The most recent Carnival Cruise disaster is a great analogy to what is happening in general to the US population. We are aboard the United States Carnival Cruise To Hell and the ship is running out of power and is becoming a plague ship as Feces, water reported on floor of disabled Carnival cruise ship in Gulf of Mexico. But the owners of this ship claim Conditions on Disabled Cruise Ship in Dispute and they are taking good care of the people imprisoned on this slow boat to Alabama.
The US is the same thing as this ship. It is a ‘consumer economy’ which produces much less than it consumes and thus runs very deep in the red. Carnival Cruise lines is running in the red, too, and to pay for this they skimp on maintenance. Like in the US today. The passengers who party on board suddenly find their money is worthless because there is nothing to buy or use and since energy runs these systems and the energy is gone, their money is worthless and they are now in Dante’s Hell rather than Pleasure Island for Bad Boys (Pinocchio).
The passengers report six hour lines to be fed foul food and acts of desperation and aggression as well as great discomfort and general ennui as there is little to do except watch sewage flow across the floor. All the cruise ships are registered in tax havens overseas and are totally ‘offshore’ entities like much of our banking system and manufacturing power. This way, no one regulates them, they do as they please and they provide dangerous or shoddy services with impunity while most of the staff running these ships are ‘illegal aliens’ that is, ‘poor people from third world countries desperate for work’.
A comment at this Brit news site caught my eye: Carnival Triumph: CEO Micky Arison takes in basketball game as thousands suffer | Mail Online
Lawyer John Arthur Eaves, a Jackson, Miss.-based attorney isn’t surprised that the same ship seized by the district court in Galveston, Texas, nearly a year ago based on Carnival Cruise Lines’ lack of compliance to standards regarding on-board safety and procedures aimed at preserving the lives of passengers and crew is now adrift in the Golf of Mexico.
On request of the Law Offices of John Arthur Eaves, police had seized the Carnival Triumph in the port of Galveston, Texas, on March 29, 2012. “We seized this exact ship to make Americans aware the same inadequate standards that caused the sinking of the Costa Concordia are the same problems on every Carnival cruise vessel,” Eaves said. “How ironic is it the Triumph is the ship we seized to make this point?”
Eaves maintains Carnival continues to put profits over passenger safety. “We call this greed, and the only way to remedy this is to close the loopholes in the law and hold the company accountable” says John Arthur Eaves
All these loopholes exist thanks to bribes paid to Congress people. Especially the GOP in Florida. These cruise lines pretend to be American corporations with fancy buildings in the US but they are foreign entities which have written rules so they are totally outlaw operations that have no oversight what so ever in the US. I said in the past, they should fly pirate flags.
Virtually no news stories in the US talk about the fact this ship was seized last year in response to Carnival Cruise Lines abuse of passengers leading to them dying. Here is a site I visited last year during the Italian crash news days which is about the legal ramifications of maritime laws:
Passenger Rights : Cruise Law News
Ms. Wooldridge goes so far as to suggest that the recent safety proposals of having safety drills before cruising, keeping strangers out of the bridge and other long overdue basic practices may “eliminate such incidents altogether.”
Now I am accustomed to delusional puff pieces like this from travel publication editors (Mr. Woolridge is also editor of Travel + Leisure). The most notorious pro-cruise puff pieces come from cruise cheerleader Carolyn Spencer-Brown, who is editor of the Expedia/Travel Advisor owned Cruise Critic publication. She loves to say that cruising is “absolutely safe.”
The truth is that there have been far more deaths on cruise ships over the course of the past five years than other forms of major transportation. The U.S. based commercial aviation industry is remarkably safe. The airlines had strict pre-flight checklists and safety procedures 50 years ago. And needless to say, the aviation industry never let the pilot’s girlfriends hang out in the cockpit or permit jets to buzz towns for fun.
Cruise lines also have a major problem with crimes committed by employees and drunk passengers against women and children. The chance of being raped on a cruise is twice that of being raped ashore. Airlines, railroads and buses simply do not have these types of problems.
