Netanyahu Stomps Obama, Obama Apologizes

The Obama Arab speech has now fallen flatter than a pancake run over by a semi.  Why he even made this speech in the first place baffles me.  Why bother?  Far from reassuring Muslims, it enraged them further as he was frogmarched backwards by a very nasty Netanyahu who flew over to the US to chastise his puppet in the White House.  Once again, right after dancing on bin Laden’s watery grave, after pumping his puny fists, Obama has been shown to be weak, helpless and above all, craven.  A horrible combination for a man pretending to be a winner.

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Netanyahu acted like a nagging wife.  Actually, in the last two years, he had to drop the pretense Israel is a US ally and has forcibly shown us all that Israel rules the US.  No nation can survive being ruled by aliens.  Netanyahu, by the way, is actually an American dual citizen who votes in our elections so from his point of view, all of Israel is the US and it is the only part that runs the US.

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Far from being aliens, the Jews are using Israel asa pirate cove from which they can commit crimes with impunity just as a huge number of rich Jews also use Queen Elizabeth’s islands for the same purposes.  The recent arrest of a ‘socialist’ (sic) Jew running the IMF after he obviously raped a third world maid in NYC is being played in some places as him being the victim of some shadowy anti-semetic conspiracy, for example.

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The perpetual victims are also easily lured into being criminals since no cover is better for a criminal than to cry ‘I am a victim!’  This has lashed the black community in the US, too.  As huge sectors of the black community falls into a worse and worse criminal culture, viewing themselves as victims encourages even more outlaw activity to the point, the death rate from violent crime and the incarceration rate in black communities has soared.

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In Jewish communities, the desire for money and power has destroyed all moral impulses to the point, the collective community believes that using violence to gain power is perfectly OK and indeed, stealing stuff is good so long as one is stealing stuff one thinks one needs.  All looters think this way.  The US is in the process of trying to loot Libya right now and all excuses of ‘protecting the civilians’ has been dropped so that it is now pure butchery.

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Here is how the Jews forced Obama to destroy US diplomatic power pretty thoroughly in just three days:  Obama’s Peace Tack Contrasts With Key Aide, Friend of Israel

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Dennis B. Ross, who favors painstaking diplomacy and eschews game-changing plays, is the chief Middle East adviser to a president with bold instincts.

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So, the Jewish advisor wants nothing to change and wants diplomacy to be painful.  No wonder!  If negotiations are futile, useless, hopeless and harmful, then the Jews can steal more stuff!  Great.  This sort of nit-picking ‘diplomacy’ coupled with an open desire for nothing useful to happen infects all our relations with nearly everyone.
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The US was on top of the world with the collapse of the Soviet Union and China choosing to become a communist capitalist trading partner is gone and dead.  It died on 9/11.  The US got the world to join us in a war against one small man, Osama bin Laden.  To get this from the UN, Bush went to the UN and actually said, he would help the Palestinians and give them a state.
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From that moment onwards, the Jews had to pull off the velvet glove and use the steel fist on anyone in the White House.  This was a very successful smashing of the illusion of the US being a world power.  The entire world, especially the Chinese, are watching in amazement as the US cowers before Israel.  Not only did the US not do a single thing promised after 9/11, the US greenlighted, paid for, enabled and then protected in the UN, the ‘Operation Cast Lead’ which attacked the Gaza Ghetto.
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This, in turn, showed all the people of all Muslim nations, who was really in charge of things in the US.  Now, even the feeble attempt at investigating the war crimes of Cast Lead has collapsed when the Jewish leader of the commission suddenly threw it all on a funeral pyre and announced that no Jew ever commits war crimes.
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The Jews advising our puppet President have told him, he doesn’t need permission to go to war against any and all Muslims.  Even as our bombing of Libya expands, Obama Suggests U.S. Involvement In Libya Limited, Congressional Authority Not Needed.  This isn’t Obama doing it, he is doing what his Jewish advisors tell him.  Jews are about 2% of the population but are more than 10% of Congress and AIPAC funds many elections and isn’t shy about running candidates against anyone who defies them.
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The Jews need this power of instant war that never needs to go to Congress since there is an endless combination of events that will require the US suddenly attacking even allies like NATO member, Turkey, if it is required by Jews.  This naked, eternal, constant aggression is extremely expensive.  It is bankrupting the nation.

