White and black crime are quite different. There is literally more white white collar crime than black white collar crime. But street crimes are overwhelmingly black crime. Mass murders are mainly white males but individual murders are nearly all blacks and increasingly, Hispanic shoot outs due to the illegal drug trade and the collapse of the family structure. The sad thing here is, we are not allowed to discuss in public what is going on even as black and Hispanic crime causes great misery in both communities while schools fail in these same places and everyone loves to blame white Europeans for this mess while ignoring the actual causes. If anyone dares mention the real mess, they are crucified by liberal media.
The Huffington Post will not tell anyone who is killing thousands of blacks every year. The allows people like the demonstrators in Ferguson to get all hysterical about the very rare whites killing blacks while forbidding any conversation about the reality of who is killing whom.
I knew Giuliani in the past and believe it or not, we actually worked together to deal with crime in NYC and I am a liberal: Giuliani blames cop shootings on black-on-black crime | New York Post
“Why don’t you cut down your crime so so many white police officers don’t have to be in black areas?” Giuliani asked.
“Ninety-three percent of blacks in America are killed by other blacks. We are talking about the exception here [in Ferguson] . . . I would like to see the attention paid to that — that you’re paying to this.”
Meanwhile, President Obama on ABC’s “This Week” also spoke about Ferguson fallout.
“There are a lot of communities in my hometown of Chicago, for example, who want to actually see more police,” Obama said. “But they want to make sure the police are trained so they can distinguish between a gangbanger and a kid who just happens to be wearing a hoodie.”
How do police distinguish between ‘gangbangers’ and ‘just a kid wearing a hoodie’ when both dress alike, both act similar, both do the same stupid things? Oh! You can’t tell the difference except when the ‘gangbanger’ pulls a gun and shoots at you! Except when a ‘just a kid wearing a hoodie’ pulls a fake gun and pretends to kill you? I am baffled. It is impossible to tell them apart because there is no difference!
The ‘gangbanger’ is the ‘just a kid’. When I dealt with high crime rates in NYC, parents of ‘kids’ under the age of 16 would openly boast about how they can send Junior out to commit crimes including MURDER because no one can put the tykes in prison! And we had 12 year old murderers in our neighborhood. One hoodie wearing 12 year old ‘kid’ stabbed a friend of mine on my front doorstep when he rang the doorbell, for example.
Luckily, thanks to me moving very fast, I was able to save his life and even track down the kid later and confront his mother who said, ‘You can’t arrest me. I didn’t do it and you can’t put my kid in prison’. So there. We had to wait until this tyke reached 16 to finally send him up the river. The mayhem he caused was tremendous and dragged down the entire community.
The same year my friend was stabbed and my husband mugged, I started a very proactive street patrol and we made a number of significant citizen’s arrests. Half of our patrol was black. The most spectacular arrests came about when a black plumber neighbor and I took down armed thugs. I pushed very hard for NYC to patrol our neighborhood.
The Democratic mayor at the time thought ERRONEOUSLY that letting blacks run wild meant they would leave him alone. But they didn’t leave me alone, they were constantly invading my home, my territory and attacking me and everyone around me. So I demanded a foot patrol and I finally got one…for one day! Then the NYC Council President who was Italian, stole my patrol!
When I raised hell, to retaliate, the President of Queens sent over a detective who threatened my life if I didn’t shut up. I followed the detective to his car and yelled, ‘Now I got you!’ and he ran off like a rabbit. But I had his ID and forced the Commissioner of the Police to cough up who this guy was.
Because I kicked up a fuss so as a ‘joke’ the NYC Council President then gave me Rudi Giuliani’s secret FBI Mafia contact phone number and told me that Rudi would take care of the detective. I called the number not knowing who I was calling. Rudi was furious as well as scared. He demanded to know who gave me his number and then began laughing when I told him. He then instituted an investigation that eventually led to a Congressman going to prison, the President of Queens committing suicide and the Jefferson Club of the Democratic Party getting hell and eventually, Rudi became mayor of NYC.
