The Enola-Guy Quakes Frightens Arkansas

..At CNN is an interesting story about a cluster of earthquakes in Arkansas.  It is, as per usual, a poorly researched story that has some impact on how we will do things in the future since the good people in this small village think their problems are due to hydro fracting for gas.  It appears to me to be a symptom of something far more dangerous.  That is, this area in the US is prone to extremely violent earthquakes.  Geologists still struggle to understand why the center of the US is subsiding.  What causes this is an important geological riddle.  

 

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ΩΩThe Geological Society in Arkansas has a good map showing the elevations in the Mississippi watershed system.  The The neighboring hills move most of the water that falls in the form or rain towards the west, not the east.  The clusters of micro earthquakes are in these hills, not in the valley of this great river.  The New Madrid quake was in the valley.  Are these events connected in some fashion?  Central Arkansas growing weary of relentless tremors – CNN.com

  • Guy, Arkansas:  More than 500 measurable earthquakes have been reported in central Arkansas since September 20, ranging in magnitude from a barely noticeable 1.8 to a very noticeable 4.0 (recorded on October 11), according to the U.S. Geological Survey. Geologists can’t say whether they’ll stop anytime soon….Although drilling for natural gas has been ruled out as a cause for the quakes, experts want to continue looking at salt water disposal wells, said Scott Ausbrooks, geohazards supervisor for the Geological Survey.

 

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ΩΩThe geologists know pretty much what is going on here as far as the fact that there are earthquakes should not surprise them.  This is not a new thing in this particular geological position.  I had to spend an hour searching for information, that is, DATA, to see what is going on and I found some interesting aspects we should consider before throwing the book at the drillers.  By the way, I am against injecting water wastes into the earth in this region for good reasons not connected with this cluster of quakes.  First, the data:  AGS: Earthquakes

..So, yes, there are a cluster of quakes around Roy, Arkansas according to the geological survey people.  But do note that this week, there have been some all over Arkansas!  Quite a few, in deed, very near the epicenter area of the New Madrid quake.  Arkansas isn’t a geologically ‘dead’ area, it is quite active.  So active, it even has hot springs just like volcanic islands such as Japan!  FDR used to vacation in Hot Springs, Arkansas, for example.  As we see in the map here, Hot Springs is just southwest of Little Rock.

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ΩΩHere is an older map, unlike the one above which is from this week.  This map was made in 2007, before the recent earthquake cluster.  Note that this map has an earthquake cluster in the same vicinity as today’s rash of quakes:  http://www.geology.ar.gov/maps_pdf/geohazards/Arkansas_Seismicity_Map.pdf

..There is a rough line of quakes in the New Madrid area.  That is, if this map showed neighboring states, this line of earthquakes would go up into Tennessee and Iowa.  Scattered about the upper half of Arkansas are many micro-quakes.  But the cluster here is mostly from one time period: 1982.  Here is some more data:   AGS: Earthquakes

 

  • The Enola swarm was initiated by a magnitude 1.2 earthquake recorded on January 12, 1982 near the town of Enola in Faulkner County, Arkansas. Since then, over 40,000 seismic events have been recorded in the Enola area. Most of the recorded seismic events are microquakes, but at least 93 earthquakes have been felt in the local area by at least one person during the first year of seismic activity. Earthquake magnitudes have not exceeded a 4.5, which occurred on Jan. 21, 1982. No structural damage has ever occurred, although there have been reports of broken china.

 

  • This map represents only a small sampling of seismic events that have occurred in the Enola swarm area since 1982. Events that are more recent include a magnitude 4.4 on May 4, 2001 followed by aftershocks greater than magnitude 2.0 over several days. Approximately 2,500 seismic events were recorded in 2001 on a portable seismic network. The most recent seismic event was a magnitude 2.8 on October 17, 2006.