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With Netanyahu’s permission, Obama was allowed to visit the CIA branch of Mossad where he said, ‘There is Nothing We Can’t Do!’  Obama Tells CIA.  Well, yes.  We can commit any crimes we wish.  We can assassinate anyone we want.  We can break any international laws we wish.  Especially if our leader, Netanyahu, orders us to do this.  Madness continues as our  Ambassador Is Hopeful About US Troop Deployment in Pakistan which is demented since  Pakistan Orders a Fifth of US Special Forces Trainers to Leave.  Even now, Pakistan doesn’t kick us entirely to the curb but that is coming in due time.  The Chinese gave Pakistan a gift of 50 fighter jets as a downpayment for future friendship.

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To punctuate what Obama meant at the CIA/Mossad headquarters, US Drone Strike Kills Four in Pakistan which caused this to happen:  Pakistan Official: NATO Tanker Blast Kills At Least 15. In Africa, Libyan ships destroyed by RAF jets.  The crews mostly died.  The ships were anchored.   This wasn’t done to protect civilians, it was done to stop Libya from defending itself.

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Now that Netanyahu has returned to the US to slap around the puppet in the White House, Obama has to help him cover up this domestic abuse so the U.S. denies allegations of ‘furious’ Clinton-Netanyahu exchange – Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News

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“(I’d) just say it was a frank and cordial exchange reflecting their close relationship,” Toner added. “I don’t want to get into what (the) press accounts may have been. … They discussed the speech and his (then) upcoming visit.”

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A senior Israeli official confirmed that the call took place, said he thought the conversation was helpful and that some revisions were made to Obama’s speech but declined to provide details or to confirm it was an angry exchange.

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Even with half of the speech rewritten, it was still enough to provoke a gorilla display of rage from our boss, Netanyahu.  He had to do this to scare off anyone thinking of doing things for America, not Israel.  It worked.  Since most of our media is working for him, not us, they almost all fell into line and joined him in punishing anyone suggesting sane solutions to the Middle East.  Now, he has to cover his tracks so Hillary has to pretend she didn’t argue futilely with him.
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Too bad, I wasn’t arguing with him.  Or Helen Thomas was arguing with him.  But then, we are anti-Zionists.  Zionism is fatal for Jews.  But since it gives them the right to commit rape, robbery and murder, they love it.  Anyone who gets the right to be criminals loves it!  When Stalin took over Russia, he found out, he could do as he pleased so naturally, he committed every possible crime including killing his own wife!
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Now that Obama has been put in his place by angry, obnoxious Jews slapping him silly, the Jews in Israel are now crowing that Obama demolished Palestinian chances for statehood – Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News
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The 1,500 new apartments in Jerusalem will be built, speech or no speech. The real test for that speech, as for any other, is what happens next, and the suspicion is that nothing will happen at all.

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Obama didn’t say a word about what will happen if the parties disobey him. This was the king’s speech, but the king already appears a little naked. Considering America’s weakness, and the power of Congress and the Jewish and Christian lobbies working on behalf of the Israeli government, the Israeli right wing can relax and go on doing what it does.

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Yesterday, the U.S. president demolished the Palestinian’s only accomplishment so far – the wave of international support for recognition of statehood in September. September died last night. After America, Europe too will have to withdraw its support; hopes have ended for a historically significant declaration at the United Nations.

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Oh my, talk about overreach!  Amazing, how arrogance erodes the brain!  The Jews hope that this final destruction of even the illusion of the US running this nation means there will never be anyone demanding that Israel’s Jews stop stealing stuff!  How insane is this????

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Does the utter humiliation of a US black President mean the UN will cease pushing for Israel to recognize Palestine?  Incredible.  The Jews hope that pressure on Europe’s leaders, making them also Israeli puppets, will lead towards victory in this struggle to be Nazis in Palestine.  Europe is on the verge of burning down.  Spain just outlawed all demonstrations and angry people are pouring into the streets, yelling, ‘We are Egyptians now!’

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Greece is in flames.  The Greek populace doesn’t love Israel and if the Jewish head of the IMF which is a target of much ire in Greece and Ireland thought that everyone there loved him, well, they don’t love him but it was forbidden to mention he was a Zionist.  In France, where he was running for office so he could be a Zionist running France, he pretended to be a ‘socialist’ but wasn’t really.  The plan was, for him to win and then always side with Netanyahu.  Yikes.