MSNBC carried the above debate and the mainstream media carried a shorter version designed to make Rudi look ‘racist’ for talking about black on black crime. Here is the full transcript: Giuliani Destroys Michael Eric Dyson on Black on Black Crimes: “White Officers Wouldn’t Be There If You Weren’t Killing Eachother” (Video) | The Gateway Pundit
Dyson called comparing the killing of Michael Brown to the murders of blacks or other blacks a “false equivalency.” Dyson said that the former Mayor’s attitidue is reinfocing the problems that blacks are facing. (Giuliani’s answer to this ‘you are a racist’ smear)
“The fact is I find it very disappointing that you’re not discussing the fact that 93% of blacks in America are killed by other blacks. We’re talking about the exception here. We are talking about a significant exception. 93% of blacks are killed by other blacks. I would like to see the attention paid to that, that you are paying to this. And the solutions to that… It is the reason for the heavy police presence in the black community… What about the poor black child that is killed by another black child? Why aren’t you protesting that?… How about 75% of the crime in my town takes place in black cities?… White officers wouldn’t be there if you weren’t killing eachother.”
The most common gun violence, by contrast, is drearily predictable and is the source on average of nearly ten thousand homicides a year. Such violence occurs overwhelmingly in certain locations of cities—over the past 30 years in Boston, for example, 75 percent of the city’s shootings occurred in 4.5% of its area, whereas 88.5 percent of the city’s street segments experienced not a single shooting.
Urban shootings are retaliatory or the product of the most trivial of slights. They are committed by handguns, not assault rifles. Victims and perpetrators usually know each other, absent bullets going astray. Reforming the involuntary commitment laws and beefing up mental health services are largely irrelevant to these shootings, since though the shooters have serious problems with impulse control and are clearly a danger to themselves and others, few would be deemed mentally ill.
And both victims and perpetrators are disproportionately minority, by huge margins. New York City is emblematic of the country’s gun violence. According to victims and witnesses, blacks commit 80% of all shootings in New York, though they are 23% of the city’s residents. Add Hispanics and you account for 98% of all shootings. Whites commit a little over 1% of shootings, though they are 35% of the city’s population. These disproportions pertain across the country.
This is a video of a black commentator wanting desperately for white kids to be killed, too. The chaos enveloping black communities is due to the collapse of civility of every sort there. Recently, when I politely asked a black woman to please step aside for just one minute, she blew up and I had to summon the police. It was astonishing how swiftly she freaked out.
Last year, I was shocked to hear a black mother rage at her little son threatening him with great violence so I walked over and said, she should calm down please, what she was doing was wrong. She blew up and screamed she was going to kill me and so I summoned the police who had to arrest her. When black athletes were caught abusing their own children in a violent way, many liberal blacks defended them instead of condemning this and understanding that this home violence breeds violent teens.
Everyone is scared to talk about racism in the black community in regards to their ongoing push to demonize all white cops who end up in violent confrontations with blacks. Even Giuliani at MSNBC was scared of talking about black lynch mobs. Meanwhile in Ferguson where blacks are angry that cops patrol the joint: Police: Two overnight shootings at north county bars
According to Sgt. Brian Schellman, a police spokesman, the first shooting occurred at approximately 11:50 p.m. at the Knockout Bar and Grill, located in the 11200 block of W. Florissant Avenue. Witnesses told police that a man went outside to smoke a cigarette but was refused re-entry by a doorman. Following an argument and shoving match, the suspect threatened the doorman and stormed off.
The suspect came back a short time later and waited by the exit door. When a patron left the building, the suspect ran inside and shot the doorman several times. The doorman, identified as 30-year-old Herbert Burnett, was rushed to a local hospital where he later died.
That same night, also in Ferguson on Florissant Avenue, blacks were forced to leave a bar so it could close, they then had a riot in the parking lot and one of them was shot dead and of course, no one knows nothing when the cops show up. This is more black on black murder and note that the reason for killing was irritation and desire for revenge for small slights.
The above FBI table shows clearly that 431 whites were killed by blacks in 2012 whereas only 193 blacks were killed by whites. Black violence isn’t aimed only at blacks, it extends to white victims, too. Since whites are the vast majority of the population and blacks are less than 15%, this disparity is huge. Blacks killing blacks equals in numbers, whites killing whites. And Hispanics are included in the FBI ‘white’ statistics which hides the other truth that most of the white on white and white on black killings are due to Hispanics who are involved in a very active territorial drug war with blacks.
