Dutch Detectives Back Track On Findings, Forced To Claim Russkies Did It

After issuing a mealy-mouthed report two days ago, the Dutch Detectives issued a new statement that contradicts their previous one, namely, they are paying more attention to the belief that the Russians shot down the jet.  Imagine that!  The arm twisting that went on for 48 hours must have jerked their limbs out of their sockets!  So the warmongers of NATO crow that they must punish Putin even more.  And Putin has a finger to the weather which is turning dangerously cold earlier than NATO expected.  I see a frozen EU this winter.


This stupid cold war will be certainly very cold and extremely expensive for Europe.  Norway will laugh all the way to the bank and the Scots, if they are smart, will vote to kick out the bankers and seize the oil/gas fields and get rich, too.  Here is the Dutch back track on their own feeble findings:  Malaysia Airlines flight MH17: ‘most likely’ it was shot down from ground | World news | theguardian.com


The possibility that Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 was shot down from the ground is the “most likely” scenario being explored by dozens of detectives, according to the Dutch prosecutor overseeing the criminal investigation into the downing of the jet.


The shooting-down scenario “is the one getting the most attention now” in the international investigation into the downing of the Boeing 777 over eastern Ukraine on 17 July, Fred Westerbeke of the Dutch National Prosecutors Office told reporters on Friday.


My little grey cells tell me that this is all hog wash.  If this were true, they would have said it earlier.  But now that they have been hammered by NATO elites screaming that their conclusion wasn’t the right one, they are madly back tracking.  The stupidest thing here is, they mention they are still trying to get the super secret US satellite data!




Right-o, chaps!  But they claim correctly that this is difficult because the US won’t give it to them or anyone.  HAHAHA.


Naturally, this leads the Western press to crow that Putin still did it despite zero information and our great Dutch detectives bungle about helplessly like the twin detectives, Thomson and Thombson in all the Tin Tin cartoons.


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17 responses to “Dutch Detectives Back Track On Findings, Forced To Claim Russkies Did It

  1. Peter C.

    Who would want to get on a commercial flight these days knowing you could be sacrificed for the “greater good”?haha

  2. Jim R

    Well, you know, because of net neutrality rules, the spy satellite data is on a super-slow downlink. One bit per year.

    In four or five centuries, when Fukushima is no longer radioactive, we will have nice sharp clear pictures of the junta military jet shooting a missile, or a massive burst of bullets, at the 777.

  3. emsnews

    Magic number day!

  4. Being There

    What’s the game plan for Russia you ask? Just ask ZBIG:


    Redrawing the Map of the Russian Federation after WWIII:

    ..[The end goal of the US and NATO is to divide (balkanize) and pacify (finlandize) the world’s biggest country, the Russian Federation, and to even establish a blanket of perpetual disorder (somalization) over its vast territory or, at a minimum, over a portion of Russia and the post-Soviet space, similarly to what is being done to the Middle East and North Africa.

    The future Russia or the many future Russias, a plurality of weakened and divided states, that Washington and its NATO allies see is/are demographically in decline, de-industrialized, poor, without any defensive capabilities, and hinterlands that will exploited for their resources.

    The Plans of the Empire of Chaos for Russia

    Breaking the Soviet Union has not been enough for Washington and NATO. The ultimate goal of the US is to prevent any alternatives from emerging in Europe and Eurasia to Euro-Atlantic integration. This is why the destruction of Russia is one of its strategic objectives.]……

    Our leadership hates competition. Thus no democracy no capitalism.

    Remember TINA there is no alternative……M. Thatcher. Neoliberalism/Neoconservatism goes on

  5. Jim R

    There is just one teeny-tiny problem with Zbig’s plan:

    Russia is not going bankrupt. The “West” is.

  6. emsnews

    100% correct which is why the wishful thinkers in DC imagine they can bankrupt Russia via the boycotts which are really killing the EU including, as I posted earlier, East Europeans hitting the West ones with fraud claiming false loss of profits with Russia.

  7. Seraphim

    @Redrawing the Map of the Russian Federation after WWIII:

    The insane mouth foaming fury of the West is that they in fact realize it is a pipe-dream. It is EU that will split, it is the US that would split.

  8. Alaskan Ice

    The only reason the pilot would willingly divert over Donetsk during fighting is if he had an affirmative agenda.

    The only reason the Russians wouldn’t blame the Ukrainians (with proof) is because the Ukrainians didn’t do it.

    The only reason all the parts aren’t laid out in a warehouse for FBI forensics is because the plane had spy gear on board.