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The fact is, if you talk about Zionism, Naziism, race and religion in Europe you are ARRESTED.  This doesn’t mean people don’t think about this.  Europe has been turned into a Soviet state whereby the thought control police make certain no one can discuss issues of the day for fear they will be put in prison by the Jews.  This threat is creating great and rising rage that is nearly totally hidden from view but is very much there and certainly will blow up in the faces of the Jewish community.

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In the US, you simply are ‘disappeared’ if you discuss Zionism in a negative way.  But I notice when perusing comments in many mainstream media this week an interesting shift easily predicted: many, many people are very pissed that Israeli Jews get more and more money from Congress while we citizens are being told, we must do without Medicare and Social Security, for example.  Rage is definitely rising.  People may not care if all Palestinians died but they do care very much if all Americans are told, we must also die so that Israel may live.

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This emphatically includes our many wars with Muslims.  The promise of cheap oil has vaporized.  As oil traders on the Chicago exchange make Goldman Sachs richer, the US public is getting angrier and angrier.  And the premature burial of Palestinian UN hopes isn’t working:  Palestinians to push UN recognition bid in September despite Obama’s caution.  Obama actually stupidly told them to not go  to the UN!

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Far from fearing Obama, they, too, shove him aside.  If he works as the doorman to the White House, bowing and scraping as the Israeli Jews toss him their hats and coats, well, who on earth will listen to him?  No one!  Now, our real ruler is even pissed off that the NYT has allowed a Palestinian to give his point of view of history.  Remember: to all Jews, all history is about how they are persecuted, not also all the stupid things they may have done in the past especially in Germany after WWI:  Netanyahu blasts Abbas over ‘distorted’ Times op-ed – Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News

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Sources in the Prime Minister’s office had even harsher words. “One can only conclude from this article that Abbas has decided to turn his back on even pretending to be walking the road of peace, and instead chose the strategy of setting up a Palestinian state and then using this improved position to wage a diplomatic and legal war against Israel,” one source said. He stressed that while Israel remains committed to the two-state solution, “Abbas, sadly, chose a different path.”

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Officials in Netanyahu’s office went on to dissect the Abbas op-ed, pointing out various claims which they said were false. One point they stressed in particular was Abbas’s assertion that Palestinian refugees were the cause, rather than the result, of the war. They said that in more than one location, it was the Palestinian leaders who urged Palestinians to get out of the way of the advancing Arab armies.

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Here is the Jewish idea of a ‘land exchange’ with the natives of Palestine:
The contempt the Jews have for their victims is on full display.  This ridiculous ‘exchange’ they are most anxious to get their victims to sign must be done with US muscle.  We must twist their arms so they make a very bad deal.  So we get blamed.  Not the Jews.  This is horrible.  And it makes the US much weaker.  Why we wish to do this in the face of national destruction here at home is the key issue.  Will people recoil and set into motion a violent reaction?
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Of course!  For every action there has to be an equal reaction.  When the housing bubble burst, I said, it was so big and lasted for 5 years, the downside would be equally long and big and so it is!  No surprise.  In the case of Israel, victory means the destruction of international Jewish communities which will be seen as aliens and aggressors in whatever nation they live.  If they can take over and destroy the US, then why wait passively for them to destroy other nations, will be the thinking!
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The Jews know this!  But can’t help themselves, they think Israel will allow them to do as they please and if they only can take over the entire area there and wipe out the natives, they will have a powerful enclave that will allow them all to defy their home nations where they happen to live today.  I am all for ‘citizenship’ and lots of readers attacked me for talking about this.  I am against ethnic and religious enclaves which is why I do not adore the Tibetan Buddhists, for example, or any group wanting to kick out citizens who are not of their ‘group’: this is RACIAL FASCISM.
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I am against Zionists because it has turned Jews into racial fascists.  I believe in nations with total separation of religion and state and complete separation of ethnic identity and state.  The US has sponsored many a separation of state’s peoples because we cynically thought, this would make the US more powerful.  And the Jewish people support this because it excuses their own crimes.  Of course, the Palestinians are not allowed to fight for an ethnic state!
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And this is what is wrong!  This insane ideology of ‘all ethnic and religious people should NOT belong in nations that have more than one tribal or religious group’ is killing liberalism, too!  I see this mental infection all over the place.  Instead of fighting for civil laws that forbid the building of a state based only on ethnic/religious identity, we should be moving towards freedom of thought, freedom to intermix and the freedom to have many people cooperating in one country on behalf of one nation, uniting everyone under the rule of law!
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How has this died so thoroughly?  I am horrified.  Here is a close up map of Israel’s desire to have the Palestinians trapped in disarmed, disjointed enclaves surrounded by a racist Jewish state:
Think this won’t happen here???  Of course!  The desire here today is to have a future whereby the entire US is broken up into ethnic/religious enclaves.
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In the powerful ones, the people will have Medicare, Social Security, good schools, police protection, hospitals, etc.  In the poor enclaves, they will have to go through check points, they will be deported to countries their ancestors might have come from or if native American Indians, removed back to ‘reservations’ and of course, no social services at all.
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Yes, this is our future if we let the neonazi Jewish Zionists win here.  Liberal Jews will not stop this force if they don’t force Jews in Israel from turning themselves into Nazis.  And this means calling out the Jewish supporters of Naziism.  This means going after Netanyahu for being a Nazi.   A battle that must be fought.  For anyone can become a Nazi, all it requires is a hard heart and lots of greed and above all, a sense of being a victim even as one pounds someone into the pavement.

