Pope Says Atheists Can Go To Heaven, Cardinal Says Abortion Women Go To Hell But Not Pedophile Priests

According To Pope Francis, Atheists Can Go To Heaven Too but the next day the Catholic Church confirms atheists still go to hell, after all because Jesus hates us.  Nothing was said about us believers in the Goddesses such as good old Mother Nature, the Norns who spin our fates or the entities I call Lady Luck and Goddess of Infinity.


Australian Cardinal: Abortion is bigger sin than priest abuse which doesn’t surprise me.  The Vicars of God, the wolves herding the sheep are forgiven if they devour and rape these sheep they are supposed to protect but if the sheep get abortions to control the size of their families, this is a high crime for the male gods of this gang.  Then, she is ‘evil’ and will be tortured for eternity due to this necessary survival action.


We see in various parts of the world unfettered childbearing which destroys not only the women who have a much higher death rate than countries with abortions and birth control but also are causing this massive population boom that will eventually destroy all living things as humans overpopulate the planet and eat or kill everything else.


Recently, the U.N. said to world: “Eat your insects.”  Yes, that will fix the human starvation problem where populations double every 20 years.  Much of my life, I have enjoyed greatly the debate about who goes to Heaven and who goes to Hell.


Once, several years ago, a representative of the Catholic Church decided to debate me.  Here is the result:  Religion News: The Catholic Church Discusses Heaven And Hell With Me.  I discuss the odd idea that a human man is supposedly born of a woman/god sex (which is extremely pagan!) and then gets to judge the dead instead of the ancient Goddess, Libra.  Libra is impartial and the new Pope has openly said She is the one who decides, based on various regulations, who is ‘good’ or ‘bad’.  Not Jesus.


The Catholic Church is freaking out over this because like all the ugly Christian fanatical groups, it believes ONLY it is the door to Jesus loving the dead and everyone else is going to hell no matter what good deeds they do or how they lived.  Every Christian believes his or her way is the only way to Heaven and the idea that Jesus hates all of them for being close-minded and cruel, just isn’t believable.


They all think Jesus loves them and only themselves and hates all other Christians and everyone else, past, present and future and only a tiny handful would go to Heaven.  I firmly believe that Christian Heaven is actually Hell because Jesus will be on the outside viewing them as zoo animals which would go screaming and bellowing all over the place, attacking each other for being imperfect for all eternity.


Few people face down the Christians for this hatred they have for each other and all other humans who won’t practice whatever magic spells they are throwing.  They all think they control Jesus and he is a puppet dancing to their incantations and spiritual demands which they call ‘prayers’.  The idea that he may hate them all doesn’t occur to them.  But if he were real, he would despise them precisely because they are the ones who created Hell and then made him in charge of who goes there.


The US rightwing loves to use Jesus as a battering ram to smash women’s rights and the Catholic Church remains our main enemy when it comes to our basic women’s civil rights.  Then there is the right wing bellowers on radio and TV attacking gays, women, minorities and other Americans with this latest example:  Rush Limbaugh: Obama, Chris Christie Have A ‘Master-Servant Relationship’ (AUDIO).  Yes, if Gov. Christie of New Jersey is polite to our President, he is a ‘slave’.


This racist radio personality has a long and ugly record but his upside down beliefs are amazing to watch.  Treating our President correctly is ‘slavery’?  Wow.  This is part of the ‘attack the Northeast when there is a disaster and FEMA spending has to go there.’


The rightwing is waging war not just against women, blacks, other minorities, Hispanics, gays, Muslims, it is waging regional war, too.   Previously, Limbaugh claimed Obama wanted Hurricane Irene to hit us (it hit us very hard here in upstate NY and Vermont!) so we would have to ask for FEMA money!  Limbaugh claimed the hurricane would distract us from the bad economy.