..Suddenly, in 1982, the town of Enola began to shake.  This shaking hasn’t stopped.  In has been punctuated by a 4.4 event that happened about a decade ago.  But since 2006, it has been rather quiet.  In Enola, that is.  The above map shows how close these two communities are, Enola is less than 25 miles away as the crow flies.

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ΩΩAll the way from the Gulf of Mexico to the Great Lakes lies a hidden geological world that is very ancient, that is, it is a series of Precambrian Rift Basins of Eastern North America.  The longest time era of earth is the pre-Cambrian era.  This is around 85% of the time this planet has existed. During a good part of this time, life forms were microscopic in nature and were very diffuse as well as unimaginably huge in volume.  So huge, the skeletal remains of these very tiny creatures formed huge land masses of chalk, limestone, marble, etc.  The map below is from the link in this paragraph:

..Over the last 3 billion years, the geology of the Mississippi watershed system opened and closed more than once.  That is, as various other continents collided with the North American continent, this section was squeezed and when the continent moved away from other landmasses, it would stretch and subside.  When the Allegheny and Catskill mountains were formed, they were as high as probably the Himalayan mountains or the Sierra Nevadas today but since there was no life on land, they wore down very rapidly.  What we see today are the worn remains of these once-great mountains.

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ΩΩThe fracturing and squeezing of the pre-Cambrian landscape in the middle of the continent means it is quite complex as well as fundamentally weak in key points.  That is, the fractures from when the lands were squeezed in the past still exist today.  And as the land continues to subside as the continent sails blissfully westwards as the Atlantic rift opens wider and wider, there is considerable jiggling in the middle for one simple reason: as the continent slides into various Pacific and related plates which are all moving northwards, this puts lots of pressure on the west coast of the continent and this is causing rapid mountain building in the West, thus, the Rockies and other mountain ranges as well as volcanoes, etc.

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ΩΩSo we have a weird situation with the Mississippi Valley subsiding on the east side while being squeezed on the west side of the valley.  This valley is filled with sediment from glaciers in the Ice Ages as well as wind blown dirt from dry periods in the earth’s history (nearly all of which were not during warm cycles but rather, cold cycles!  Please do note this!).

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ΩΩHere is a cross section of this area in Arkansas and Tennessee:  Cross section of the Rough Creek Graben

..Note how the pre-Cambrian foundation which is the part that sits on the Mantle, that is, under this lies some hot stuff, there is the Rough Creek Fault Zone.  This break shows clearly a very old collapse of the earth’s crust.  This is why there is this big fill of pre-Knox material.  So one must deduce, this collapse happened roughly before 300 million  years ago.

 

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ΩΩHere is some information about this depression (‘Graben’ is German for grave or a ditch).  From a paper written 30 years ago:   Rough Creek Graben

 

  • The Rough Creek Graben is one of a number of Cambrian rift grabens in eastern North America. The graben is an asymmetric basin containing up to 18,000 feet of pre-Knox Cambrian sedimentary fill near its northern boundary, the Rough Creek Fault Zone. The basin may be an important target for deep natural gas in the future.

 

  • Most of the pre-Knox oil and gas drilling has been near the northern boundary fault. The fault zone, however, is known to have been reactivated at least twice since its initial formation in the Cambrian; once during the Ouachita orogeny, when high-angle reverse faulting took place, and again during the Jurassic, with normal faulting as the Gulf of Mexico began to open. The past exploration strategies are questionable in that the reservoirs near the boundary fault are certainly breached as evidenced by the long history of fault reactivation.

 

  • There is strong seismic evidence that the Rough Creek Graben has basin-floor fan complexes that could be excellent hydrocarbon reservoirs, as they are in many parts of the world.

 

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ΩΩThere is this energy gold rush going on all over the US today.  Throughout the areas highlighted in the map showing the many complex rift systems in the central US there is frantic drilling going on as people hunt for natural gas.  What this paper says is, many places where natural gas would have been likely are probably blown out already by two major earthquakes back first when life began to colonize dry land and then again, during the dinosaur era.