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42 Responses to Netanyahu Stomps Obama, Obama Apologizes

  1. BiBi better remember who the puppet is; Israel is a welfare state that could not exist without American taxpayers dollars. More and more Americans are against ALL foreign aid! Who’d your daddy now??

  2. CK

    Donna, Israel could do quite well without merkin donations, but since the merkins do donate, the Israelis use their own taxes for higher profit investments.
    When most americans go against aggressive foreign wars then there might be a change in the fatherhood issue; but until then, the US is Israel’s beoytch and both nations approve of the hump.

  3. Z

    “Obama has been shown to be weak, helpless and above all,” COMPLICIT!

    Z

  4. Alex Yam

    Thanks Elaine, it’s always interesting to read more about Israel, as we don’t often hear much about them.

    There are too many different versions of info and disinfo flying around, it’d be great Elaine, if you can share more with us on these matters.

    How did they end up in charge? Has it always been this way ever since the creation of the western banking system or did Europe somehow lose their grip half way?

  5. Dupree

    And BiBi’s excuse for not returning the stolen Palestine territories is that the “demographics have changed.”

    You really think that the dumb goyim see through this “good cop, bad cop schtick?”

  6. Dupree

    For while the Zionists try to make the rest of the world believe that the national consciousness of the Jew finds its satisfaction in the creation of a Palestinian state, the Jews again slyly dupe the dumb Goyim. It doesn’t even enter their heads to build up a Jewish state in Palestine for the purpose of living there; all they want is a central organization for their international world swindle, endowed with its own sovereign rights and removed from the intervention of other states: a haven for convicted scoundrels and a university for budding crooks.~A. Hitler

  7. Dupree

    That quote was from Chapter Ten of Mein Kampf

  8. Dupree

    And now for something completely different:
    Chaplin’s The Kid(with a cameo appearance by Joseph Stalin)

  9. Dupree

    Were it not for the behind the scenes work(bribes and blackmail)of the Wilson administration and Lord Balfour by Louis Brandeis, Felix Frankfurter and Ben Victor Cohen, America would have never entered WWI in violation of its own Monroe Doctrine.
    Cohen, Frankfurter, and Brandeis all showed up at the 1919 Paris Peace Conference as representatives of the Zionists with maps of the future Der Judenstaat in Palestine.

    Ben Victor Cohen and Frankfurter went on into the FDR administration humping for war with Germany. Cohen brokered the Lend Lease Act to arm the Brits and the Bolsheviks prior to WW2.

    Cohen also introduced plans that laid the foundations for the post WW2 so-called United Nations Charter creating the bandit state of Israel.

  10. Dupree

    Lindberg knew that the planes and guns were going to the Bolsheviks in the USSR.

    But the dumb goyim were content to be beguiled by Woody Guthrie.

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    ELAINE: Either we armed the Russians or we sat passive waiting for our doom? Good lord. WWII was one war we HAD to fight! No ifs, ands or buts.

  11. Dupree

    Woody fightin’ dem fascist down (in song, only).

  12. Hammerhead

    Dupree, nice to see someone extolling the virtues of Adolf Hitler, the man unfairly got such a bad rap.

    Although you probably want to be a bit more subtle about it in the future. Like our gracious hostess, who keeps hating Nazi-style on the Jews 24/7, but avoids displaying a swastika herself.

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    ELAINE: A Nazi is someone who believes in ethnic cleansing and looting. I think both are evil and I am 100% against these things. You can’t figure this out because you endorse Naziism.

