Violent Black Felons Make Rap Video About Killing Police

A video made by a group of rap ‘artists’ who all have extensive violent crime convictions including shooting at police, make a video at a L.I. jail which rents out facility to anti-cop rapper for video.  This video complains about police brutality while openly celebrating macho-man convict brutality as a good thing, why, it is revolutionary!  Bang, bang, resist arrest, get out of jail free if you shut down the cops who are now ordered by Obama to not do ‘racial profiling’ because of course, little old white ladies are just as likely to be violent criminals, right?

 

There is considerable proof that the violent rioters in Ferguson were out of town rabble.  Most arrests were of people who were not residents of that unfortunate town.  I noticed that Berkeley and NYC had zero demonstrations during the Ferguson looting spree.

 

Well, they are now back home so for the last week, riots have raged in California: Two officers injured in Berkeley as protests against police killings turn violent and the thugs are up in arms in NYC:  NYPD warned after militant prison gang vows to kill officers over Eric Garner,

 

The rap video just released was made in New York and it shows blacks threatening to murder a cop (who is black) and since the video maker, Mr. Murda (black talk for ‘murder’) who once shot at a cop, this has to be taken very seriously.

 

I actually witnessed a cop being shot in the back of the head by a thief who hid behind him and jumped out to literally assassinated the cop who was merely writing down the complaint of the homeowner who was robbed.  I helped the police catch the guy, being the main witness who saw the entire thing and could ID the killer.

 

Once again, we have to talk about this mess because the demonstrators are on a whinge right now and NYC is increasingly out of control. Obama on Garner and Ferguson protests: ‘As long as they’re peaceful, I think they’re necessary’ except from day one, they were not peaceful at all.

 

City Council Members Block Traffic to Protest Eric Garner Decision | New York Observer

 

“This Council will not remain silent, because black lives matter—because all lives matter. And we are not going to stop until there is reform and justice for all,” Councilwoman Debi Rose, a Staten Island Democrat, said when the members had reached the floor of the council chambers.

 

It amazes me to see the black community leaders insist that the main problem facing black people is the cops killing them.  No mention is made that many of these deaths are due to blacks trying to murder people or resist arrest.  Here are some examples of what is really going wrong, and this week is a normal week when it comes to blacks killing each other and quite significantly, killing other ethnic groups including the Evil Whites.

 

New York police shoot, kill man who stabbed person in synagogue: a black guy who was screaming at the Jews, went berserk and used a knife to try to kill people and was shot dead.  Imagine that!  On a train in Michigan, a black guy ran around trying to kill passengers but was not shot dead in this case.  The police have to take control of very, very violent people.

 

On case this week, a black woman was very angry that a cop hit her in the eye.  He should not have done this but she did admit she kicked him in the face first!  The police are, believe it or not, actual human beings and would prefer people not attack them while they do their jobs.  In return, they also must be careful  not to lose control since they have greater power.

 

There is this thoroughly murky story from the #2 black on black murder capital after Detroit:  Chicago boy, 6, ‘dies after he accidentally shoots himself in the head’ while watching cartoons just months after mom gunned down

 

Law enforcement officials were told that at some point the boy was in a room watching cartoons with other children when he was suddenly shot to death, just after his biological father went outside to smoke a cigarette. A couple of stories have been told about how the child died. In one story, the boy wandered away, found the gun, and shot himself. In another story, the boy was shot accidentally by another child, possibly a cousin. Investigators are still trying to determine who fired the fatal shot…

 

Cattron’s death comes months after his mother, Jasmine Curry, was shot to death in her car on a highway in Chicago. Michael Cattron began staying with his father in July of this year. Michael Cattron and Jasmine Curry’s deaths are not the only tragedies to happen in the family. According to ABC-7, Pierce Leroy Curry, brother to Jasmine Curry, was also killed in a shooting last year.

 

The chances that the father shot the kid accidentally and then told the other children to lie to the cops is very very high.  This is why all the children told, very artlessly, wildly different stories.  No one knows why his mother was shot dead, either.

 

This violent family has other murders, too.  Which is the New Normal for urban black families.  Blacks living in the rural areas don’t have half these problems.  I see a torrent of denial in the ‘liberal’ media and the entire Democratic Party and these attempts at denying the true problem which is the black community internal moral and mental collapse…is not easily solved, is it?

 

De Blasio and Mark-Viverito Knock Giuliani’s Comments on Race | New York Observer

 

Mr. Giuliani said Mayor Bill de Blasio is “making a terrible mistake” in the wake of Eric Garner’s death by emphasizing police killings of black citizens rather than the problem of crime within black communities, something he said “liberal guilty whites” refuse to say is a larger problem.

 

“I really make it a point not to respond to comments like that,” Mr. de Blasio (NYC mayor) told the Observer today at an unrelated Gracie Mansion press conference. “The facts are just so clear. There is a stark problem in this country. We have to come to grips with it, and we have to deal with it.” (referring to the fairly rare white cop/black criminal shot problem)

 

City Council Speaker Melissa Mark-Viverito was a bit more pointed in her criticism.

 

“I think it’s really it’s hard to contain myself when comments like that are made, which I think are really misinformed and lack any knowledge of systemic biases that exist,” Ms. Mark-Viverito told the Observer at a City Hall press conference. “I think what he said is unfortunate. I don’t think it really speaks to the reality that many people feel, and I’ll leave it at that.”

 

The ‘bias’ is, blacks commit by far the most murders per capita and are nearly 100% responsible for the high rate of murder in our cities. They are killing themselves and all this yelling about ‘breathing’ and ‘hands up’ is a Potemkin Village gesture to paper over the real problems.

 

No one wants to be around violent killers!  This is why many people move away from neighborhoods dominated by black people.  No one wants to hire people who have a chip on the shoulder.  And blacks have been fooled into joining forces with Hispanics who are flooding into the US to provide cheaper labor and to displace blacks who don’t have a college education.

 

The Democrats want both to be petted and courted even though both are totally at odds with each other.  5 million work permits are being handed out to illegal aliens taking away black jobs thanks to black President Obama.  How blacks think this will make their lives better baffles me.  Of all people, they should be angriest about this.

 

And they should also do some soul searching, a good hard look in the mirror instead of blaming white people for their problems.  The problem IS white ELITES, by the way, many of whom are also Democrats.  But these same people are leading the black community off the cliff.

 

And the Republicans are outright hostile and have rebuilt the Solid White South again thanks to the last election. There are no more black leaders from the South in the DC government anymore.  The remaining ones are all inner city, mainly West coastal or NE representatives.  And the ones from the West Coast will be voted out of office and replaced with Hispanics pretty soon.

 


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  1. melponeme_k

    One story about rap that is frequently buried is that the odious violent/misogynistic turn occurred when major record companies took an interest in it. The popular story is that many early rappers wrote songs against black vs black violence, crime, drugs, broken homes and other social problems facing the black community. As rap took off in popularity the social commentators were discouraged and felons encouraged.

    I can vouch for this partly. I worked at a music magazine that focused on r&b, rap. The amount of collect calls from prisons this magazine used to accept probably amounted to a large fortune. Every day, mail would arrive with music submissions from felons in jail.

    The industry encourages the thug lifestyle and mindset. It makes them money and they have no reason to change. And, unfortunately, people judge their reality by media. I used to talk with another person online in my VR Tech circles, he used his own term for this problem. He called it MIPS, Media Induced Psychosis. He was a big fan of McLuhan.