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ΩΩNonetheless, there is still quite a bit of gas trapped underground which will eventually be tapped.  How responsibly we do this is still open to question.  Generally speaking, geological rushes for mineral or energy wealth is very mess and very polluting.  But in the case of these quakes in Arkansas, I don’t think the energy exploiters are causing these quakes.  They are natural and a current reminder about how unstable this area is.  It is probably ten times more dangerous than the San Andreas fault which is very dangerous but doesn’t cause major rivers to reverse flow or suddenly drop hundreds of square miles into a much lower elevation, causing sudden floods on top of the fact that the New Madrid quake was felt a thousand miles away.

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ΩΩHere is a map I drew several years ago showing the rift valleys in our hemisphere:  Earth news: The East African Rift Valley Could Fill With Ocean Water Or Lava, We Don’t Know

..Here is some information from the geological survey people in Kentucky:  http://www.uky.edu/KGS/emsweb/ecrb/pcrift.html

 

  • In addition to the recent discovery of a Proterozoic sandstone with natural-gas potential in the central Kentucky part of the basin, an ancient eroded mountain belt, called the Hoosier thrust belt, was discovered lying farther northwest in the English Basin part of the East Continent Rift Basin of Kentucky and southern Indiana. This mountain belt appears to have formed as the result of contraction developing during several episodes of orogeny during the Proterozoic. The thrust and fold structures of the eroded mountain belt also form potential natural gas traps that need to be evaluated by deep drilling.

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ΩΩBuried mountains?  Interesting.  Unlike in California where the breaks in the crust are like an open book, in this part of the country the ancient mountains are hidden from view.  The pre-Cambrian base is around 8,000 feet below the surface and this is why the Hoosier mountains were found only after gas drillers did enough drilling and setting off explosions to map these subterranean complex geological systems.  The idea that the middle of the US was flat is still hanging on but geologists now realize this is not true. We are not sitting on a table but rather, a broken basement filled with rubble.

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ΩΩAnd it is not rising in the Mississippi watershed, it is falling:  Sunken Lands – Encyclopedia of Arkansas

 

  • When the New Madrid earthquakes began in December 1811, the territory which is today northeastern Arkansas was sparsely populated. An early chronicler described the earthquakes’ effect as the ground moving like waves on the land, when suddenly the earth would burst, sending up huge volumes of water and sand, leaving chasms where the earth had burst open. Huge lakes were created (such as Tennessee’s Reelfoot), and near the St. Francis River in northeast Arkansas, vast tracts of land sank as far as fifty feet into the earth or disappeared into the river.

 

  • The quakes continued through March 1812, and land continued to sink in much of today’s Craighead, Mississippi, and Poinsett counties. Those surveying the damage in canoes recorded their shock at seeing forests of tall trees submerged in the murky water with only the tallest branches visible. Lakes replaced hills, and huge fissures filled with stagnant pools. For miles, the quakes caused land to sink beneath the level of the surrounding countryside. The once bountiful northeast Arkansas—filled with verdant forests, abundant game, and fertile ground—became a swamp.

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ΩΩWow!  And will this happen again?  You bet!  This isn’t a finished process.  It is still happening.  I suspect the hills on the western half of the state will continue to rise but the valley will fall further, perhaps because the pre-Cambrian plates might be tipping (they have done this in the past).  There are major lakes in this region that appeared suddenly in 1812.  This means seemingly solid ground could suddenly be below the water table in the inevitable future earthquake that will shake this region.

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ΩΩWe don’t know if there were micro-quakes in the central area of Arkansas like the two episodes we saw in the last 30 years.  I wonder if this is an indication that the pressure on the west side of the state is building up, that is, this area is going up due to pressure from the Pacific whereas the other half is detaching further and will fall some more.  One can only guess.