  13. Dupree

    ELAINE: Either we armed the Russians or we sat passive waiting for our doom? Good lord. WWII was one war we HAD to fight! No ifs, ands or buts.

    Obviously, you haven’t read David Irving’s Hitler’s War?

    And probably won’t even bother.
    Why do you think de’ Joos use violence and cyber-attack his website to “tear him down?”

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    ELAINE: Hitler was obviously evil from the get go since he endorsed active ethnic cleansing, enslaving people, looting and elimination of the mentally ill, just for starters. Once he began invading neighbors, he became a menace to EVERYONE. And when he began sinking our ships at sea, we should have gone to war only the US was reluctant due to WWI’s ravages.

  14. Dupree

    What’s the problem with displaying ancient Nordic runes, Hammerhead? You gotta’ Star of David tattoed on your chest?

    Hitler responds to FDR’s telegram:Quite the standup comedian.

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    ELAINE: Hitler, like any demented ruler, loves to ‘make fun’ of people just like our top people did this to say, bin Laden (accusing him of looking at porn, for example, while our leaders roll in porn). The Nazis were pure, total, utter evil which is why I am so alarmed that the mainstream Jewish community has become very much like the Nazis.

  15. Hammerhead

    Dupree my good man, a swastika is not “ancient Nordic runes”. Actually it’s a symbol that comes from the Hindu religion, although it is indeed ancient. Your Fuehrer appropriated it but he got it mirror-reversed.

    In any case thank you, again, for kindly posting for us the excerpt from Mein Kampf, thus demonstrating convincingly the perfect match between Elaine’s writing and the writing of Der Fuehrer.

  16. emsnews

    It was also in Nordic lands long, long, long ago. It is a lightning god symbol of ancient lineage going back to nearly the last Ice Age.

  17. emsnews

    Whenever I attack Naziism, I am accused of being a Nazi because I want to stop Israel’s Jews from acting like Hitler. This baffles me since I make it totally clear, I hate the beliefs of national socialism which is all about social services for some elite group that is superior to slaves which surround them.

    I find this to be a most odious belief system and Zionism has aped Naziism. And there is NOTHING good or noble about the Nazi Germans. Nothing at all. They were CRIMINALS. Which means, of course, Zionists are also criminals. Which is why Israel is terrified of international courts going after them for war crimes.

  18. Dupree

    In Germany’s Declaration of War against the United States on 11DEC1941, note the date that FDR ordered US forces to attack German war vessels in international waters…the date that Lindberg gave his “peace speech” in Des Moines, Iowa and the date that formal ground-breaking ceremonies were held in DC for the construction of the Pentagon:11SEPT1941
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    The German Charg d’Affaires, Dr. Hans Thomsen, and the First Secretary of the German Embassy, Mr. von Strempel, called at the State Department at 8:00 A.M. on December 11, 1941. The Secretary, otherwise engaged, directed that they be received by the Chief of the European Division of the State Department, Mr. Ray Atherton. Mr. Atherton received the German representatives at 9:30 A.M.

    The German representatives handed to Mr. Atherton a copy of a note that is being delivered this morning, December 11, to the American Charg d’Affaires in Berlin. Dr. Thomsen said that Germany considers herself in a state of war with the United States. He asked that the appropriate measures be taken for the departure of himself, the members of the German Embassy, and his staff in this country. He reminded Mr. Atherton that the German Government had previously expressed its willingness to grant the same treatment to American press correspondents in Germany as that accorded the American official staff on a reciprocal basis and added that he assumed that the departure of other American citizens from Germany would be permitted on the same basis of German citizens desiring to leave this country. He referred to the exchange of civilians that had been arranged at the time Great Britain and Germany broke off diplomatic relations.

    The German Charg d’Affaires then stated that the Swiss Government would take over German interests in this country and that Dr. Bruggmann had already received appropriate instructions from his Government.

    He then handed Mr. Atherton a note from the German Government. Mr. Atherton stated that in accepting this note from the German Charg d’Affaires he was merely formalizing the realization that the Government and people of this country had faced since the outbreak of the war in 1939 of the threat and purposes of the German Government and the Nazi regime toward this hemisphere and our free American civilization.

    Mr. Atherton then said that this Government would arrange for the delivery of Dr. Thomsen’s passports and that he assumed that we would very shortly be in communication with the Swiss Minister. He added that Dr. Thomsen must realize, however, that the physical difficulties of the situation would demand a certain amount of time in working out this reciprocal arrangement for the departure of the missions of the two countries. The German representatives then took their leave.