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    ELAINE: You have a SERIOUSLY interesting history! I am amazed.

  2. melponeme_k

    [video src="http://marshallmcluhanspeaks.com/mov/say_007.mp4" /]

  3. vengeur

    LOL. The gansta video above is sponsored by “Pawn rite” How appropriate!

  4. vengeur

    In the video: “One black man is killed every hour by police or vigilantes”. Anybody believe that?

  5. vengeur

    “Every 28 hours” and I STILL don’t believe it.

  6. Luke

    Its about one a day killed by police. Since police are killed at work and Blacks in USA commit most of the murders its understandable those facts are omitted.

    There was a lawsuit over a ‘rap recording’ called ‘Cop Killer’.

  7. Christian W

    The industry encourages the thug lifestyle and mindset. It makes them money and they have no reason to change. And, unfortunately, people judge their reality by media. I used to talk with another person online in my VR Tech circles, he used his own term for this problem. He called it MIPS, Media Induced Psychosis. He was a big fan of McLuhan.

    I agree, I’ve said so before. The current mess is encouraged because a lot of people are profiting from the misery, insanity, deprivation and desperation. The elites are using the black thug culture as a gun aimed at the white middle class. This neatly stops the middle class from going after the elites; which is what the middle class has to do to stop the insane loop. The middle class is afraid of losing what it has left, which over time will doom most of the middle class to lose what it has left as the elites loot everything. “MIPS” is simply brain washing.

    In Germany Merkel has started a process of de-industrializing Germany. Since the EU sanctions against Russia Europe has naturally lost trade with Russia. However, trade between Russia and the US has increased. Some German politicians are now openly and directly accusing Merkel of being a US agent (which is pretty obviously the case).

    Dismantling industry means destroying unions, combine that with flood the nation with cheap foreign labor, and bought and paid for politicians, and you are setting Europe up for economic asset stripping and looting of the economies.

    “War on Drugs” is a war on the working class and blacks.
    “War on Terror” is a war on the middle class.
    “War on Russia” is the key for the elites to split global society into an insulated unchallenged global elite lording it over the peon masses.

  8. Narciso

    The police avoid targeting white drug buyers and give whites lenient sentences but then throw the books at minorities for selling drugs and committing crimes. Geez i wonder where the black rage is coming from?

    I don’t see you or any of these self righteous commentators complaining about the unfairness of the “justice system” because its obvious that as long as you and yours are “Protected” from the thugz its all cool.

    Shame on Elaine and all these comments about the ghetto blacks being murderers and responsible for their violent behavior against themselves and poor innocent whites. Blacks act the way they do because whites have been torturing and baiting them for decades. Easy for you as a white person to pretend that hard work is all you need when its obvious that whites have and continue to monopolize resources for themselves.

    Most Blacks do blames white for all their problems but it not like white people are innocent on the scapegoating of others. White people love to blame ghetto blacks, criminal aliens, Zionist jews, bankers, wallstreet, etc while pretending that they are innocent little lambs. Whites are the majority and have been voting for gangsterism and imperialism from the get go.

    The US government was racist from its founding and the imperial conquest started right off the bat. It never ceases to amaze me that whites are now whining that our imperial elites are now throwing them under the bus. It was bound to happen, all empires cease to expand and end up having to consume the peasants once the foreign loot stops coming in.

    Lots of complaints about Jews, blacks, illegal aliens, China, sheeple, etc. These comments on the Elaine rants on blacks are ridiculous. Lots of self righteous whites bashing blacks for refusing to look in the mirror yet i don’t see much critical looks at how whites have aided and abetted US gangsterism since its founding.

    Its obvious that not everyone cheerleads imperial looting just like its obvious that blacks and poor people are not in full control of their own destinies. There is no way for a poor person with a bad education (don’t even pretend that life is fair and that we all start off with the same opportunities) to escape their situation when the jobs on hand are terrible or non-existent.

    We are all being screwed but whites continue to pretend that they are entitled to something extra because they are the “real” Americans. Hate to break it to you but the demographics are clear that divide and conquer in the United States is only going to accelerate from here on.

    The whole race war farce is like a white and black psychosis that things will magically go back to the 50’s status quo once all the “nonwhite/nonblack” people are killed off. The Census bureau has like 1.94 million out of the 3.98 million births being white so its clear that if we continue on the present course of bashing the “other” we will be incapable of challenging the elite.

  9. e sutton

    “War on Drugs” is a war on the working class and blacks.
    “War on Terror” is a war on the middle class.
    “War on Russia” is the key for the elites to split global society into an insulated unchallenged global elite lording it over the peon masses.

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    Well said, ChristianW. Actually, the whole response was very good and sums up the global game pretty neatly. But there is one thing the elite didn’t count on. Vladimir Putin. He is a formidable force. They have created a very powerful foe. Underestimating him will prove their undoing. Count on it.

  10. e sutton

    @Narcisco,
    You’ll get no argument from me that blacks have gotten a shitty deal in this country from its inception. It’s called capitalism and we’re all somebody else’s bitch. Any white person who claims all blacks have inherited a windfall through welfare in just 50 years is delusional. Welfare is essential to a functioning society. It was never meant to be a generational program. As it is, our country loves to spend most of its cash on the war machine. No white person would give a fig if blacks stayed on welfare if we could balance the budget. We are going bankrupt. Welfare is good to have but it, along with everything else we’re all used to (SS, Medicare,) are about to go. However, it is what it is, and it’s time to pull your big boy pants on and quit the ranting and raving. Divide and conquer is what the elite are counting on. You are quite correct. Blacks need to start taking the lead in moving their left behind brethren behind. YT is tired of doing it. The well has run dry.

  11. lcs

    Actually the two ni**ers in your photo are pointing the guns at each other, because they are arguing about which one gets to shoot the cop. As a result they will kill each other, since that is how such disputes always end in their world.

  12. melponeme_k

    “Lots of complaints about Jews, blacks, illegal aliens, China, sheeple, etc. These comments on the Elaine rants on blacks are ridiculous.”

    You have learned nothing from the debates here. You are just intent on feeling persecuted or keeping minorities in a persecuted position. Do you feel that gives you or minorities the right to demand more from society? I’m curious.

    As a Native American I refuse to give in to persecution culture. It leads nowhere. Instead I want to meet culture head on. I don’t want to be token, I want to be a citizen with full rights of a citizen. And that means taking on the responsibility of a citizen. Sometimes racism is real. Many times it is self induced and exists only in the mind of a person in the persecution mindset.

    I traveled to Taos, New Mexico. All along the streets were Native sellers of jewelry and other Native arts. They sat isolated on streets but I NEVER saw them in the shops or restaurants or tourist sites. Why? Did they think they were not wanted? Let me tell, I look Native. I walked around Taos into many restaurants, shops etc and no one ever looked twice at me.

    When minorities isolate themselves, when they refuse to take part in the greater culture, they will be held apart. They will be other. Which is why former immigrants got rid of their former language to learn english double quick in the past. They wanted to take part in the mass American culture. Why accept a self imposed prison by not learning English, by not attending school etc.?

    It isn’t White culture. It is mass culture. It is culture that is successful. Refusing it to embrace persecution puts you in the perpetual victim role. And humans, animals that we are, never tire of kicking dogs when they are down.

