-night stand with a director. His attorney had no comment Thursday.
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ΩΩSo, if you overtly rape 11 women, you get out on bail in the US. But the US wants Assange whose crime seems to be, normal sex with normal outcomes but then changed to rape after days of ruminating about it…he has to be held as if this were the worst thing on earth. Obviously, this ‘Light Up My Life’ composer wasn’t so romantic and maybe his son is vicious. But Assange didn’t even raise a bruise. And didn’t promise these Swedish sweeties, he would give them a job in the movies. He didn’t defraud them with promises aside from the usual, ‘I’ll call you someday’.
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ΩΩSeeing the vicious campaign against one of their own, some of the Wikileaks people are jumping ship: Openleaks, WikiLeaks Rival, To Launch As Break Away From ‘Slave Driver’ Assange: Report
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- Several key members involved with online whistleblower WikiLeaks are said to be deserting beleaguered founder Julian Assange to form their own rival site, Openleaks, reportedly expected to launch Monday.
- According to the Swedish newspaper Dagens Nyheter, the new site will be called “Openleaks,” and like its predecessor, will allow whistleblowers to leak information to the public anonymously. However, the new site will differ in that it won’t be responsible for hosting the information itself directly for the public eye, but will instead act as an intermediary between whistleblowers and media organizations.
- “Our long term goal is to build a strong, transparent platform to support whistleblowers–both in terms of technology and politics–while at the same time encouraging others to start similar projects,” a colleague wishing to remain anonymous is quoted by Dagens Nyheter as saying.
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ΩΩHow ridiculous is this? This merely means, if someone risks their life, like Manning, and releases something and then this Openleaks clowns give it to the NYT, then the NYT can turn around and give this to the State Department and prosecutors and then go after the leaker while….not revealing the information to anyone else! How dumb is this? The mainstream media has an atrocious record in this matter! This isn’t the ‘Watergate/Pentagon Papers’ media, this is the ravening wolves of Zionism out to destroy anyone in their path media.
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ΩΩAs Robert Parry talks about the suicide of a very brave reporter who went insane, Big Media’s Guilt in Gary Webb’s Death and the irritating case of a reporter who really dug into the same stories about CIA drug dealing as well as the connected story about Atta and his gang and the airport in Florida, Hopsicker who runs Mad Cow Morning News have been totally marginalized by the mainstream media. Hopsicker is still alive but bewildered as to why his information gathering makes no splashes. I know for a fact, Garry felt the same way because he and I discussed that in the past. The US media has an infinite ability to ignore information coupled with some very nasty and vicious personal attacks on anyone daring to reveal information they want to conspire to hide.
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ΩΩMeanwhile, as Congress debates ridiculous tax cuts we can’t afford and Obama slits his political wrists, Contractors’ Hopes Dim on Averting Big Cuts in Arms Programs – WSJ.com
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- Hopes are dimming in the U.S. defense industry that Secretary of Defense Robert Gates might be able to stave off serious cuts in U.S. weapons-buying programs.
- Earlier this year, Mr. Gates launched a drive to identify wasteful or duplicative spending at the Pentagon, aiming to realize savings of $100 billion over the next five years. Mr. Gates’ plan was to plow those savings back into weapons-modernization projects, ensuring that American troops overseas would be fully equipped even as military spending flattened out.
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ΩΩWe will save no money. What is happening is, we have to see the Pentagon pretend to save money and then everyone will just give up and put it on the debt bill we are ringing up. And our empire will continue to go bankrupt. The huge $30 billion jet deal for Israel was cancelled this week by Obama but Congress will re-instate it because they are Zionist traitors. Nothing, I repeat, nothing will be fixed and the media won’t belly ache about this, either.
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ΩΩAnd this is why: Corruption Rises Over 3 Years, More People Paid Bribes (Update1) – Bloomberg.com. Of course, the story is how evil foreigners are corrupt. But the US embassy cables make it clear, who is corrupting them: we are. All over the place. In the Guardian, there is a story from the Wikileaks files about how Pfizer tried to first bribe Nigerian politicians and then get embassy help to find dirt on them so they could be black mailed, all in quest of not paying a fine for not correctly using human children in medical tests. Yikes. Typical, though.
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ΩΩBut not heard about in the US news. Too busy chasing after Assange for getting a blow job in Sweden.
Elaine, apparently now there are a large number of well known people including Zbigniew Brzezinski who think the way I thought and commented at your website the other day.
Wikileaks: A Big Dangerous US Government Con Job
By F. William Engdahl
For anyone who has studied the craft of intelligence and of disinformation, a clear pattern emerges in the Wikileaks drama.
The focus is put on select US geopolitical targets, appearing as Hillary Clinton put it “to justify US sanctions against Iran.”