    The text of the note which the German representatives handed to Mr. Ray Atherton, Chief of the European Division of the State Department, at 9:30 A.M., December 11, the original of which had been delivered the morning of December 11 to the American Charg d’Affaires in Berlin, follows:
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    MR. CHARG D’AFFAIRES:

    The Government of the United States having violated in the most flagrant manner and in ever increasing measure all rules of neutrality in favor of the adversaries of Germany and having continually been guilty of the most severe provocations toward Germany ever since the outbreak of the European war, provoked by the British declaration of war against Germany on September 3, 1939, has finally resorted to open military acts of aggression.

    On September 11, 1941, the President of the United States publicly declared that he had ordered the American Navy and Air Force to shoot on sight at any German war vessel. In his speech of October 27, 1941, he once more expressly affirmed that this order was in force. Acting under this order, vessels of the American Navy, since early September 1941, have systematically attacked German naval forces. Thus, American destroyers, as for instance the Greer, the Kearney and the Reuben James, have opened fire on German sub-marines according to plan. The Secretary of the American Navy, Mr. Knox, himself confirmed that-American destroyers attacked German submarines.

    Furthermore, the naval forces of the United States, under order of their Government and contrary to international law have treated and seized German merchant vessels on the high seas as enemy ships.

    The German Government therefore establishes the following facts:

    Although Germany on her part has strictly adhered to the rules of international law in her relations with the United States during every period of the present war, the Government of the United States from initial violations of neutrality has finally proceeded to open acts of war against Germany. The Government of the United States has thereby virtually created a state of war.

    The German Government, consequently, discontinues diplomatic relations with the United States of America and declares that under these circumstances brought about by President Roosevelt Germany too, as from today, considers herself as being in a state of war with the United States of America.

    Accept, Mr. Charge d’Affaires, the expression of my high consideration.

    December 11, 1941.

    RIBBENTROP
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    ELAINE: German war ships and subs were sinking civilian ships owned by the US.

  19. Hammerhead

    I much prefer the old-school Nazis like Dupree to the new breed like Elaine.

    At least Dupree has the courage of his conviction. Whereas Elaine pretends not to be the Hitler-like Jew hater that she is — while carrying on Der Fuehrer’s tradition faithfully.

    I guess it’s simply a matter of marketing. The American Nazi Party in its various incarnations has proven, time and again, to be a bunch of laughable shaven-headed losers who quickly ended up murdering each other.

    Maintaining the flimsiest of pretenses and keeping the overt Nazi regalia off the website serves the purpose of allowing her readers to have their cake and eat it, too.

    NEW !! AND IMPROVED JEW-HATRED !! LESS FILLING !! AND GUILT-FREE !!

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    ELAINE: One of the most curious facets of Zionism is the utter blindness about Naziism. Jewish Zionists are fixated on the evils of Hitler yet don’t even have the slightest clue what these utter evils are as Jews ape Hitler.

  20. Dupree

    Maintaining the flimsiest of pretenses and keeping the overt Nazi regalia off the website serves the purpose of allowing her readers to have their cake and eat it, too.~Hammerhead

    God forbid they take our music off the web, too!

  21. DeVaul

    You do not have to agree with Nazi Germany or Hitler’s behavior to believe that Roosevelt and a small gang of bankers wanted war with Germany against the will of the majority of American citizens.

    If Germany was really sinking US passenger ships (not secret arms shipments using passengers as human shields), we could simply have declared war on them, but Roosevelt could not do that without risking impeachment and exposure of his secret plans.

    There was no obligation on our part to police the world back then anymore than there is now. Many American lives were lost because bankers wanted their loans repaid from a defeated France. As for Japan, you can only provoke another country so far until it assumes you want war, and then you get it.

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    ELAINE: The Nazi subs were sinking ships carrying food, for example. Totally wrong and a cause for war.

  22. Ali

    I really don’t anything I’ve read here points to Elaine being a Nazi.
    I myself was brought to tears as a child when I saw the ww2 documentaries where you see emaciated people being herded into gas chambers. I looked at it as people like me (minorities) being abused. The problem now is that you have lots of Muslims (like me) being abused by Jews and Christians. The Muslims never did anything against the jews yet we have incurred their wrath for reasons unknown.
    When the Europeans return to their favourite passtime(ethnic cleansing – I point to the unparalleled violence of European history), the Muslims can all return to their lands for safety. Where will the Jewish diaspora hide? Israel? About 6 million Jews living in the middle of 1 billion Muslims. Good luck. Lets hope the Muslims can find forgiveness in their hearts. I’m not sure the Palestinians will.