    Yes, Blacks face racism. All minorities face racism. But the crux of the problem is to get rid of Thug/Victim persecution minority culture in order to fight racism on higher moral ground. A criminal shouting racism is never going to be morally righteous. They will always be suspect. But a law abiding citizen shouting the same will always have support. Of course, our media, such as it is, supporting persecution mindset will ignore the law abiding minority every time in favor of a Thug.

  13. John

    Bravo, melponeme_k! That’s exactly correct.

  14. emsnews

    I concur. You have laid out a great deal of your personal life here, Melponeme_k. Thank you.

    The Holocaust has destroyed the Jewish people. They obsess about Nazis while turning into Nazi replicas.

    Native Americans: I grew up on tribal land and had a wonderful childhood because of it. During the 1950’s cowboy and Indian mania, no less! What a weird world THAT was!

    I remember it being illegal to sell booze to natives. Then the laws were changed and freedom came…and with it, horrific levels of alcoholism. It wrecked the village where I used to play in the old days.

    It broke the back of the native tribes. They all suffer from this and they fixed things by bringing in GAMBLING…which has been a tormented, hideous disaster.

    It was a bad moral choice. Corruption, murder, hatred, greed: all took over a people who used to think and act as a TRIBE, a huge family, of poverty but tons of love and trust. All gone.

    I can’t tell you all how sad that makes me. Wealth often brings great horrors in its wake. The destruction of tribes in many places is the price we all pay.

  15. Narciso

    RE: melponeme_k
    “You have learned nothing from the debates here. You are just intent on feeling persecuted or keeping minorities in a persecuted position.

    I see that you built yourself a nice strawman there. I don’t subscribe to the opression olympics based on color, ethnicity, etc. Your entire comment can be straight from vdare or Stormfront.

    1. “Do you feel that gives you or minorities the right to demand more from society?”

    Apparently i want a handout because i’m an entitled parasite. America for white people uber alles.

    2. “Sometimes racism is real. Many times it is self induced and exists only in the mind of a person in the persecution mindset”

    Apparently systemic discrimination is a figment of my imagination or worse yet i’m responsible for it. Women, blacks, Hispanics, immigrants, etc never were oppressed. Its just in my mind that blacks were enslaved, Native Americans exterminated, etc. White people weren’t responsible for any of that behavior because it was “self-induced or imagined”.

    3. “When minorities isolate themselves, when they refuse to take part in the greater culture, they will be held apart. They will be other. Which is why former immigrants got rid of their former language to learn english double quick in the past. They wanted to take part in the mass American culture. Why accept a self imposed prison by not learning English, by not attending school etc.?”

    Right because white people didn’t have housing covenants, they didn’t create ‘separate but equal” schools and all that other welcoming bs. Lol, apparently i don’t speak English, didn’t attend school (homeschooling is overwhelmingly a white phenomenon) and refuse to take part in American Culture.

    4. “It isn’t White culture. It is mass culture. It is culture that is successful. Refusing it to embrace persecution puts you in the perpetual victim role…

    Less is more, “Love america or leave!!!” Seriously, i’m not the one with a chip on my shoulder.

    I pointed out the obvious that the US was founded as a racist imperialist nation that is now turning against all of us since the foreign gravy train is ending. The US expanded by ruthless enslavement of blacks, murder of native americans, and theft of land from the aforementioned and Mexico. We extract tribute from the rest of the world but the problem is that its not enough to make up for the huge derivatives fraud collapsing and eating up all the loot stolen from peasants from around the world.

    We are now going to be looted to keep the wealthy living in the opulence that they believe that they are entitled to. Divide and conquer is the name and its clear that Elaine has fallen for it.

    Elaine keeps ranting about blacks imploding and how they need to look in the mirror and provide cover to the whole stop the illegal peasant invasion from the south. It strikes me as crocodile tears since i don’t see any lets improve the education system and help improve their work skills on the collective credit card. Its all the same they need to look in the mirror and pull themselves up by their boot straps nonsense.

    Blacks, illegal aliens, global warming, Zionist jews, vaccines = autism, etc are nothing more than equivalent to the Ebola scare tactics to frighten whites into chasing their own shadows instead of attacking the 1%. Mass deception is the game and its highly effective.

    The emotional appeals to tribalism are blatant from the media. Blacks are being baited and used to scare whites and now that immigration has slowed down with the collapse of construction industry. The ebola scare was a wake up call for me, I saw exactly how i was manipulated into denouncing the disease rat (thomas duncan) as well as demanding the head of the ebola nurse. I don’t like the ebola nurse but its clear that she was manipulated into thinking she had the public’s support in defying the quarantine order.

    Elaine may not realize it but its quite clear that her rants against criminal illegals and feral thug black culture show how effective the media is at pandering to latent tribalism.

    We are either all Americans irregardless of our color, religion, gender or we are just lumpen proletariat destined to the slaughter. We all have the same enemy (the rich) but the ruling elite are spectacularly effective in getting all of us fighting for the table scraps instead of demanding a more equitable distribution of power and wealth.

    We are going through the same banking crisis that we had in the great depression (elite scams collapsing the banking sector and then the entire economy). The same rabble rousing is being used to blame everyone and anyone but the true criminals.

  16. melponeme_k

    “Apparently systemic discrimination is a figment of my imagination or worse yet i’m responsible for it. Women, blacks, Hispanics, immigrants, etc never were oppressed. Its just in my mind that blacks were enslaved, Native Americans exterminated, etc.”

    Where in my comment or any comment on this webpage stated that? That is YOU imposing that view on everyone here. Yes, there is racism. I’ve seen it, I’ve experienced it. But I’ve also been in situations where people isolate themselves due to victim mindset. A mindset you seem to want to perpetuate.

    “Apparently i want a handout because i’m an entitled parasite. America for white people uber alles.”

    Again confabulation. But the notion that minorities deserve an extra leg up in education, in welfare etc. has shown to destroy us culturally not help. No one appreciates freebies, it dulls the senses and leads to entitlement.

    “Right because white people didn’t have housing covenants, they didn’t create ‘separate but equal” schools and all that other welcoming bs. Lol, apparently i don’t speak English, didn’t attend school (homeschooling is overwhelmingly a white phenomenon) and refuse to take part in American Culture.”

    There were separate schools, there was segregation. No one here said there wasn’t . BUT THERE ISN’T NOW. And what do you think happened? Where are all the minority education stars now? It is a problem of culture which many minorities have. I’m sorry but it is true, current Black, Native American, Hispanic cultures are FAILURES. Why aren’t the Asian’s failing? They face racism! Yet they are in the top percentile in schools across the country. I don’t see them screaming that culture is white.

    And that is where you are failing. Culture is nothing but a mouse trap. What many minorities are doing is throwing out the better mousetrap for failed ones. Simply because they label the better mousetrap as being White. Believe me Mr. the elite want to keep that mousetrap all to themselves. They don’t long for the days before the civil rights movement. They long for the Medieval Ages! They hate the fact that there is public education. They want it all for themselves All of it. They want science, they want music, they want drama they want it all to themselves.

    But all this is lost on you. You want to keep being angry. Go ahead. No one is stopping you. But greater society hates being around angry people. They avoid it. So when you are being avoided please try to properly determine if it is racism or just that you are a miserable person to be around.

  17. emsnews

    One problem with blaming others is, you NEVER fix what is wrong. Instead, one wants someone else who really doesn’t give a damn, to fix problems that affect oneself.

    WORD OF WARNING: black riots, college student riots, burning and looting DOES NOT FIX ANYTHING. It makes things WORSE.