Then there is the issue of whites doing mass murder: Mass murder rises as other killings decline which is usually due to loner males freaking out:
From 1980 to 2008, at least 4,685 people have perished in 965 reported incidents of mass murder involving at least four fatalities committed during the same incident. Multiple homicides involving at least two victims took 44,163 lives in 19,568 incidents.
In cases in which police identify the offender, 49 percent of the perpetrators in single-victim homicides were whites, while whites accounted for 61 percent of mass homicides. Blacks account for 49 percent of single-victim killings and 35 percent of mass killings.
In cases in which police identify the offender, 49 percent of the perpetrators in single-victim homicides were whites, while whites accounted for 61 percent of mass homicides. Blacks account for 49 percent of single-victim killings and 35 percent of mass killings.
The victims of mass murder tend to be a cross section of the U.S. population. About 70 percent of mass murder victims are white, compared to only 50 percent of victims of single-person killings. Women accounted for more than 40 percent of mass murder victims, up from about 20 percent of single-victim killings.
This is all very scary, too. And requests to making mass weapons under more control is slammed by the NRA and the Republicans in general. Which is all very sad in so many ways. We are at war with each other and it seems that many men are at war with women and children in general since the vast majority of the killers are men, not women.
Our cities are not safe. I used to use public transportation and live in the city and we women were menaced a lot in public. In the news today is Questions surround Simsbury woman’s death yesterday when she was stabbed while jogging. Woman jogger stabbed to death in park in 2003. 16 Year Old Black Boy Stabs White Female Jogger to Death in 2013. White Female Jogger Stabbed to Death by a Hispanic in Texas. Columbus OH-female jogger stabbed and killed in park by 16 yr. old black teen in 2013. In California, Suspect arrested in Rossmoor jogger stabbing when a Hispanic teen decided to kill a white woman jogger.
So this isn’t just guns. Murderers are stalking women. We need to talk about race and sex here because it isn’t everyone who is doing all this, the culture bent on doing murder is quite specific and has to be taken care of, a hands-off approach means more murders and terrorizing women further. The next election will be a lot about law and order with women no longer siding in huge numbers with liberals and the Democratic Party.
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HuffPo is probably not on the daily reader menu for the fine folks of Ferguson.
The purpose of HuffPo is to make money for Arianna HuffPo.
If it’s Diverse and it Bleeds it leads.
Do you think that the L&O franchise would have maintained its multi decade run if it had truly used the daily crime reports in NYC as it story basis? How many dramas could one create about
two thugs killing each other for their sneakers?
My only advice to any whites currently living in America is to move as far away from blacks as possible. Last summer, while crossing the street downtown at an intersection WITH a walk light, I was nearly run over by one young negress. I stopped and stared at her, saying nothing as she leaned on her horn, trying to intimidate me. I commenced walking after about ten seconds when a car behind her, driven by a young negro buck screamed at me “I hope you DIE?”
There you have it, folks. Look, integration was a swell idea, but it didn’t work. It operated on the erroneous premise that blacks were the same as whites. They’re not. These “people” don’t want to do anything but terrorize YT and murder rampantly. Rioting, hell raising, murder, rape, robbery – it’s simply what they do. Where whites get out of bed each morning with the intent of going to work, paying the light bill and the rent, negroes wake up, after they’re damned good and ready to roll out of bed, constantly in search of something for nothing. It starts with Section 8, is compounded by food stamps and EBT, and rounds off with welfare with additional Bonus Bucks for each niglet released from the ever busy birth canal. Releasing new criminals into the country is what negresses do best. If your neighborhood gets more than 2-10 % black, it’s probably already too late.
I can never figure out if E Sutton is really serious or just enacting some kind of performance art/writing.