  23. Dupree

    ELAINE: The Nazi subs were sinking ships carrying food, for example. Totally wrong and a cause for war.

    A state of war existed between Britain and Germany and Germany’s naval blocade was “legitimate” under international maritime law. FDR’s jewish commissar, Ben Victor Cohen, created the framework for the Lend Lease Act that authorized the US to send contraband to waring parties at war with Germany thus violating its “neutrality.” Still, Germany did not act until its official declaration of war on 11DEC1941.

    http://www.historians.org/projects/giroundtable/Lend_Lease/LendLease2.htm

  24. Dupree

    So, you New Yorkers were supplying the killing machines of Stalin’s Red Army?

    http://lend-lease.airforce.ru/english/articles/sheppard/p39/index.htm

  25. Dupree

    An interesting sidenote to the matter of international maritime law and “neutrality”is the precedent-setting case of Captain Raphael Semmes’ Confederate raider the CSS Alabama. The Alabama was built in Liverpool as a “raider” to interdict shipping to Northern ports and to destroy Union vessels that were maintaing an economic blockade around the Southern ports from which cotton was being shipped to England and France.

    Captain Semmes and the Alabama sank over sixty Union naval vessels in its two years afloat, and after the War, international maritime officials ruled that Britain violated the neutrality act by allowing the building of the Alabama and were forced to pay damages for the loss of the Union naval vessels.

  26. DeVaul

    A “cause for war” does not necessarily mean an entire nation should be “tricked” into a war. Let the people decide if they want to go to war over the sinking of supply ships, but don’t set-up 5,000 sailors for a sneak attack by a Japanese fleet whose whereabouts were known by Roosevelt and Marshal, and whose ships were deliberately docked in the same style as those at Taranto, Italy.

    This is why several admirals refused the job at Pearl Harbor until one agreed to park them like sitting ducks. Every admiral knew what had happened to the Italian fleet only a few months before at the hands of 21 WW I biplanes. Check it out:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Taranto

  27. Dupree

    DeVaul~
    I see that you have been reading some of those WW2 “revisionist” books. I, too, took great interest in the books by Flynn, Barnes, Beard, Morgenstern, Tansill, Sanbourn ..etal. after spending a tour in Libya and Ethiopia back in the early sixties.
    I still have them “salted” (calcium chloride)away in 40 mm. ammo cans, and bring them out ever so often to refresh my memories.I was in Libya shortly after Patrice Lumumba’s torture and murder in the Congo. The Arabs told me then that Ike had given the order for his murder, but I never could confirm the allegation until I saw the YouTube interview with DIA agent Larry Devlin, confirming Ike’s personal order to have him murdered. I learned a lot about US duplicity
    and complicity against the peoples of Africa and the Middle East during my tour. Still this “unfreconstructed Southerner” never found these action “kosher” or in the best interests of the United States.

    http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v11/v11p431_Lutton.html

  28. Dupree

    At 5:25 into the Larry Devlin interview, the plot to murder Lumumba is discussed.

    After Killary and Obama “liquidate” Khaddafi, sparsely populated Libya, with its long coastline, shallow waters, oil refineries and fossil water from Khaddafi’s Great Man Made Lake, will become General Ward’ AFRICOM’s beachhead for the attacks and invasion of Central Africa all the way from Somalia to Burundi.

  29. Dupree

    I myself was brought to tears as a child when I saw the ww2 documentaries where you see emaciated people being herded into gas chambers.

    Could they have been “disinfecting showers” that the ICRC corroborates were employed to fight the typhus epidemic rampant in the camps after the Allied carpet bombing of Germany’s transportation system and infrastructure?

    Ali, you’ve been duped.

  30. emsnews

    My father was there in March/April of 1945 and he saw first hand Nazi death atrocities and he testified at the Nuremberg trials.

    YES, the Nazis did all the crappy things they were accused of doing! They were HORRIBLE which is why I hate Nazis and hate anyone who apes them.

  31. emsnews

    And the Nazis caused diseases in these crowded death camps, not kept them clean at all any more than the Israelis try to help Gaza clean up its sewers they bombed several times.

  32. Dupree

    My father was there in March/April of 1945 and he saw first hand Nazi death atrocities and he testified at the Nuremberg trials.~

    Did your father determine the manner of death these Auschwitz inmates that your father witnessed? More inmates of Auschwitz died under occupation by the Soviets than died under German auspicies.