    Got that? WORSE! If you are unhappy about conditions, take control. I have done it and did it in black neighborhoods, no less. It is possible! You can make things work better but this takes a lot of time, is dangerous and is tiresome but you can do it.

    If you need to fight someone else, you have to see who is really hurting you.

    In the black community it is painfully obvious: blacks hate each other a great deal and kill each other nearly nonstop now. And they steal from each other and force the women to have children with no males raising their children, who are pushed into the streets to DIE…at each other’s hands!

    Anyone who thinks ‘black lives matter’ better start working hard to stop this self-destructioin, self-hatred, self-abuse.

  18. Narciso

    RE: melponeme_k

    “Where in my comment or any comment on this webpage stated that?”

    You stated it right there in your comment, “Sometimes racism is real. MANY TIMES IT IS SELF INDUCED AND EXISTS ONLY IN THE MIND OF A PERSON IN THE PERSECUTION MINDSET.”

    Again You’re the one that’s presuming that i’m a race hustler when i point out the obvious that you have a huge chip on your shoulder. Seriously you have a lot of self hate in demanding that everyone join the borg culture of consumption and white worship.

    “It is a problem of culture which many minorities have. I’m sorry but it is true, current Black, Native American, Hispanic cultures are FAILURES.”

    Lol, no wonder lots of whites loves you. Wow, condemning entire groups of people as failures is rather pathetic.

    “There were separate schools, there was segregation. No one here said there wasn’t . BUT THERE ISN’T NOW. And what do you think happened? Where are all the minority education stars now?”

    Lol, “education star” is pretty amusing and presumes that bad education is at fault for our imperial collapse. Btw, there have never been so called, “minority education stars” because the education system was never built to train anything but minimally trained worker bees.

    “But all this is lost on you. You want to keep being angry. Go ahead. No one is stopping you”

    This is called psychological projection. Its sad but i’m not the one that is angry at the world for laughing at you for being slavishly in love with whites. Human beings have the right to exist however they wish and its laughable to demand that they all put up a shrine to some so called, “mighty whitey.”

    RE: elaine

    “One problem with blaming others is, you NEVER fix what is wrong. Instead, one wants someone else who really doesn’t give a damn, to fix problems that affect oneself.”

    That exactly what you’re doing blaming blacks, illegals, jews, china, etc for our internal failures as a country. Its not white people’s fault that our government is trying to conqueror the entire world its all the foreign peasants and blacks fault for our internal social and economic collapse. Its like you expect minorities to some how save America by somehow stop being peasants. Do explain how hipsters, global warmist, tea partiers, gay rights hustlers, etc are somehow fixing the problems affecting America.

    “In the black community it is painfully obvious: blacks hate each other a great deal and kill each other nearly nonstop now. And they steal from each other…”

    White people kill helpless muslim peasants with drone strikes, they built a nice torture facility in cuba and they rob not just americans but plunder entire foreign nations. Oh right, its the illegals, china’s 50 year plan, jews, or our half white/black judas goat Obama’s fault.

    The reality is that your rants against illegals, thugs culture, and minorities refusing to look in the mirror are just you dodging the fact that whites collectively refuse to take any responsibility for any of their behaviors and history of imperial looting operations.

    apparently, Its the fault of Zionist that we are bombing muslims, attacking Russia and China. Its the fault of illegals that they are “invading us” due to us dumping subsidized agricultural and other goods on their markets. Its the fault of blacks that whites are crack heads (legal drugs sound nice but its just legalized highs), etc.

    We live in an empire that is over extended and is having trouble robbing enough loot to keep our elites frauds hidden. Its obvious that all of us peasants are now going to be plundered to help keep our elite in the comfort that they are used to.

    Its easy bashing blacks, illegals, jews, etc its much harder to pin the blame on the majority that decided that its everyone’s fault but theirs. Its the same old scapegoating the dark savages, jews, and appropriate foreign Klingon enemy out to rob us of our way of life.

    The simply reality is that we were founded as a imperial expansive looting operation that believes that it has to expand or die. Its quite clear that Elaine doesn’t mind us plundering foreign nations of their natural resources so that we can consume 25% of the world natural resources with less than 5% of the population. Elaine just wants a more effective imperial state that keeps the foreign peasants and the black thugz away from her mountain.

    Elaine is just uncomfortable that we are a hugely diverse nation now that its impossible to put any one group on a pedestal while pinning all the blame on visible and powerless minorities.

    Apparently its minorities fault that we subsidize Japan, Europe, and Israel’s imperial dreams in return for their diplomatic cover on our imperial bombing campaigns.

    What i fail to see is what bashing blacks, Illegals, jews is supposed to accomplish? Are we suddenly going to cut lose Nato, Israel, and Japan when all the minorities start putting up the “white worship shrines” and hit the books and stop being “thugz?”

  19. emsnews

    Wrong on nearly every point.

    Harsh reality: the Tea Party was doing things that its members thought would help THEM, they were not appealing to illegal aliens or blacks. They succeeded to a small level but were suckered by the rich bankers and thus nullified.

    Twisting and turning stuff into straw man arguments by pretending that I and others here said things we never said or things we carefully explain means you are DESPERATE to win your own arguments via basically lying about what everyone is saying.

    That is quite sad.

    Minorities are NOT ‘powerless’. Pretending they are is your delusions, not reality. Illegal aliens are also not ‘powerless’ either. They have considerable pull in the Democratic Party and blacks have HUGE pull there and this is why the party has been falling apart since Illegals and blacks have totally different agendas.

    And of course, expecting white women to vote Democrat, too, while demonizing their sons has been a total failure and gets worse by the week and is definitely turning the Democrats into a minority-only party. No allies=political weakness that the blacks and illegal aliens hope to fix by flooding the country with…illegal aliens!

    Amazing! Very bad strategy especially since these same Democrats boast about this nefarious plan. This is definitely flushing out the remaining white women voters.

  20. Christian W

    This may be an aside, but what do female voters hope to gain by voting GOP? Not long ago Elaine was railing against the misogynist anti-abortion Christian fundamentalist tax hating Tea Party GOP. And now this very same party is suddenly supposed to be some kind of saviour party? Please.

  21. Narciso

    Re: Elaine
    “Wrong on nearly every point.”

    Exactly what point did i make that is wrong? Quoting is quite easy and allows someone to respond intelligently to complaints that someone’s opinion is incorrect. How to go about responding to such an elegant response, “wrong on nearly every point.”

    “Twisting and turning stuff into straw man arguments by pretending that I and others here said things we never said or things we carefully explain means you are DESPERATE to win your own arguments via basically lying about what everyone is saying.”

    Exactly what lie? I don’t see any careful explanation or specifics anywhere in your or melponeme comments. Do point out the lie/strawman? I have an opinion that you have trouble dealing with. Its life not to agree with everything people write it doesn’t make them desperate liars. Calling me a desperate liar is not exactly a very good rebuttal to my comments pointing out that the black thug rants are ridiculous.