Airlines are trying desperately to be increasingly like the cruise lines. Offshore, regulated by third world countries, cheap labor, poor sanitation, etc. is their goal. Thanks to deregulation, the standards fall rapidly but this makes for cheaper business and thus is quite profitable. The fall in standards leads to dangerous accidents and poor service but then, much of airline travel resembles more like cattle car train transport these days.
The courts determine whether a cruise line is legally responsible to a passenger by reviewing the terms of the passenger ticket. I saw one judge literally pull out a magnifying glass to read the fine print buried in the ticket. The passenger invariably loses when this occurs, which is not surprising. The cruise lines have spent considerable effort drafting language which protects them from virtually every imaginable situation. The exception is when a passenger has been injured or assaulted – there is a federal statute which prohibits cruise lines from limiting their liability in these circumstances. However, this exception may not apply if the cruise ship does not call on a U.S. port.
Cruise lines reserve the right to change their itineraries at their discretion. Do passengers have any right to compensation or a refund (other than port charges) if such a change is made?
No, based on the “fine print” in the ticket. For example, Royal Caribbean’s language says that it “may at any time and without prior notice cancel, advance, postpone or deviate from any scheduled sailing or port of call.” As a public relations gesture, some cruise lines offer $100 or so for missing a port. But this is dependent entirely on the cruise line; they hold all of the cards in these type of situations.
The cruise line people have to have ports of call in the US to pick up passengers but if they could void this by say, building a port just offshore and claiming it is foreign territory, they will do this is too many people sue them. The main point here is, jurisdiction is removed from our own system and this is passively assented by Congress which has been steadily allowing all of our business and affairs to be transferred offshore for corporate profits.
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One of my first thoughts was anyone who goes on these cruises deserves what they get.What kind of entertainment is this?
I also used to( past tense not any more) wonder why they did not have separate engine and genset compartments for redundancy purposes.A separate genset system could provide water and air conditioning plus a small amount of motive power to keep the ship from drifting unto the rocks.This would cost money of course!Most of the time the main engines and gensets get taken out by the same thing.
Just think of having an inside cabin with no windows ,no toilet, and no air conditioning, as your cruse ship drifts about the shipping lanes in the dark!
What an adventure!
Is the captain still onboard?
Or did he stumple into a lifeboat?
Vada a bordo cazzo.
Will the cruise ship owner reimburse the American taxpayers for saving another one of his ships? Somehow I doubt it.
Ambulances send bills to the families of dead men who died waiting for an ambulance to arrive because no one was at work, but I have never read of a Coast Guard bill to a cruise ship line for rescuing it at sea after it endangered thousands of lives through reckless neglect of maritime laws.
I am really tired of rescuing cruise ship partiers, mountain climbers, bungee jumpers, private plane hobbyists, yachters, sky divers, around the world teenage sailors, hot air balloonists, polar expeditions, extreme hikers, and every other person who does not have a scrap of common sense.
Our country is a joke to the rest of the world.
News item: Roof collapses at Chernobyl nuclear plant: Ukraine
Here’s an excerpt from the above news article:
“However the spokeswoman for the Chernobyl plant, Maya Rudenko, dismissed Greenpeace’s concerns and said that the existing sarcophagus had been strengthened from 2004-2008 and could last until 2023.
“There is absolutely no risk,” she said.”
See? Lying has become second nature to most of the world now. It’s like we cannot even exist without absolutely no lying.
From a purely engineering standpoint, though, the cruise ships are incredible. Designing and building those things would be sort of fascinating. A hell of a lot better than customer service at Walmart, I think.
I doubt Carnival will treat their customers fairly! We were on a Carnival ship a few years ago that bottomed out while docking at Nassau. They left without even letting us off the ship, we missed a entire leg of the cruise. They gave every passanger $50. Lesson – Dont cruise carnival!
Will the cruise ship owner reimburse the American taxpayers for saving another one of his ships?
good point!