    The only reason both sides are covering it up with soft-pedaled investigations and ridiculously implied conspiracy theory is that both sides have something to hide: One side wants to hide that it used civilian, human-shields as cover for an electronic warfare flight into a war-zone, and the other side wants to hide the fact they shot them down.

  9. emsnews

    No one knows anything because the WEST is keeping all this secret. Where is the data?

    The Russians don’t control this. Europe controls this via Malaysia who has been playing deaf and dumb successfully.

    The US plane crash investigators are no where to be seen.

  10. Alaskan Ice

    The silence around the MH-17 shoot-down on 7/17 speaks repeat of KAL-007, particularly on the heels of the disappearance of MH-370 on 3/7, not to mention the subsequent continued diversion of Malaysian Airlines flights over other war-zones in Syria.

    It’s not true that “[no] one knows anything. . . “; I know enough to say whether I’d fly that airline as a civilian.

    It’s not Poirot so much as “Austin Powers.”

  11. Alaskan Ice

    This tragedy highlights a broader misunderstanding over the appropriate use in a “real” war-zone of recently practiced tactics that are more effective in intelligence gathering over third-world nations and against non-state actors and tribal groups, but are tantamount to hiding behind human shields against an adversary who can shoot back.

  12. Jim R

    AI, some of your assertions are demonstrably wrong, while others are just silly. Circumstantial evidence says one of the Kiev junta’s fighter planes shot down that jet.
    Malaysian Flight MH17 crash analysis, by The Russian Union of Engineers

    That link has a story about the Russian investigators. Couple of points are worth noting: investigators were allowed to view the site, and the Russians actually did present their evidence, which was simply ignored by the “news” media.

    Clearly, if NATO wanted the truth to be known, they would publish the flight data recorder and cockpit voice recorder tapes. That they have not done so strongly suggests that they are trying to cover up and bury the story. On the other hand, the story is well known in the Russian media.

  13. Alaskan Ice

    You have it half right. Both sides trying to cover it up, filling the discursive space with limp-wristed conspiracy and inuendo lacking evidence that either superpower could produce easily.

    I can understand your lack of familiarity with the capabilities in question might make that hard to understand.

    Same result as KAL-007: the West stopped blaming the Soviets for “intentionally” shooting it down and the Soviets never produced evidence the plane was a spy-plane. And the “official” investigation by Task Force 71 turned up nothing.

    It’s amazing they expect the public to buy the same routine a second time.

  14. Alaskan Ice

    What makes no sense is that the Ukrainians shot it down as some kind of unapproved “false flag” operation to blame Russia and drag the west (more) into the war on their side?

    “False Flags” require another flag in the first instance; Ukrainians would have used their own planes in your scenario?

    They would have wanted to shoot down a plane from a western airline; not a Malaysian plane; kind of a long run for short slide to “false flag” attack the wrong nation.

    On the other hand, if you suppose it was a Ukrainian “mistake” the Russians could prove that with recordings of Ukrainian fighter radio traffic tomorrow.

    Think of modern planes like the 777 as iphones in the sky; they’re not necessarily spying on you, but they’re built for it, with walkable cargo areas and aft cargo doors.

  15. emsnews

    How wrong can you be, Ice?

    WHO WERE ON BOARD? Think! People from Holland, not Malaysia.

  16. Jim R

    Seems unlikely that it was unapproved, or a mistake. And this plane, unlike perhaps some others, was not ‘hacked’ into crashing. It was full of shrapnel/bullet holes.

    And the Russians published their findings. If NATO wished, they could probably ‘debunk’ them, but instead, there is dead silence from the ‘news’. You must read the Russian media to see it.

    No, there was a reason for it, for two purposes. Yes, to blame the rebel militia. Classic false flag. And to blame Russia by extension. The story was “Russia supplied the missiles to the rebels.” Later it became “Russia shot down that plane.” Despite the fact that the Buk missiles were actually manufactured in eastern Ukraine, and may never have crossed the border. Such facts are unimportant to the ‘news’ media these days. Anyway, it looks like it wasn’t a Buk missile, it was a Ukie fighter.

    Second, it was an excuse (which failed) to get a temporary cease fire and open a corridor from western Ukraine to one of the larger ‘cauldrons’ in the east. If you don’t know what that is, you haven’t been paying attention.

  17. emsnews

    Yes, the key here is the dead silence with Western media in full collusion. Where are the investigative reporters…SNARK.

    This is a classic Bilderberg operation.

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