    ΩΩΩ

    ELAINE; Since you are here mainly to argue, you MUST strive to read more carefully instead of throwing abuse at everyone while deliberately refusing to read all of what we say, too. I don’t mind arguments, I resent a refusal to go back in my blog and read carefully as I build my positions. Your accusations are ridiculous because they don’t reflect reality of what we are actually striving to say..\

    ΩΩΩ

    ΩΩΩ

    Since your comment includes me supposedly slandering Melponeme i’ll respond to her idea that everyone but white people are cultural failures and we all need to get with the “white” program. This is not a strawman creation that i cooked up but something that she directly stated, “I’m sorry but it is true, current Black, Native American, Hispanic cultures are FAILURES.” Apparently Culture failure is something that can magically be blamed for all past discrimination and the present day racial inequity. It follows that Melponeme is implying that all “culture failures” have to do is choose the “white moustrap” and poof we are all living in McMansions in orderly neighborhoods. I guess blacks, native americans and illegals need to start ordering “white culture” to replace their failed ones. By cheer leading her comments its clear that you indulge in the same idea of culture failure being the cause of families disintegrating in the US.

    Having a subculture is quite common because people have to adapt to different climates, resources endowments, etc. Diversity occurs because the planet requires people to live differently due to geographic and climatic differences. Its strikes me as the false idea that what is defined as “white” is success and everyone else needs to get with the program and stop whining that whites somehow plundered and murdered their way to the top of the totem pole.

    Well back to your complaint, “Minorities are NOT ‘powerless’. Pretending they are is your delusions, not reality. Illegal aliens are also not ‘powerless’ either. They have considerable pull in the Democratic Party and blacks have HUGE pull there and this is why the party has been falling apart since Illegals and blacks have totally different agendas”

    Its pretty obvious that minorities don’t control any political party. The democratic party isn’t controlled by blacks or illegals but by the same corporations that control the entire political system. Apparently minorities control everything and are oppressing poor Elaine. Not sure how you can argue the absurd claim that illegals and blacks are somehow powerful and in charge.

    ΩΩΩ

    ELAINE: You have a problem with the use of words. ‘INFLUENCE’ doesn’t mean ‘CONTROL’ at all. Got that? The elites who have money control both parties. But various groups of people have influence within these constrictions. An easy concept to understand. White males IN GENERAL as a group of voters, not buyers of votes, have zero influence on the Democratic Party and gigantic influence on the Republican Party.

    Illegal aliens have influence on the Democrats precisely because the rich elites who fund that party use illegal aliens as servants and other humble roles and therefore must pander to the group to keep power over them holding out citizenship as a lure. See?

    ΩΩΩ
    “And of course, expecting white women to vote Democrat, too, while demonizing their sons has been a total failure and gets worse by the week and is definitely turning the Democrats into a minority-only party”

    Exactly what do you expect me to read from this rant? it follows that you are arguing that whites are being oppressed by the illegals and blacks that control the democratic party.

    ΩΩΩ

    ELAINE: This sentence reveals exactly what I pointed out earlier: you jump to odd conclusions based on rage and hate not logic. I never, ever argued that whites are oppressed by illegal aliens, I explain how illegal workers are being USED by the rich to replace citizens who work in many trades, driving down wages.

    Blacks are not driving down wages at all, they are being eliminated as useful workers and confined increasingly in ghettoes where their response has been to become unruly, ungovernable and violent. This is BAD for them and for anyone near them which isolates them further.

    The fact that the only party that attracts blacks is also destroying them is important to understand if you are worried about the survival of blacks as a population.

    ΩΩΩ

    Here is the whole damn thing: “Minorities are NOT ‘powerless’. Pretending they are is your delusions, not reality. Illegal aliens are also not ‘powerless’ either. They have considerable pull in the Democratic Party and blacks have HUGE pull there and this is why the party has been falling apart since Illegals and blacks have totally different agendas. And of course, expecting white women to vote Democrat, too, while demonizing their sons has been a total failure and gets worse by the week and is definitely turning the Democrats into a minority-only party. No allies=political weakness that the blacks and illegal aliens hope to fix by flooding the country with…illegal aliens!”

    Its a logical reading of your comment to conclude the following:

    You are resentful that you lost “your” democratic party to blacks and illegals. The reason being that blacks and illegals use their pull in the democratic party to monopolize it while increasing the demonization of white males. It basic reading comprehension that you believe blacks and illegals are destroying the democratic party by demonizing white males and somehow being responsible for the “alien invasion.”

    From previous post you want the democratic party to support gay marriage, free solar panels for Elaine, deport illegals, treat blacks with tough love, and generally cater to the whims of Elaine. Now i understand that is somewhat hyperbole but quite frankly its not like you are treating my comments with anything but disdain.

    ΩΩΩ

    ELAINE: Typically of ‘liberals’ they want to allow a flood of illegal labor to come into a country and destroy the citizens who are the workers struggling to survive. This is insanity. If you wish to live in such a fashion, be prepared to fight to the death with people alarmed that they are being eliminated and replaced with foreign, cheap labor that has no power to stop the rich from exploiting them ruthlessly.

    Hint: you can deport any aliens who try to unionize. You can’t do this to citizens.

    ΩΩΩ

    Its like History doesn’t matter to Elaine and anything bad whites did (genocide, enslavement, lynching, segregation, economic and educational discrimination, etc) magically doesn’t have anything to do with today. Its all the cultural failure of blacks, illegals, etc.

    If people want to bash my opinion that’s perfectly fine but at least make an effort to attack what i write instead of implying i’m a race hustler, desperate liar, crafter of strawmen, and all those personal attacks.

  22. Luke

    ‘The US expanded by ruthless enslavement of blacks’. Slavery started in Africa and is ongoing there and in Middle east. Sorry.

    The USA slaves today are the Whites. Here,boy says to his mama, Mama what is socialism and racism?

    His momma says, son socialism is when all the white people goes to work everyday so that we can have all of our free stuff.
    Like free housing, free food, free medical, free tv, free cell phones, free internet, and even free Christmas presents. That’s socialism.

    Little boy says, but mama, don’t da white people be pissed off about that?

    Mama says yes, they is, and that’s what you call racism.

  23. Pontiff Holysh*t

    Go Narciso! I like seeing someone that is not intimidated away from forcefully challenging the proffered propaganda!

    But the point is that the civil rights movement, going back even to the 1800s, was all about fighting for the right to be educated. And I am not just talking about the right to a public education, but the individual right to pursue intellectual advancement. After all, ignorance is not strength. The movement was all about taking pride in proving the capability of matching whites intellectually. And for a long time, there was progress in elevating blacks. Obviously, there were and are a lot of racist people fighting against this, so results were not as good as could be.

    But then, something changed. I won’t go into any details, there is plenty written about this on this blog and all over the place. And the point is that by and large it wasn’t white people that changed. There have always been liberal whites and racist crackers.

    If American blacks have any interest in working towards achieving defacto equality, they are going to need the help of liberal whites. Without liberal whites, there are no 13th, 14th, and 15th, Amendments, no Civil Rights act, etc. But, at the end of the day, not even liberal whites will let their ideals stand in the way of their sense of self-preservation.

    For example, my parents were liberals in the1960s. They left the civil rights movement after the Watts riots.

  24. emsnews

    I am very liberal. And also understand how societies survive. The black survival tactics used today don’t work very long because it is very destructive…TO BLACKS.

    Each generation is worse off than the previous one. Each is increasingly defiant while at the same time, irresponsible. Each generation encourages crime more and more, look at the entertainment now flooding our ghettos, rendering children nearly totally unable to learn anything in school after the age of 8.

    This destruction of the black working class and its destructive embrace of uncivil and criminal behaviors has caused liberal whites to flee schools with black children, for example.

    This cannot be fixed by forcing white children to go to school with children who are hostile to schools and attacking these schools nearly nonstop. It just won’t happen in any real world.

    And it can’t be fixed by whites backing off even further and not even trying to get some sort of law and order in black communities.