The problem Elaine writes about is one of crafted perception. There are great many black families out there who are trying to raise their children, work and live their lives. They are not milking any systems or engaging in racist behavior. But the Elite media doesn’t want to focus on them as cultural leaders. No, instead they focus on gangsters and baby thugs. They push forth the false story of black children being hunted down by white police officers. When in reality it is black children being hunted by other black children. All of this is crafted to destroy the black community and use them as scapegoats, to keep the focus off of them, their criminality.
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ELAINE: absolutely correct! The black middle class is between a rock and a hard place. Racists hate them and lower class blacks hate them! And their children especially the males, are always in danger of falling into the thug class!
The thing here is, who can fix this? What solutions are being offered. The posters here who think a race war will fix things is most disturbing but then, the liberals think that a race war is a fantastic idea because they think THEY will win even though they are very much disarmed and blacks are off killing each other.
I know where I live, there is a news blackout on things everyone with eyes can see is real. Example: here in the Twin Cities (MN), you will see the folks from Chicago who come up here and take advantage of the areas social programs such as subsidized housing and food support. How can one spot them? Do you have to be a racist? No, these clowns from Chicago ALL wear the same uniform: Chicago Bulls baseball caps. Chicago Bulls jackets, usually with Michael Jordan on them. Gold earrings, “grills” on their front teeth or at least a gold plated front tooth. And then there’s the almost standard other assorted bling they feel compelled to wear. I have solid, fact-based info on how mush these clowns receive, so I’m not being prejudiced here; it IS worth their while to come up here and sponge–and they do. But this phenomena is taboo to talk about. So is the criminal behavior they bring with them. BTW: I can’t help but think that if vigilantism ever occurs, these Chicago clowns are going to be VERY easy to ID. Where are the black leaders to speak out against this kind of culture in the black community that is so corrosive to them? Nowhere.
The Huff Po headline is funny. ‘Black lives matter’. Not to Politicians. Black votes matter.
‘I am a liberal’. Wow, you were mugged and YOU ARE STILL A LIB?
“…and the collapse of the family structure.”
Ok, Elaine, I am getting a little tired of this. How can you continually trounce black and Mexican Americans for “losing their family structure” when the same thing happened to white Americans a hundred years ago or more before it happened to black and Mexican people?
The only reason you can complain about the collapse of black family structure is because THEY STILL HAVE ONE.
White family structure disintegrated during the Industrial Revolution. I know because I have researched it during my family history project. I also watched my poor grandfather try to keep his 8 brothers and sisters together only to fail in the end as they all went their separate ways. They also got divorced and remarried and lost children and adopted children and never visited their mother, who my grandfather tried to care for from a distance.
White Americans have no family structure now, so there is nothing to complain about regarding that. It cannot collapse further than it already has.
Any group that comes to America to make money will lose their family structure no matter what they do, as the goal here is not to run the family farm for 8 generations, but to get filthy rich by any means possible.
That is always the goal of any capitalist system. If you want family structure that extends beyond atomized families, then you must be willing to drop the capitalist economic model completely for a more traditional economic model.
The fact is, whites still manage to inherit something. This is all about property. And yes, the white families are also disintegrating.
Cities do that to families more than farmland. You need family to work a farm. In cities, children are a burden, not a plus. Except today with welfare. Children are basically supporting their families and then when they become adults, get more kids themselves if female or hang out at momma’s den while going from female to female, producing babies for welfare payments.
This is very destructive because no one ‘works’ but idle hands keep busy finding goodies. Thus, the high crime/kill rates.
If you read about the situation in the American cities during the years after the Civil War, what you find is that gangs of kids were roaming the streets imitating adult gangsters and criminals from the urban slums. In fact, instead of “pretending” to threaten people with a BB gun, white immigrant kids used “real” guns to shot and maim anyone who they thought might have some money, and they were all incarcerated with adult offenders and punished brutally so that when they got out, they sought revenge against those who had brutalized them in prison, i.e. they became criminals for life.
So, what has changed? The skin color?
If that is the only thing that has changed in 100 years, then why are we even talking about this? It will continue because it is the pattern that is set in stone for our country. It has never proceeded in any other direction for any group of people, ever, in the history of our country.
The system is a dead horse, and beating it will not change anything.