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ΩΩMeanwhile, in this volcanic, snowy winter, we get more volcanic eruptions.  The earth moved a great deal in the The Great Boxing Day Earthquake Changed Earth’s Surface Gravity which was exactly 7 years ago this day.  Note here how one sector rose and a closely related sector of the planet subsided.

..I predicted in this article and others that we would have at least 5 years of generalized volcanic eruptions with several major ones possible.  And so it has happened.  When the great quake happened, the climate was getting hotter and hotter and everyone went along with the idea that global warming was happening, the only question was, the cause of this. I said back then, there are multiple causes the chief of which was solar activity but also other elements.

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ΩΩWell, I also said it would get progressively cooler if the volcanoes did erupt after the Boxing Day Great Quake.  That is, fine dust from the volcanoes would shield the earth from solar energy and thus, cool down.  And on top of this, there would be heavier than usual rains and lots of snow.  And guess what?  This happened!

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ΩΩThe problem with the global warming side of the debate was total denial that this would happen led to a hubris moment: as the snow fell, the rain flooded and things cooled off in the temperate zones, anyone noticing this was called names and denounced as stupid.  Finally, when Europe and large hunks of Asia and North America got buried under mountains of snow and floods came to warmer zones, the global warming people then pretended they predicted this when they  most certainly did not predict this.  They predicted more deserts, not more snow.

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ΩΩWell, yet another volcano is blowing steam:  Mount Bromo volcano erupts in Indonesia’s East Java province – Telegraph

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ΩΩSo, instead of talking about how volcanoes cause our weather, the ‘experts’ claim that warming is causing this, not volcanoes.  This really, really irritates me no end:  Expect more extreme winters thanks to global warming, say scientists – Science, News – The Independent

 

  • Scientists have established a link between the cold, snowy winters in Britain and melting sea ice in the Arctic and have warned that long periods of freezing weather are likely to become more frequent in years to come. An analysis of the ice-free regions of the Arctic Ocean has found that the higher temperatures there caused by global warming, which have melted the sea ice in the summer months, have paradoxically increased the chances of colder winters in Britain and the rest of northern Europe.

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ΩΩWell, talk about covering one’s asses!  HAHAHA.  If there was no volcanic activity, there would be probably less snow.  Snow forms best in the higher levels of clouds if there is dust for the moisture to collect around.  We can see this clearly if we melt snow and to make water in winter when I lived in a tent for ten years, I boiled down snow!  And at the bottom of the pan would be fine dust.  A very fine dust.  If one looks in a microscope, this dust is complex dust, it can be either wind-blown loess dust (as we see when we look at glacier cores) or volcanic dust.

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ΩΩI can understand why people are confused by the global warming scientists. This is because these frantic humans on a mission to save mankind from nature are dead wrong about key issues and too proud to back down and admit there are many forces at work here, some of which are extremely powerful.  The volcanoes and the sun are both extremely powerful forces.  One mega-eruption can set us back into an Ice Age in a hurry!  And the sun simply has to reduce sunspot activity a tiny bit and voila: it gets real cold, real fast.

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ΩΩThis volcanic winter event has many people unhappy:  Heavy snow strands travellers across N France with Thousands still stranded at Paris airport on X’mas Eve and then forced out of the modernistic airport because the roof was not designed for deep snow!

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ΩΩMeanwhile, in the southern hemisphere where it is high summer we get this amazing news:  Wintry weather brings snow to Australia in midsummer – Telegraph

 

  • Some 11 inches of snow fell at the ski fields in New South Wales, raising the prospect that parts of the country could experience a white Christmas.

 

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ΩΩIn southern China, it snowed last week and Cold weather sweeps Seoul in Christmas season.  I am told that it is not 50 below zero in the North Pole, it is only 25 below zero.  So it is tremendously warm in part of the Arctic.  But it is still freezing there!  I have endured 40 below zero and that is very cold indeed.  If one averages out temperatures, it can appear ‘warmer’ but this is a false picture based on not understanding how various zones interact. A 2 degree difference in the temperate zone is tremendously different from a 20 degree difference in polar zones!  So we have to not look at the entire planet but focus on what I call, the Ice Age temperate zone belt.  When this is buried in snow, we worry.