  25. melponeme_k

    @Narcisco

    I’m getting a measure on you. It is interesting how you completely ignore the fact that I am a minority and I write from experience. But you however make no claims based on experience. I would venture to say that you are not a minority. You are one of those “liberal” white people who bamboozled by propaganda. And oh how you think you hit the motherlode on this website. There you are, white knight, fighting against all those rednecks Fox watchers. Bravo you!

    Except that isn’t the case. I’m not a Fox watcher, I was never a Republican and my face is brown. It was brown yesterday, is today and will be until I die. I’m telling you Elaine is right in this argument.

    “Btw, there have never been so called, “minority education stars” because the education system was never built to train anything but minimally trained worker bees.”

    You ignored my point about Asian citizens. Are they not minorities to you? Do they not experience racism? They were used as abused labor to build our whole train network (one that is now being allowed to rot) during the manifest destiny days. Was that not suffering?

    Let me tell you from my minority experience. I lived in the Florida panhandle, right on the Alabama border. DEEP SOUTH. You can’t get any south than that. All the kids in my school were blonde haired and blue eyed. You can imagine how much I stood out. In their childish eagerness, they would make fun of my minority features. Their ignorance of my background was that they always mistook me for a Chinese american. Every day I would have a kid pull their eyes at me and say Ching, Chang, Chong. Luckily I had a good teacher who didn’t allow the hazing to get out of control and my parents told me not to feel bad only to pity my classmates ignorance. I look back and find it pathetic now. Especially since I started to learn Mandarin. Its a beautiful language, brutally simple in its grammar yet a change in intonation will alter a word’s whole meaning.

    So based on my experience I can vouch for Asian Americans experiencing very dire racism. But you don’t include them in your “heroic savior” speeches for minorities.

    Is it because they do well in a minimally worker bee schools? They don’t seem to think of our schools as being worthless. In fact they attend Harvard, MIT, Yale, Stanford etc. in high numbers every year. The majority of them coming from public schools.

    Their “sub-culture” is obviously successful. The “sub-culture” of Blacks, Native Americans and a great many Hispanics are not successful.

    In fact failed Native American culture has a name for me. They call Native American kids who do well in school and in greater culture “Apples”. As in red on the outside, white on the inside. This failed “sub-culture” will get nowhere when they label any success their children achieve as white and pandering to racists. And I’ve seen the failure first hand on reservations torn apart by alcoholism and gambling. There is no need for it.

    “I guess blacks, native americans and illegals need to start ordering “white culture” to replace their failed ones. ”

    You aren’t a minority. Thank you for confirming it.

  26. emsnews

    The more I read you, the more amazed I am.

    My grandson is half Chinese. His mom and dad are teaching him Chinese as well as English, of course.

    All successful immigrants celebrate their homelands while learning how to cement a new life here which means a common language (like Latin of yore) to expedite communication.

    Yes, English is the international language due to political power just like French was before Napoleon.

    And eventually it will be Chinese as their star ascends.

    The main thing is, what works and what is failing?

  27. Luc

    ‘what works and what is failing?’
    I can tell you what is ruining the environment and culture of the USA, immigration. Legal and illegal. re conquista.

  28. Christian W

    Luc, can you expand on what US culture is please? I honestly would like to know how you see it.

  29. Christian W

    The police are, believe it or not, actual human beings and would prefer people not attack them while they do their jobs. In return, they also must be careful not to lose control since they have greater power.

    The police officer that shot the 12 yo kid with the BB gun had been forced to leave another position as police officer because he was evaluated as not stable enough under stress. That is a pretty serious charge for a person given the power to shoot other people if deemed necessary.

    The officer that had a choke hold on Eric Garner also has a history of being quick to use force.

  30. Luc

    From Kunstlers blog, a comment,

    The Druid is the kind of guy who has never been punched in the face. Perhaps it would be good for him? Check out this guy: the look on his face is priceless. He’s an old hippie dude with a “Stop Killing Black Men” t shirt. He tried to stop a Black kid from looting so the Black hit him in the head with a hammer. His whole philosophy of Life has been shown to be a delusion. Pretty good wages for one little bash.

    http://www.amren.com/news/2014/12/protesters-in-california-clash-with-police-and-vandalize-store

  31. Luc

    Christian, ‘ I honestly would like to know how you see it’. I start with the English language and American history. I doubt small minds like yours will agree.

  32. Christian W

    Christian, ‘ I honestly would like to know how you see it’. I start with the English language and American history. I doubt small minds like yours will agree

    I see why you don’t see Blacks and Natives as part of American culture. It is pretty clear they have a huge problem as seeing themselves as part of that as well. If you scratch the surface it isn’t hard to see why. They keep getting sold out and used for profit by the superior culture they are supposed to embrace as their own.

    It is not only the Black and Native American cultures that have very serious problems. White culture is not any better, it is just better at covering up it’s insanity and export it’s problems, simply because it has much more power and reach. Watch how the CIA tortures will not be prosecuted any more than US/NATO/Israeli military war crimes and crimes against humanity are prosecuted.

    It is easy to point fingers at other communities and demand they fix themselves. But I don’t see any huge movement in the white middle class in the US actually taking on the elites to fix the insanity. Even when the US elites are destroying entire nations in their relentless drive for profits and power are on the brink to take the world to nuclear war the white middle class are just sitting on their butts watching sports, drinking beer and going about their lives as normal.

    The white middle class is crucial in stopping the insanity, because it is the only thing that can directly influence the US power elite, either directly (voting) or indirectly (abandoning support of the elites). As long as the white middle class is standing behind the elites, which is the case now a little bitching apart, the world will be inexorably pushed towards a new world war.

    Do you think the Russians want to take the role of the next generation Blacks or Native Americans, their culture smashed and looted by the superior American culture? This already happened once after the collapse of the Soviet Union. Do you think the Chinese will let the same thing happen again (remember they were smashed to bits and looted as well).

    That will simply not happen again.

    It is time for the white middle class to take a good look at itself and where it is going.

  33. Christian W

    Oops sorry about the formatting mistake.

  34. Christian W

    Posting it again to make it readable. Elaine can you please remove the previous post.

    Christian, ‘ I honestly would like to know how you see it’. I start with the English language and American history. I doubt small minds like yours will agree.

    I see why you don’t see Blacks and Natives as part of American culture. It is pretty clear they have a huge problem as seeing themselves as part of that as well. If you scratch the surface it isn’t hard to see why. They keep getting sold out and used for profit by the superior culture they are supposed to embrace as their own.

    It is not only the Black and Native American cultures that have very serious problems. White culture is not any better, it is just better at covering up it’s insanity and export it’s problems, simply because it has much more power and reach. Watch how the CIA tortures will not be prosecuted any more than US/NATO/Israeli military war crimes and crimes against humanity are prosecuted.

    It is easy to point fingers at other communities and demand they fix themselves. But I don’t see any huge movement in the white middle class in the US actually taking on the elites to fix the insanity. Even when the US elites are destroying entire nations in their relentless drive for profits and power are on the brink to take the world to nuclear war the white middle class are just sitting on their butts watching sports, drinking beer and going about their lives as normal.

    The white middle class is crucial in stopping the insanity, because it is the only thing that can directly influence the US power elite, either directly (voting) or indirectly (abandoning support of the elites). As long as the white middle class is standing behind the elites, which is the case now a little bitching apart, the world will be inexorably pushed towards a new world war.