The story on the surface makes for a script for a new Oliver Stone Hollywood thriller. A 39-year old Australian hacker holds the President of the United States and his State Department hostage to a gigantic cyber “leak,” unless the President leaves Julian Assange and his Wikileaks free to release hundreds of thousands of pages of sensitive US Government memos. A closer look at the details, so far carefully leaked by the most ultra-establishment of international media such as the New York Times, reveals a clear agenda. That agenda coincidentally serves to buttress the agenda of US geopolitics around the world from Iran to Russia to North Korea. The Wikileaks is a big and dangerous US intelligence Con Job which will likely be used to police the Internet.
Read the rest from the link below:
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/12/10/wikileaks-a-big-dangerous-us-government-con-job/
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Zbigniew Brzezinski interview on PBS.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/government_programs/july-dec10/weakileaks2_11-29.html
Now you decide for yourself what he´s saying.
Documentary about wikileaks
http://svtplay.se/v/2264028/wikirebels_the_documentary
HE IS STUPID> Good gods, didn’t you read my story about the NATO nuclear bomb memo???? The one the Pentagon forced Guardian to censor????
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The NYT cherry picked the memos to highlight. They ignored all the others. THIS IS NOT WIKILEAKS FAULT. Z.B. has his own dark history, I hated that man for years and years. He is a tool, damn it.
The Vietnam war stopped, not becaudse of Kissinger or Nixon had a change of “heart” (first off you need to have a “heart”)..but rather the FUNDING stopped…and that’s how these wars will stop too…and that’s how they try to stop Wikileaks…thru the FUNDING.
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No, the funding did not stop. They had to stop it because there was basically a general uprising against fighting. Did you know that one of the last West Point classes to graduate in the end, 90% of them REFUSED to volunteer to be stationed in Vietnam? Seriously.
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Brzezinski pretty much ties it to Israeli intelligence services as leaks are seeded with pointed facts to favor an agenda, to make Countries such as Iran, Syria, Turkey, Russia, China etc. look bad. Whereas others such as William Engdahl see its grand scheme as policing the internet. Yesterday I read somewhere that two lawmakers already are asking for legislation to that effect.
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I think he says it´s possible.
I have no doubt that intelligence services are spamming wikileaks with stuff.
I doubt Usrael sent them 250000 cables.
They propably sent them something.
Media reports only pieces of it.
Brezinsky basically was doing damage control. He said it himself.
It is totally ok to try to steal dna, passwords and credit cards numbers from people visiting US embassies and UN personnel.
“Nothing to see here. Hehe..”
Well no it´s not. He´s trying to laugh it away “everybody´s doing it”.
Why on earth would Mossad want to leak a bunch of memos that uncover their SECRET deals with Saudi Arabia? This is ILLOGICAL. There is zero reason for them to reveal SA’s association with themselves. This hurts their business with SA and will end up fueling uprisings in Arab states that secretly side with Israel against a number of Muslim countries.
This does NOTHING good for Israel. Nothing at all. THe US media strained like crazy to make these leaks look good for Israel.
If the Israelis wanted to leak the news that Saudi Arabia wanted to bomb Lebanon, Syria and Iran, they would have released this long ago. It is no secret to them.
When anyone in the US attacks Wikileaks with false charges like these BASELESS ones with zero proof, this is a danger sign: our entire political system is very screwed up especially with the case of Israel. Congress is 90%+ pro-Zionist! Think! THINK! IF any of them or other former or present government officials say anything about Zionism, remember, THEY ARE ALL ZIONISTS!
So the question here is, why are all of these government Zionist drones spreading lies about Wikileaks, accusing them of being a Zionist plot. Think! Why in hell’s name are they doing this dirty job?
Ever hear of DARPA? Darpa is a think tank operation that does underground mental games designed to mislead people. They operate heavily in the media and online. They spread lies deliberately to isolate people and to distract people as well as drive them to make conclusions that are insane.
Beware of this! Beware…no one listens to me…sheesh.
@elaine
Israel would like to have Saudi Arabia, Syria and Egypt ruled by Mullahs instead of Iran hating monarchs that fund and support Usrael fight.
Not very logical.
This is a propaganda war in cyberspace.