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ΩΩProof that the global warming people are full of hot air when it comes to predicting things and accurately understaning systems instead of applying the same doctrine to whatever happens, from 2000:  Snowfalls are now just a thing of the past – Environment – The Independent

 

  • Global warming, the heating of the atmosphere by increased amounts of industrial gases, is now accepted as a reality by the international community. Average temperatures in Britain were nearly 0.6°C higher in the Nineties than in 1960-90, and it is estimated that they will increase by 0.2C every decade over the coming century. Eight of the 10 hottest years on record occurred in the Nineties.

 

  • However, the warming is so far manifesting itself more in winters which are less cold than in much hotter summers. According to Dr David Viner, a senior research scientist at the climatic research unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia,within a few years winter snowfall will become “a very rare and exciting event”.

 

  • “Children just aren’t going to know what snow is,” he said.

 

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ΩΩInstead of this prediction, children in England are learning how to ski and how to not fall into snowbanks!  HAHAHA.  Note how the experts here explain that WINTERS will be WARMER.  Now, they claim they said that global warming will make winters colder!  HAHAHA.  That is pure insanity.  Shame on them all.  Total shame.  A mid-summer snow in parts of Australia that see no snow even in winter is certainly a meteorological event and I would suggest, not bring ‘warmer winters’ to mind since it is SUMMER in Australia!  Not winter.  So, will global warming make summers colder, too????

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ΩΩThis is why we have to adhere to incoming information and then deduce what will happen next, not impose our beliefs on Mother Nature.  She is immensely cruel to fools.

 

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38 responses to “The Enola-Guy Quakes Frightens Arkansas

  1. wb

    Sorry, Elaine, but I’ll take the work of the climatologists and the great majority of the worlds scientists over your fanciful ranting. You’re turning into a crackpot denialist regarding climate. Shame on you, for spreading disinformation and nonsense.

  2. CK

    There is no vaccine against failed emotional investments.

  3. BigKev

    “Back in November, when the Met Office was still doing its “mild winter” schtick, Corbyn said it would be the coldest for 100 years. Indeed, it was back in May that he first predicted a snowy December, and he put his own money on a white Christmas about a month before the Met Office made any such forecast. He said that the Met Office would be wrong about last year’s mythical “barbecue summer”, and he was vindicated. He was closer to the truth about last winter, too.”

    http://www.smh.com.au/environment/weather/theres-a-mini-ice-age-coming-says-man-who-beats-weather-experts-20101221-1945a.html

  4. zip

    never thought of it but apparently the sun itself is oscillating as function of the position of the planets (jupiter).

    ‘…
    Some time ago while researching some of my interests in areas such as meteorology, the cosmos and perceived man-made global warming I came across Carl’s website and in particular a very interesting graph which Carl Smith created showing an extension to Dr. Landscheidt’s work. After studying Carl’s graph it became apparent to me that Neptune & Uranus are responsible for Solar Grand Minima as well as Solar Cycle Modulation. In this article I will present Solar System Charts and Sunspot charts which correspond with some of the Angular Movements below in Carl’s graph….’

    http://www.landscheidt.info/?q=node/5

    The weather men predictions are based on the theory from this men
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodor_Landscheidt

  5. the fool on the hill

    With a “mother” like that, who needs the devil.

  6. emsnews

    The global warming people shot themselves in their own feet by making lousy predictions that then didn’t happen at all. So they now are covering their asses by claiming ALL sorts of weather are global warming. This is very dishonest. They should go back to dispassionate review of ALL data. This is the battle. It has now been lost I fear, forever. That is, no one is going to believe them on anything, anymore.