Lets just wait til its good and dark to announce the verdict…to maximize the mayhem. Shessh!
“Someone” wants race riots now!
And yes by the next election voters will be begging for a (bigger) police state..I mean “law and order”
this is all going according to plan
All these stories about you being a crime-fighting hero are bullshit, aren’t they Elaine?
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ELAINE: The Daily News called me ‘The Housewife From Hell’. And yes, I did all this stuff and more.
@Willy Nilly: Please go back to the Daily Kos circle jerk, where you are free to insult anybody who threatens your cherished liberal belief system.
White and black crime are quite different.
Not really. Both have the aim to provide personal wealth, profit, comfort and status for the perpetrator.
There is literally more white white collar crime than black white collar crime.
Correct. Because white’s generally have a starting position higher up on the economic totem pole, since whites are wealthier. If you go up high enough on the ladder you will see that white white collar crimes no longer rate as crimes once they reach a scale large enough. So the difference is mostly one of opportunity, social position, scale of the crimes and protection from punishment.
But street crimes are overwhelmingly black crime.
Because that is the environment where the majority of blacks live.
The fact is, whites still manage to inherit something. This is all about property. And yes, the white families are also disintegrating.
Wait a generation or two and the white middle class will have been sucked dry too. The student debt scam is one of the methods they will use to STEAL the rest of the money they didn’t manage to get during the housing bubble scam. This is white collar crime writ large and far removed from the street level, yet far more destructive to a society because it will push the entire society towards the street level of criminality. Apart from the golden white collars who will simply buy protection from the courts, police and military and intelligence services. Now where can we see this in action I wonder.
To be more specific, the white middle class will split exactly where the fault line runs for where white collar crimes become large enough to not be punishable any more but instead protected by the elites running the system.
Those below that fault line will fall into poverty, while those above will prosper after a fashion. The remaining middle class will be much smaller, but also richer and much more fanatical in it’s support for the elites who they will identify with as a social group.
And what will the revolution be? An alliance between unhappy whites and blacks who kill EACH OTHER and anyone else who gets near them? Or will it be a fascist revolt with whites attacking blacks?
Take a wild guess! This is why I am utterly dismayed that the black community has taken the position, thanks to that crook, Al Sharpton, that being out of control and shooting up the hood is the way to go. It most certainly is not.
Furthermore, if blacks go into white communities where there are working class white males, any shoot outs will go very badly with the black shooters. This is painfully obvious because most white guys go hunting for fun, if they use guns whereas few blacks do this.
Revolutions are not voluntary nor are they totally planned. They require specific variables that have to be in place all at once.
Environmental Disaster is one BIG requirement. Because it destroys agriculture and once the starvation hits the middle class THAT is when revolution becomes an option.
A cool headed intelligentsia that knows what is what and who is who. The original American revolutionaries had Tom Paine. I don’t see anyone with his intelligence or logical thinking in modern times.
Truce and Cooperation between the Middle Class, Working Class and the Poor. Elaine is right, the way its going now it will be the Middle Class and Working Class uniting to create a fascist backlash against the Poor. We will not get the united front we had at the beginning of our country. The racist motives of people like Al Sharpton have done their poison. Black people and other minorities will be left out in the cold due to their own madness. And they will be mowed down because white people are the majority. I’ve seen it, I’ve traveled the USA. I’ve seen our numbers (minorities) and we would never win in a race war.
Incorrect. I live in a suburb with plenty of white family structure. It is just north of a county in another state that has a LOT of white family structure. My county also has a predominantly black metropolis where family structure is almost nonexistent.
It used to be called “climbing the socioeconomic ladder.” My family is working toward that goal.
Ron Paul does pretty well. So does his son. We have the disadvantage of having George IIIs equivalent on our own soil, instead of an ocean away. The bankster filth are also much more powerful than they were, thanks to private central banking giving them almost total economic control.
But all is not yet lost.
This was supposed to go between Christian and melponeme; I hate not having a “preview” OR an “edit” function.
Eloi and Morlocks, as I’ve noted before. The only thing Wells gets wrong is not understanding that crony capitalism is what enables this. Free markets do not enable an oligarchy.