    Zyklon-B is a pesticide.

  33. emsnews

    He was one of the first Americans to enter several death camps including the ones where the rockets were being manufactured. In one camp, he had to have the people with him cut down the bodies of Jews strung up by the necks with barbed wire across the entrance to one of the Jena tunnels, for example! He SAW IT. CLOSE UP. IT WAS HIDEOUS.

  34. Dupree

    Yes, Elaine, collective punishment and reprisal killings were horrible responses that uniformed soldiers–and the Allies did the same– practiced when engaging paramilitary armies in the occupied territories. However, under the Geneva Convention of that time,reprisal executions were “legal” and were designed to protect the civilian non-combatants.
    The Geneva Conventions were revised in 1947 and “outlawed” reprisal killings, although Israel and the US continue these banned practices in their occupied killing fields around the world. If my memory is correct, the GC protocols put a limit on the number of reprisal killings to a threshold of 25:1, i.e., twenty-five “innocent” civilians to one dead uniformed soldier killed by a non-uniformed combatant. The term “terrorist” was not used at that time, except for the “terror bombing” term that Churchill used in describing the carpet bombing of German civilian housing.

    Did your father ever admit to participating in any of the torture of German soldiers and civilians that occurred during the occupation?

  35. emsnews

    The Germans were lucky they were not annihilated. The US, far from being hated when we won WWII, was very much loved…for about three years. Then, the Cold War took over and the US sided with anti-social services dictators and had to fight off communism while not offering much hope for people suffering from poverty.

    The thing we finally did was let everyone import to the US and this way, give their people money and jobs. But this ended up killing our economy.

    As for torture: I met a number of former Nazis while in Germany and they all praised my father for treating them fairly.

  36. emsnews

    The Russians had zero cause to be nice to these Nazis, by the way, the Nazis didn’t invade and destroy America, they did do this to Russia.

  37. Dupree

    The Russians had zero cause to be nice to these Nazis, by the way, the Nazis didn’t invade and destroy America, they did do this to Russia.

    German military historian,Joachim Hoffma, explains why there was an Operation Barbarossa in his book, Stalin’s War of Extermination:Planning,Realization and Documentation.

    What do you think Stalin’s intentions were with all those war materials that Ben Victor Cohen’s Lend Lease was sending over to the Red Army? Finland was just a stepping stone to Stalin’s planned invasion of Europe in the fall of 1941.

    Germany had good “intelligence” on the machinations of Britain ans America on the Western Front, but was clueless as to the war resources of the Red Army.

    And thanks for not banning my posts.
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/product-reviews/0967985684

  38. Dupree

    One can spend time in prison in NWO Germany for even discussing these matters, not because
    of the German people, but because of the Draconian measures put into law by the occupying Americans, in particular. Just ask David Irving and Ernst Zundell.

    {SNIP}
    135,000 to 140,000

    Source: This is an estimate based on documents held by the International Tracing Service of the Red Cross. It is known that International Tracing Service has a complete set of registration documents. This is thought to include a complete set of roll-call data which includes twice daily tallies of those who died. Although the International Tracing Service of the Red Cross has such records, they have never officially published an accurate count of those who died, or even an accurate report as to exactly which documents they hold. However, totals from these records have been obtained by various interested parties.
    The estimate of 135,500 is roughly corroborated by the “Auschwitz death books.” The death books themselves are wartime German camp records, which were captured by the Soviets towards the end of the war, and hidden in Soviet achieves, until released to the Red Cross in 1989.

    The death books consist of 46 volumes which document each death at Auschwitz (each death certificate consists of the deceased person’s full name, profession and religion, date and place of birth, pre- Auschwitz residence, parents’ names, time of death, and cause of death as determined by a camp physician). The records for the most important years, 1942 and 1943, are almost complete (there are also a few volumes for the year 1941, but none for the year 1944 or January 1945 (when Auschwitz was evacuated)).

    The Auschwitz death books contain the death certificates of some 69,000 individuals, of whom about 30,000 were listed as Jews. You may view various entries in the Auschwitz Death Books by clicking on links to the Auschwitz museum.

    The Grand Total?

    Using all available wartime records from the various camps it has been estimated that between 400,000 and 500,000 people died in the entire German concentration camp system (from all causes).

    _____
    http://www.rense.com/general62/auch.htm

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