    Do you think the Russians want to take the role of the next generation Blacks or Native Americans, their culture smashed and looted by the superior American culture? This already happened once after the collapse of the Soviet Union. Do you think the Chinese will let the same thing happen again (remember they were smashed to bits and looted as well).

    That will simply not happen again.

    It is time for the white middle class to take a good look at itself and where it is going.

  35. Narciso

    RE: ELAINE; “Since you are here mainly to argue, you MUST strive to read more carefully instead of throwing abuse at everyone while deliberately refusing to read all of what we say, too. I don’t mind arguments, I resent a refusal to go back in my blog and read carefully as I build my positions. Your accusations are ridiculous because they don’t reflect reality of what we are actually striving to say..\”
    ********
    So i’m supposed to get with the program and regurgitate your opinion as the supposed truth? The simple fact is that the black thug rants are getting ridiculous. You bash blacks while ignoring that their angry has a very real basis in reality.
    *********
    ELAINE: 1. “You have a problem with the use of words. ‘INFLUENCE’ doesn’t mean ‘CONTROL’ at all. Got that? The elites who have money control both parties. But various groups of people have influence within these constrictions. An easy concept to understand. 2. White males IN GENERAL as a group of voters, not buyers of votes, have zero influence on the Democratic Party and gigantic influence on the Republican Party.

    3.Illegal aliens have influence on the Democrats precisely because the rich elites who fund that party use illegal aliens as servants and other humble roles and therefore must pander to the group to keep power over them holding out citizenship as a lure. See?”
    ******
    Number to clear up responses to specific points.

    1. Influence implies control and its silly to argue otherwise. You imply that illegals and blacks have huge influence and that equates to arguing that they control the democratic party’s table scraps.
    2. Lol, rich white males control both political parties and its laughable to presume that ordinary white males have zero influence because they are not “buyers of votes” while pretending that illegals and blacks have huge “influence” while obviously not being “buyers of votes. Ordinary white males don’t control the republican party either because both parties are nothing but divide and conquer nonsense that only does what the rich want. Everyone is too busy fighting each other instead of going after the bankers, politicians, and 1% that controls the state machinery.
    3. Lol, illegals can’t vote Elaine and its laughable to imply that they are keeping the evil rich in power. Ditto blacks being responsible for our imperial bombing campaigns. So pandering to illegals and blacks is responsible for our corporate democratic party throwing us under the bus?
    *******
    ELAINE: “1.This sentence reveals exactly what I pointed out earlier: you jump to odd conclusions based on rage and hate not logic. I never, ever argued that whites are oppressed by illegal aliens, I explain how illegal workers are being USED by the rich to replace citizens who work in many trades, driving down wages.

    2. Blacks are not driving down wages at all, they are being eliminated as useful workers and confined increasingly in ghettoes where their response has been to become unruly, ungovernable and violent. This is BAD for them and for anyone near them which isolates them further.

    3. The fact that the only party that attracts blacks is also destroying them is important to understand if you are worried about the survival of blacks as a population.”
    ******
    Again numbered for clarity;

    1. Again the slander that i’m in a rage and jump to odd logic/conclusions. The reality is that those two paragraphs that you wrote clearly are an emotional rant scapegoating illegals and blacks for destroying the democratic party. i.e. you are engaging in tribalism and identity politics that serve only the rich in their divide and conquer campaigns. You have a chip on your shoulder against blacks and illegals that blind you to your racial rants pettiness.

    2. We are all being declared obsolete and eliminated as useful workers. Pretending blacks are the cause of ghettos and white flight is ridiculous because it ignores that jim crow and housing covenants existed precisely due to the desire of whites to keeps the subhumans away from them. White supremacy and racial discrimination isn’t some historical fraud Elaine. Lots of whites want to go back to the 50’s where they were 80+ percent of the population.

    3. Both political parties are controlled opposition and both are plundering the non elite population. We are not democrats, republicans, conservatives, liberal, etc but peasants that have been declared unruly and no longer useful as workers. The focus on blacks and illegals is just you indulging in tribalism.
    ****
    “ELAINE: Typically of ‘liberals’ they want to allow a flood of illegal labor to come into a country and destroy the citizens who are the workers struggling to survive. This is insanity. If you wish to live in such a fashion, be prepared to fight to the death with people alarmed that they are being eliminated and replaced with foreign, cheap labor that has no power to stop the rich from exploiting them ruthlessly.

    Hint: you can deport any aliens who try to unionize. You can’t do this to citizens.
    *******
    So now i’m a “liberal” that wants a flood of illegal labor to destroy america? As i stated previously you have a huge tendency to complain about my comments having strange logic and false conclusions.

    The rich want immigration because it masks population stagnation and increases profit margins by having vulnerable and disposable labor.

    Now foreign labor is powerless except when those peasants have the audacity to “invade” the US?

    What i’m arguing is that you are completely blind to your tribalism. Everything is colored by your negative personal experiences with ghetto blacks, criminal illegals, tribal jews not accepting the shiksa, etc.

    Blacks are dodging personal responsibility is not in dispute what is is that whites including you are just as guilty of that crime. Your black thug and illegal alien rants are nothing but racial rants that you are completely in denial about. You are scapegoating blacks, illegals, etc for government policies that they have zero control over.

  36. Pontiff Holysh*t

    OK Narciso is not wrong on every point.

    Blacks may indeed be justified in their anger. But there is a smart way and a dumb way to do things. Jews, for example, were oppressed for many centuries. Ahem. They did things the smart way and they are now running things. OK they are doing a piss poor job of running things and that is not smart. But you get the idea.

    Blacks, on the other hand, by and large are reacting in a very dumb way and they do have control over that. The result will be their own destruction. This part is not the fault of white people.

  37. Narciso

    RE: melponeme_k
    …It is interesting how you completely ignore the fact that I am a minority and I write from experience. But you however make no claims based on experience. I would venture to say that you are not a minority. You are one of those “liberal” white people who bamboozled by propaganda…
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    Being a minority doesn’t make your opinion carry any more weight. The elite have been blaming poor people for being peasants since time began and now its just been modernized to having bad culture.

    Amusing, i’m now a white liberal that has a “mighty whitey complex.”
    ***************************

    melponeme_k: “Except that isn’t the case. I’m not a Fox watcher, I was never a Republican and my face is brown. It was brown yesterday, is today and will be until I die. I’m telling you Elaine is right in this argument.
    *************************
    Being brown and agreeing with Elaine’s racial rants doesn’t make them any less ridiculous.
    **********************
    melponeme_k:
    You ignored my point about Asian citizens. Are they not minorities to you? Do they not experience racism? They were used as abused labor to build our whole train network (one that is now being allowed to rot) during the manifest destiny days. Was that not suffering?
    **************
    The entire point is laughable and anyone with half a brain can understand that the education system was never created to generate ‘education stars’ but to provide a docile and moderately trained workforce. Clearly the rich would love to have smart hardworking slaves but since that’s not possible they content them selves with propagandized, docile, and minimally educated peasants.

    Asian immigrants have a different history of discrimination. Genocide for native Americans, slavery for blacks, conquest and land theft for Mexicans and Puerto Ricans.

    Native Americans were robbed of their land and put on worthless land called reservations. Blacks were brought in chains and were ruthlessly enslaved by whites. Mexicans are overwhelmingly of Native American stock and whites had no claim on the south western united states when they decided that manifest destiny gave them the right to rob Mexico of its northern territory (hence the illegal alien term).