    It is very sad, as I am a messenger of bad news, I am blamed for telling things as they are. A shame, a real shame. CO2 comes from volcanoes, too, by the way. But don’t warm up the planet since this is very dirty CO2 pollution (there is lots of dust with it, that is!).

  7. Peter

    I have been reading a lot on the Electric Universe(yes electric sun too).The electrical connection between the Sun and Earth controls the climate ,not Co2.There are gigantic electrical currents in the plasma flowing between the Earth and the Sun.Recent space probes have confirmed this.
    Yes we are adding to the CO2 but Mars is warming up too!!

  8. JT

    @wb

    I don´t know about the crackpot part.
    It is the whitest xmas in recorded history here.
    Second year in a row.
    And the official view now is that winters are actually getting colder(2 years ago the official version was warmer).
    And climate change term is know out the window too.
    Global climate disruption is the PC term now.

    They don´t have a clue what will happen to climate.
    It was pushed too far with all the money and politics entering science and UN trying to solve aid funding through it too.

    Now you will see the politicians distancing themselves from the whole idea.
    That has started here already.

  9. Hmm, I think it will take more than cold winters to produce an ice age, glaciers are formed by the year over year accumulation of snow, so one would have to imagine year after year of sumer snow. Locally i had hopes that some of last years snow would remain on our mountains as we had heavy snow late into the spring,but alas no, a hot summer melted all but a few patches. If glaciers are growing i would know as i live among them.

  10. nah

    there is considerable jiggling in the middle for one simple reason: as the continent slides into various Pacific and related plates which are all moving northwards
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    that is fucking amazing… all of it… you emsnews raise the bar of exelence
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    a basement full of collapsed rubble i love it

  11. nah

    @CK
    December 25, 2010 at 8:29 pm
    There is no vaccine against failed emotional investments.
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    retard backstabbing crybaby whowhatsit… really you read that much blog
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    lurking intrusive annoying alternative whore

  12. nah

    o’ read it a few more times… maybe we see i to i

  13. nah

    WAR IS WAR… DO THE UNIMAGINABLE TO CHANGE AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE

  14. nah

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20101224/ts_afp/nkoreaskoreausmilitary_20101224043426
    “The revolutionary armed forces of the DPRK (North Korea) are getting fully prepared to launch a sacred war of justice of Korean style based on the nuclear deterrent at any time necessary to cope with the enemies’ actions deliberately pushing the situation to the brink of a war,” Kim said.
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    id prefer muslims and specifically iran to N.Korea and slavishly corrupt secret government of 1000 excuses for negotiation
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    mankind needs less horrible excuses to suffer

  15. wellwell

    Everything Elaine says on this is perfectly reasonable. There’s been an overall warming of the planet, but it was masked for decades by ‘global dimming’ from smokestack pollution, and more recently by activity from the sun and/or volcanoes. The scientists have certainly blown it – their reputation, along with that of global climate change bureaucrats, has been shot. Too bad, because the greatest question still hasn’t been answered: are we causing the overall warming, or is it something else? I’m beginning to believe that it’s something else.

  16. charlottemom

    Elaine — you are and have been quite right on your weather and geological observations and assessments. Thanks for your logical perspective! If only the environmental policy “scientists” would actually use scientific method!