Never mentioning Bush Jr as the cause of the economic collapse, of course.  This sort of chatter is lapped up by people who want to punish fellow Americans especially if they think we are bad people that Jesus wants to send to hell.  And this is what fuels this flag-waving hatred of fellow Americans.  I especially warn all Jews that these Christian fanatics firmly believe all Jews will burn in Hell forever.  Period.  This puts all Jews in the ‘bad people’ category and the alliance whereby AIPAC cynically uses right wing sectionalist Christians who hate women’s rights and minorities, is very dangerous and destructive and is a sword that will turn on them one ugly day.


And I give the new Pope some good credit points for going against 2,000 years of Church doctrine when it comes to the vital question, who goes to hell.  Frankly, virtually all Popes are burning in Hell due to living in a palace and taxing the poor mercilessly for over 1,500 years.  Amen.

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13 responses to “Pope Says Atheists Can Go To Heaven, Cardinal Says Abortion Women Go To Hell But Not Pedophile Priests

  1. Peter C.

    That’s too funny!Doesn’t the Pope realize an athiest doesn’t think there is a heaven or hell so why would we care what he believes?
    He should concentrate on that sick excuse for a human being the Australian cardinal and kick him out of the church while turning him over to the police.

  2. larry, dfh

    Mrs. Levy, our garacious hostess:
    one for you.

  3. Eso

    Though I cannot claim myself to be a great believer in God, I do have feelings for and have great respect for the Divine–even if it is nothing more than an appreciation for the many manifestations of nature. Maybe others call it the Golden Ratio instead of the Divine.
    Though I recognize that historically the Church has committed many crimes, this does not cause me to dismiss it altogether, but rather leads me to discover the causes, be it whatever one presumes to be God. Indeed, this has led me to replace God with the Great Other, who none of us can be without. I would be interested to know, where you, Elaine, stand on this.
    I also believe that so-called atheists are what I call ‘status quoers’ or escapists as much as are Christians imo the creators of capitalism they now do not know how to either control or uncreate.

  4. melponeme_k

    Unrelated…but interesting


    Areas north of LA still getting shakes. This one in Santa Barbara

  5. lucky13

    Quakes, yes…but of what magnitude?

  6. DK

    Believing in a god with a hell, or other torture chamber, is a disease for sick minds.

  7. EC

    Dear stubborn, misguided, and misled,

    Jesus does not hate anyone. What did Jesus do and say to the woman caught in adultery when the people wanted to stone her to death?

    God provides grace, and God judges. Jesus is the way and the truth, but God’s grace knows no bounds. God never stops loving us and giving us chances to have a relationship with Him, no matter how many times we reject Him and His eternal, boundless love.

    Hell is the absence of God, with souls choosing to live forever in sin, on fire with their own desires, hateful and rejecting of God’s love and grace. There is much wailing and nashing of teeth in the Outer Darkness, and much hatred of God, as Elaine can tell you from her visits.


    ELAINE: I am happy you agree that virtually all Popes are in Hell! HAHAHA.

    And my guys are the Dire Female Goddesses: Lady Luck, Mother Nature and the Norns. Not to mention the terrifying Medusa, the Goddess of Infinity and of course, the most frightful of all, Nothingness, that is, Zero. What is outside the Universe?

    That is the question none of us can answer….

  8. lucky13

    FoxNews: [to think Gosnell is some anomaly is absurd]
    Williams arrived in the morning and was given more medication.

    The Department of Health account continues as follows: Just before noon she began to feel ill. The clinic contacted Renelique. Two hours later, he still hadn’t shown up. Williams went into labor and delivered the baby.

    “She came face to face with a human being,” Pennekamp said. “And that changed everything.”

    The complaint says one of the clinic owners, Belkis Gonzalez came in and cut the umbilical cord with scissors, then placed the baby in a plastic bag, and the bag in a trash can.

    Williams’ lawsuit offers a cruder account: She says Gonzalez knocked the baby off the recliner chair where she had given birth, onto the floor. The baby’s umbilical cord was not clamped, allowing her to bleed out. Gonzalez scooped the baby, placenta and afterbirth into a red plastic biohazard bag and threw it out.

    No working telephone number could be found for Gonzalez, and an attorney who has represented the clinic in the past did not return a message.