Off topic….Elaine..
see this pic of Rand Paul…gees
http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2013/02/the-end-of-the-world-news-feb-12-2013/#more-17868
Great post, Elaine
Even if it’s a terrible experience for those on the boat, it does make me laugh and the analogy is perfect. The most fundamental problems with our deregulated system is that those on the top echelon believe they deserve to make 400% or more–why not 1000% more than their workers. In the 1960′s it was 40% and we had a great economy. This model with it’s globalism and deregulation is a disaster. Those above the law get their hands slapped and us little folk get the book thrown at us. Some guy on NPR complained to the police about a cop and was threatened with 18 months in jail. That’s what I call a failed state.
Yes, indeed the American dream is turning into a nightmare.
Yesterday I was told of a global financial board and I think you all should be very interested. It is why our govt. really doesn’t have the control of our economy in any real sovereign way anymore: It’s a real neoliberal nightmare and I think it goes by the Margaret Thatcherism: TINA: There are no alternatives…..Check it out…
http://www.financialstabilityboard.org/
Stuck on a cruise ship in the Caribbean for a few days, without any real danger to life or limb? Wow, what a disaster. – If only those people knew how refugee boats are being dealt with: http://andreasmoser.wordpress.com/2012/01/16/how-europe-welcomes-refugees/
“One of my first thoughts was anyone who goes on these cruises deserves what they get.What kind of entertainment is this?”
Couldn’t agree more. Why anyone wants to be cooped up on a ship for days or weeks with what amounts to the entire population of a small town is beyond me.
“Lying has become second nature to most of the world now. It’s like we cannot even exist without absolutely no lying.”
Yes. I just automatically assume that if anyone’s lips are moving these days, they’re lying. I’m talking even friends, family, everyone. It’s a sad place we’ve come to.
Humans do NOT thrive on truth, our brains are wired to view things through rose colored glasses and the ability to lie is a SURVIVAL SKILL bred into us by a million years of being crazy cannibals who killed animals and each other to stay alive.
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“Humans do NOT thrive on truth…”
I quite disagree. Lying is the root of all Catch-22s. The more we lie the crazier we get, the crazier we get the more we suffer. The more we suffer the more we lie to ourselves and to others in order not to suffer… Just stop lying and you won’t need rose colored glasses. We DO in fact thrive on truth, only the crazy liars can’t have that… because they live in a web of lies (delusions) spun by themselves and they’d rather destroy the truth than feel threatened by it.
That is why we are fed bullshit by the egomaniacs and sociopaths at the top. They base their whole existence on backstabbing others through lies in order to gain more for themselves.
Too many lies is the reason the US is going completely bananas and sliding more and more towards a Banana Republic by the day.
I agree with what Christian W just said. It is the incessant lying that drives us insane. Humans can actually deal with quite a load of shit, but not if it arrives under a mountain of lies. That is too much.
There was a time when men either spoke the truth or said nothing. The option of saying “nothing” seems to have evolved into something like “must tell a lie — no other choice”.
I seriously doubt people lie to themselves when they eat another human being. What do they say? This is really a pig? It’s an alien?
The distant past may have been cruel, brutal and short, but it just was not filled with incessant lying. There was no need for it.
Any act of moral depravity, including rape and murder, can be characterized as an evolutionarily sanctioned survival skill, justified under some such philosophy as “the ends justify the means” or “do what thy wilt shall be the whole of the law”.
Andreas, are you Anti White?
Linking to a poem by racist Emma, who wanted all White countries multi cult, but an all jew homeland for her tribe [no surprise there].
Do you know the truth about the statue? And that it has nothing to do with immigration?
linking to this sht..gees:
Tale of Two Ships: How Europe welcomes Refugees
Posted on 16 January 2012 by Andreas Moser
“Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”
Emma Lazarus: The New Colossus (engraved on a plaque inside the Statute of Liberty)
Unfortunately that dreadful poem was, many years after the gift from France, that poem was stuck on it.