  17. nah

    Global warming is the most misunderstood environmental buzzword spread the the MSM to confuse what otherwise should be sound government leadership in emerging human understanding.
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    What we know is that carbon dioxide is building up in the atmosphere +200ppM or so in 150 years. So instead of deciding that ‘pollution’ producing industries need to be replaced with new infrastructure that meets similar ends ‘nuclear or alternative’ coal and oil companies have reached a bargain with wall street to muddy the issue.
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    Corporate energy and money has decided the government should MANDATE IN LAW bucket shops that will ARTIFICIALLY inflate oil and coal prices in order to create a new ARTIFICIAL PRICE for ‘green power’… Goldman Sachs completes the work of god end of story.
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    There will be real costs transferred to consumers and NOWHERE IS IT REQUIRED to abandon the old oil/coal technology as long as they can drag their feet and make the same money. FACT NOTHING CAN REPLACE OIL EVER OPEN YOUR EYES.
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    Since global warming is just a bag of tricks as i believe it is for the planet has warmed SIGNIFICANTLY FOR 250,000 years.
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    The US government should stop confusing global warming with CARBON POLLUTION. If they mandate no coal/oil power plants may stand longer than 50 years and lend US credit to energy companies that cannot meet the mandate of a new US energy policy to transfer our production resources to modern technology.
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    oil/coal gets LESS expensive, and with nuclear the REAL COST of power will also GO DOWN so we could complete the next phase of US energy modernization. Upgrade the transmission infrastructure.
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    global warming is hammy laugh watching the dog chase its tail bullshit… and yes i believe the planet is AND WILL CONTINUE TO WARM until something out of our control happens, its been that way for billions of years… really really warm

  18. roger

    for a different take on global warming/climate change/extreme climate events check out:
    http://climateprogress.org/

  19. nah

    The New York Jets go to Chicago to defeat the bane of nah
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    BEARS

  20. Man-made greenhouse gas is not a problem that is going to abate; and it is symptomatic of the refusal of human beings to change their way of living. The ongoing nature of human wastefulness and use of resources points to one end, which I fear is a none too happy outcome. Global effects that come from increased heat being pumped into the atmosphere represents something that is manifesting with increasing power.

    Huge increases in snowfall and rainfall are the result of increased evaporation, as heat is increasingly pumped into the system. The overall greenhouse effect will become stupendous and irrefutable, once decomposition into methane from all the melting organic matter, in the far north, becomes the main driver of change. People have their heads buried so deep in the sand, when it comes to this multiplier effect. The scientists have not “blown it” by describing the greenhouse process that will not abate while human activity fills the atmosphere with carbon dioxide, carbon monoxide, methane, and nitrous compounds. Anyone who thinks this can continue without an ecological reckoning is simply in denial.

  21. DM

    @copeland

    So, everyone who thinks that you are an idiot is “in denial”?

  22. roger

    Copeland: that was a very succinct post. Thanks 🙂

  23. wellwell

    Copeland, you are missing the point.

    The scientists have “blown it” by insisting on a straight trajectory of ever-higher temperatures, while attempting to hide contrary evidence. This has damaged their credibility as honest forecasters – if you cannot see that, then you are in denial.

    They now have a more difficult time establishing their main case (and yours) that the macro-warming we’re witnessing is largely due to human industrial activity. Despite your expressions of ‘fear’ regarding a ‘reckoning’ that will punish our ‘wastefulness’, that case has yet to be made conclusively. Some of the new technology being developed for carbon capture is very interesting, but the costs are enormous.

    So if you’re offering a hairshirt for each of us to wear, I’ll take a pass.

  24. Hugh Jass

    this shit is crazy

  25. JT

    @copeland

    “Huge increases in snowfall and rainfall are the result of increased evaporation, as heat is increasingly pumped into the system.”
    “People have their heads buried so deep in the sand, when it comes to this multiplier effect”

    😀
    Your first quote means there is no multiplier effect.
    More heat = more snow and more glaciers?

    Climate scientist got it wrong and it is not by all means the first time.

  26. Steve

    You might be interested in the work of Piers Corbyn, if you don’t already know of it. He predicted the blizzard in the NE US, the blizzard in the UK and Europe, and unusual weather in Australia, 2 weeks before they took place. I know because I heard about his predictions from a friend and stocked up on food, gas, salt, etc. While the MET, Weather Channel, and local meteorologists were predicting the NE US storm would track out to sea, even 24-48 hours in advance of the storm, Piers stuck by his prediction. Well, he was right. And he says global warming is a hoax and that due to solar and lunar patterns we might be in for an ice age by 2035. If he is correct, then toss that in with the thermo-haline circulation shut down due to melting glaciers in the north, and we are in for some serious trouble.

    ΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩ

    ELAINE: I predicted this last summer and proof is, I worked like a fiend getting ready for a very snowy winter this year.

  27. Christian W

    That’s it! I’m buying a furhat. Elaine you can start to have sheep again and sell lambsfleece hats, they are apparently the warmest.

  28. @JT

    The “multiplier effect” is referring to methane, which I have read is several times more effective at trapping atmospheric heat than carbon dioxide. Permafrost and frozen peat, once defrosted, will decompose and release methane, huge amounts of methane. Climate scientists have called this potential organic decomposition “a ticking time bomb.”

    Somehow you became confused into thinking that by “multiplier effect” I was referring to pumping up heat, and increased rain and snowfall. The next bit in that paragraph was about a process of organic decay, not the other process, which comes from burning fossil fuels.

  29. emsnews

    Copeland, you are correct. But this still is missing my major points here: the global warming people were adamant that it would get hotter and DRIER and when it didn’t, like children trying to catch up with reality, the story switched quite suddenly to ‘wetter and colder’ but part of the time, not all of the time.

    As each weather shift causes millions of people to get angrier and angrier as they have been hectored into preparing for a hot dry climate (remember my other major point; people LOVE hot, dry climates! A lot!!!!) when this didn’t appear and instead, it got cold and wet…this is a major, major problem not being addressed at all.

  30. Elaine , ”winter snowfall will become “a very rare and exciting event”
    notice there is no time attached to that statement, i would take it to mean in >50 yrs.

    ΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩ

    ELAINE: Nope. They meant ‘next year’ and when we had warm winters in England that were like in the Roman era, they said this was proof that global warming was here, now. I said back then, this is a repeat o a previous interglacial warm cycle which is a series of cold/warm 500 year events embedded within the ice age/interglacial cycles. Call this a little ‘burp’ in the system. CO2 is, according to some ASTRONOMERS, is bumping off the inevitable Ice Age event that is now due. This is because the sun controls this, not CO2.

  31. Wu Wei

    Global warming muahhahaha, you guys believe anything CNN has to tell you, don’t ya.

    The opposite is true: global cooling. Babylonian double tongue tricks.

  32. JT

    @copeland

    If multiplier effect was true none of us would be here talking about this.
    CO2 does not drive the climate that is the boring truth.
    It might warm it a couple of degrees but once again climate scientists have to back to the drawing board for a new theory.
    CO2 is up up all the time and the world is cooling.

  33. emsnews

    Air pollution is bad. Burning a billion years of biomass is bad in the long run (this is a ONE TIME use of the planet!!!!) and I am against wasting things and we waste a lot of natural resources.

    But…we still should fear ice ages much more than we do. They are truly a nightmare future for us. Seriously. Habitable landmasses being reduced by around 35%, much of the temperate belt we have today, annihilated. Ouch.

  34. Elaine; Yup he said that , very foolish, exceeding his mandate which is to predict climate, not weather.

  35. I like that hemisphereic map of the rift valleys! I’ve always had this vision of the Eastern United States and Canada unzipping from the mouth of the Mississippi to the Gulf of St lawrence, creating a new seaway. Don’t know why.

    Interesting that the global warming people say we’ll have colder, wetter winter due to global warming. Now when did that happen before??? About 120,000 years ago, when the planet collapsed back into an ice age.

    Oh, and that cap-and-trade nonsense from LAST winter, well it turns out that WikiLeaks with the help from someone at Bradley Manning’s Army Base Intel Office in Iraq revealed that the US wanted to foist it onto the rest of the world. Proving you right again, Elaine. 🙂

  36. IndianaJohn

    Happy New Year Elaine and thanks for posting.

    “Paradigm is the strongest force known to man.” As they often cite at this site; http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2010/arch10/101231breakdown.htm

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