    At 23 weeks, an otherwise healthy fetus would have a slim but legitimate chance of survival. Quadruplets born at 23 weeks last year at The Nebraska Medical Center survived.

    An autopsy determined Williams’ baby — she named her Shanice — had filled her lungs with air, meaning she had been born alive, according to the Department of Health. The cause of death was listed as extreme prematurity.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,488644,00.html#ixzz2UkPIojp8


    ELAINE: The Church has butchered many men, women, children, babies…millions and millions and millions and so on.

  9. Time to pull out the Gandhi quote. “I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ.” Shorter Gandhi. “God, I like you, but your fandom scares me.”

    As for the new Pope, I like him better all them, and I had a positive opinion of him in the first place.


  10. Jason & Dana Hegna

    Fundamentalism. Fundamentalists of any of the religions are the problem when they apply their belief system instead of applying any semblance of empirical process. They go along with any idea that is connected to a belief they have. If some politician is against abortion, they go along with any other ideas of h/h’s, (i.e., no unions, no health care or education or food programs for the children or the poor, no disaster relief, etc.) because of their belief system way of thinking. They can have jobs and be struggling, too, but they are concerned only for themselves and have little awareness of, and no compassion or empathy for the same travails of others. It’s well known that they are the easiest to control and manipulate by the sophisticated advertisers and advantage-takers due to their ignorance and manner of thought-processing. (A few of the politicians are ‘genuine’ fundamentalists, but most just play the others for dupes.)

    [partial re-post] “…Religious fundamentalists have a very strong belief system, and their perspectives replicate and support their belief system. Thoughts like good and bad, right and wrong, are based on beliefs that are supported by a simple system of dualities, so their minds discriminate, ignore, and feel uncomfortable with any knowledge or information that’s from scientific process. So, they reinforce their simplistic dualistic thinking, and degrade their knowledge into oblivion with zero tolerance for foreign thought. Society has begun to call them many names, like far-right-wing, whack-job, basket-case, looney, nut-job, Bible-thumper, nutter, screwball, wacko, wing-nut, and worse because they are reactionary to everything that is not solved with simple dualisms, which causes their belief system to be applied to think FOR them…” – JH

    “Under Christianity neither morality nor religion has any point of
    contact with actuality. It offers purely imaginary causes (God,
    soul, ego, spirit, free will – or even, unfree), and purely
    imaginary effects (sin, salvation, grace, punishment,
    forgiveness of sins). Intercourse between imaginary beings (God,
    spirits, souls); an imaginary natural history (anthropocentric; a
    total denial of the concept of natural causes); an imaginary
    psychology (misunderstandings of self, misinterpretations of agreeable
    or disagreeable general feelings – for example, of the states of the
    nervus sympathicus with the help of the sign-language of
    religio-ethical balderdash – repentance, pangs of conscience,
    temptation by the devil, the presence of God); an imaginary
    teleology (the kingdom of God, the last judgment, eternal
    life). This purely fictitious world, greatly to its disadvantage, is
    to be differentiated from the world of dreams; the latter at least
    reflects reality, whereas the former falsifies it, cheapens it, and denies it.”
    -F. Nietzsche, from The Antichrist, s.15.

  11. lucky13

    Christians no longer legally burn witches.
    Africa and the mid East have not evolved similarly.


  12. Seraphim

    It looks that Elaine cannot have enough of the “Jesus hates us” bullshit. The Goddess loved the bulls.

  13. IAmSpartacus

    @ lucky13: Not all of the west has evolved beyond witch trials; American Christian Evangelicals would burn witches, atheists, gays, and many, many more, if they had half a chance; they’d love to set up a Taliban type state here in the US; they’re the same types that support our neverending Middle Eastern wars; it’s the new Crusades, in defense of the ZioNazi state of Israel, because God wills it. These are the same people who want death and destruction, want World War 3; they’re mentally unbalanced people who’ve read the Book of Revelation too many times, and think that imposing a dictatorship run by Jesus, and them, of course, is a swell idea. Their whole goal is to bring their type of Heaven to earth just as fast as they can; what does it matter to them if millions of people die in the process of trying to make their book of fairy tales come true.

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