    Asians on the other hand are much smaller in number and don’t have any “legitimate” claims on US soil that the previous groups obviously do. Asians mostly Chinese coolies and Japanese peasants have no historical presence in the Americas and were contracted “freely” to work as laborers. Hence, whites hold them up as models to the rest of the unruly minorities that think that they have legitimate historical grievances.

    b.t.w. Don’t be silly the Irish built most of the train network back east, while Chinese coolies worked mostly on the west coast and and the Union pacific route from northern california to kansas city/st louis route.

    Its obvious that all immigrants got exploited including european immigrants so its not like immigrants being used to drive down wages is a new phenomenon.
    **************
    melponeme_k: Let me tell you from my minority experience. I lived…right on the Alabama border. DEEP SOUTH…All the kids in my school were blonde haired and blue eyed…they would make fun of my minority features. Their ignorance of my background was that they always mistook me for a Chinese american. Every day I would have a kid pull their eyes at me and say Ching, Chang, Chong. Luckily I had a good teacher who didn’t allow the hazing to get out of control and my parents told me not to feel bad only to pity my classmates ignorance. I look back and find it pathetic now…
    ***************
    So you were tormented by all the Aryan children and this made you believe hating on black, native american, and hispanic culture is somehow justified by fact?
    ************
    melponeme_k: So based on my experience I can vouch for Asian Americans experiencing very dire racism. But you don’t include them in your “heroic savior” speeches for minorities.

    Is it because they do well in a minimally worker bee schools? They don’t seem to think of our schools as being worthless. In fact they attend Harvard, MIT, Yale, Stanford etc. in high numbers every year. The majority of them coming from public schools.
    ******************
    Your history is quite sad and its shocking how you have been so damaged by your childhood bullying.

    I gave a “heroic savior” speech? must be the white liberal in me with the “mighty whitey complex.”
    ****************
    melponeme_k: Their “sub-culture” is obviously successful. The “sub-culture” of Blacks, Native Americans and a great many Hispanics are not successful.

    In fact failed Native American culture has a name for me. They call Native American kids who do well in school and in greater culture “Apples”. As in red on the outside, white on the inside. This failed “sub-culture” will get nowhere when they label any success their children achieve as white and pandering to racists. And I’ve seen the failure first hand on reservations torn apart by alcoholism and gambling. There is no need for it.
    ******************
    All kids get teased in school and being called an apple, banana, coconut, oreo, hillbilly, etc is a right of passage. I hope you realize that Asian kids call each other bananas as an insult, “yellow on the outside and white in the inside.”
    Clearly you have self-esteem issues and its clear that you are still nursing those old taunts till this very day. I feel for you but schools sucked for most kids and its no reason to blame others for your inability to move past the bullying.
    ***********
    melponeme_k: “I guess blacks, native americans and illegals need to start ordering “white culture” to replace their failed ones. ”

    You aren’t a minority. Thank you for confirming it.
    *************
    I see that sarcasm escapes you.

  38. Luke

    ‘Its obvious that all immigrants got exploited’ Then why did they move here?
    Are you aware of the fact that Whites were slaves and indentured servants and servants were treated far worse than slaves were. Slaves had a resale value. Servants had an expiration date.

  39. Christian W

    @38

    “Why did they move here?” Because they were moving out of even more exploited areas into the exceptional and indispensable holy land of the blessed USD? The land where all wealth must go and of which illegal aliens look for the tiniest share.

  40. melponeme_k

    “Being a minority doesn’t make your opinion carry any more weight.”

    OH really? My living all over the country, attending school all over the country and part of Europe doesn’t carry weight? My attending college without the benefit of being Native American (I have no blood quantum certificate) doesn’t carry weight?

    Nice to know YOUR non minority opinion does.

    “Being brown and agreeing with Elaine’s racial rants doesn’t make them any less ridiculous.”

    Really? My living in the deep south and seeing bad racism as child but growing up to over come it is ridiculous. I see. Well let me repeat what I’ve stated before on this site. I’ve seen America. It is white. Frothing up minority discontent, which you seem to enjoy doing, is a death sentence for minorities. WE WILL ALL DIE IN A RACE WAR! The numbers are against us. So think of some other way than encouraging fighting.

    “So you were tormented by all the Aryan children and this made you believe hating on black, native american, and hispanic culture is somehow justified by fact?”

    Interesting that you used a racist slur. I try to avoid racism against everyone due to my experiences. They were silly, ignorant children copying the views of their parents. My parents were right to encourage me to take pity on them rather than sling back insults. I had a good teacher who didn’t let the hazing get out of hand. Did she step in all the time? No. Kids need to learn how to cope by themselves. I learned how. Believe me, children are tough little SOBs. This is something we all forgot.

    “Clearly you have self-esteem issues and its clear that you are still nursing those old taunts till this very day. I feel for you but schools sucked for most kids and its no reason to blame others for your inability to move past the bullying.”

    LOL. Now my experience as a minority is self esteem issues. You are going to have to try harder. I NEVER get angry. So get ready to keep going round this mulberry bush.

    “Asians on the other hand are much smaller in number and don’t have any “legitimate” claims on US soil that the previous groups obviously do.”

    The fact that you don’t see the racism in this statement says everything about you. Because you can’t white knight Asians, they don’t count.

  41. emsnews

    Yes, isn’t that obvious?

    This is how debates work: someone works hard at refuting EVERYTHING and ends up falling into a hole they dug for themselves.

    And yes, Indians (both Asian ones and American ones) practice racism, blacks certainly do this, whites obviously do this, tribalism is rampant all over the planet from Europe to Asia to Africa to the New World, wherever.

    It is a common human response, after all. Demanding European whites NOT do this while all others indulge in this is crazy. Either tribalism is evil or it is real.

    I happen to think tribalism is not good for a country. I believe in CITIZENS who have rights and duties.

    This is what is being wiped out by liberals and I am furious about this.

  42. Christian W

    Liberals wiping out liberalism… that doesn’t really add up does it. Let’s face it, the US turned fascist decades ago. I remember when the right turned “liberal” into a dirty word during the Reagan years and the US left was dragged far into the right shifting the center of US politics. Now, what is the current “left” in the US is the far right (or authoritarian right if you will).

    You cannot have a citizen state run by a tiny elite. So, the question is why does the US middle class not act?

    Once a war has started it is too late to stop it; you have to prevent the war from happening in the first place. The same logic applies to this situation. If the middle class does not act soon it will be too late. Time is very much ticking now.

  43. emsnews

    The liberal movement is in SELF DESTRUCT and blaming the rightwing for this sad state of affairs is stupid.

    The right wing is not delusional about the onset of global cooling, for example. The right wing didn’t cause the black community to self destruct in an orgy of riots, looting, drug using, vandalism, and murdering each other.

    Blaming others for one’s own problems never solves anything. The present form of ‘liberalism’ is nasty.

    The ‘liberals’ want to freeze us to death! This is HORRIBLE. And turns of even real liberals like myself. This is just one example.

  44. Christian W

    Obviously the liberal movement already self destructed. The “liberals” failed to stand up to push to the right and went along more or less willingly until “mission creep” of sorts made them end up where they are today, firmly on fascist ground. In other words, there is no real liberal movement anymore – at least none that is allowed to challenge the elites directly. So what you are railing against are not “liberals” at all. What you call liberals are no more liberal than the Democrats of the East German Republic were democratic.

  45. Reblogged this on healthychoicemusic and commented:
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