IMO, anybody who believes a SINGLE WORD coming out of Brzezinski’s mouth is a fool. It was his idea to arm the Taliban and support Bin Laden to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan. He’s a sly, evil warmonger, as blackhearted as Kissinger. Like Goebbels, everything Brzezinski ever said is designed to deceive and manipulate.
http://www.psywarrior.com/Goebbels.html
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Ron Paul is not some overly reported batman crime fighter… Ron Paul is a real American hero
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Wikileaks aint no trouble… and we should let freedom ring from sea to shining sea… Wikileaks had to go down if the government wanted to out more informers Valery Plame style, i say there in on it somehow… good or bad they know something
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Wikileaks was a modern institution that promoted access to and from the system of corporate government… new methods of communication for those that witness what can be labeled abhorrent to create judged information
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instead netflix will help digital communications get regulated enough that anonymity can become impossible
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as for the treacherous cultural chameleon public sex police state slave israeli… really she moved to israel after exposing her sex cable afair… or whatever
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My take is that Wikileaks is brought to you by the letters M, I and C and DOD. Apparently only dept of defence allow downloads as the State dept computers have all their usb ports sealed.
I do have point out 3 million people have access to the network. So if two people can keep a secret if one is dead…
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“Is viewing and republishing documents from WikiLeaks illegal, or isn’t it? Apparently not even the US State Department knows.”
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/state-department-republishes-document-wikileaks/
Thanks, WB. I stuck my own neck way out here. This is because when the Pentagon papers were exposed, the guy who did it had to hide at Berkeley where we all were living and we all protected him. We actually (the students) had plans to surround his house and not let the FBI or cops take him down! Ellsberg still is fond of this memory, he thought he was all alone, fighting the state.
Ron Paul is awesome!! I was watching this on television….agreeing with everything he said!!
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You see, Wikileaks has ruined the world where you can be “on the known” thinking about various conspiracies that are true; instead everyone can see now what are true and what are fake conspiracies.
To keep your view of the “knowing more than others”, Wikileaks must be… conspiracy itself!
Wiki is just rolling out the cast of characters in the great Kabuki epic. ZB just wants folks to keep watching the show so he is trying to blame the other side. Apparently lizards don’t like the limelight. Classic misdirection.
This is theater of the absurd and the people who are telling the truth are obvious: they will either die or go to prison!
This is why the Chinese are mad about Yui, for example. They are shutting him up. While letting news about anti-government demonstrations in Europe and Australia to come into China! Whereas our government is attacking Wikileaks which we can read about in China but not the US, and is attacking Assange to the point, they will kill him, I fear (they want him to commit suicide) meanwhile, we have these ridiculous stories pushed on the web about how Wikileaks is working for the Americans????? HAHAHA. Sheesh. Pisses me off.
like this?
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/12/business/12madoff.html?src=busln
At Zerohedge, A well written article by George Washington, “Pentagon Papers Whistleblowers Call for a New 9/11 Investigation.” The links in this article led to a Daily Kos article State of the Nation,”Bombshell: Bin Laden worked for US till 9/11 published Jul 31, 2009.
Now to the entree, Sibel Edmonds. In the comments a french 2005 documentary video featuring Edmonds and the gag order and other ex-gov agents fighting certain embarrassing treasonous factions within the empire. Extreme measures taken to silence the former FBI translator. Assange’s wikileaks is not as explosive as Edmond’s knowledge. The gag release of Edmond is the key to the sunlight and the best disinfectant of the Washington DC roach empire.
The documentary on youtube; Sibel Edmonds Documentary – Kill The Messenger
They silence anyone with any real information that the elites want to keep hidden. Luckily for them, the left is totally off the cliff and does strange and horrible things to people depending on them to protect them, such as the online groups attacking Assange instead of the US empire.
This is why online organizing is ultimately a failure.
As for 9/11: it was a foretaste of war. Investigating it will do what? This can’t work unless we first allow the free transmission of government information and secrets and Wikileaks tried this!
This is the point: we can’t investigate 9/11 unless we first back up Wikileaks exposing these secret cables! See? It should be obvious but sometimes I despair in people figuring all of this out.
I beg everyone to fully support Wikileaks!!!
If it is possible to persuade/convince the other nation’s populaces that wikileaks is somehow a CIA/Mossad/Nato backed false flag op; then Wikileaks loses worldwide credibility. I have seen people asking: Why won’t Wikileaks publish the foreign affairs cables of “fill in the blank nations? ”
Might it be that no Chinese foreign service officer has chosen to forward any of china’s cables nor any Iranian felt the need to protest Iran’s foreign wars?
Forks have several prongs, one prong is america’s attack on the release of embarassments another prong is the “Assange/Wikileaks is a CIA front”, another is Mad Rapist of Swedish middle age internet star groupies Assage. If these prongs fail others will be sharpened and floated in the american infotainment sphere.
Just watch Stewart to see which way the Israelie media wants to spin the issues.
King Abdullah suggested US chip remaining Guantanamo detainees. Once it starts with anyone under US control, it will eventually spreead to the general population. At which point, the Born Again Christians’ heads will explode.
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/11/chipped-detainees-iran-mega-missiles-and-more-in-latest-wikileaks/