▶ BREAKING: Edgewater Fire OUT OF CONTROL, Massive Evacuation In New Jersey – YouTube: over and over again, I see in the news these huge 200-2000 apartment building complexes built out of WOOD burning in huge infernos that even the best fire departments can’t stop at all until these cheap built death traps burn to the ground. Happened yet again in New Jersey near where my daughter and grandchild live and shop.
Street view of burned down condo complex showing the ground floor is an open space garage that brought in lots of oxygen to the fires thanks to huge windows and the nature of the flimsy ‘suburban house of sticks’ construction of the main structure with plastic siding that melts in fires.
When Edgewater firefighters arrived on scene, sprinklers were activated and spraying water throughout the massive luxury complex, Edgewater Fire Chief Tom Jacobson said.
He attributed the rapid pace of the inferno, which was first spotted on the first floor, to “lightweight” wood construction with a truss-style of roof.
“If it was made out of concrete and cinder block, we wouldn’t have this sort of problem,” he said.
Absolutely they would not burn if built properly. But that costs money! To save money, developers make building codes written by Victorians much weaker. The building that exploded rapidly into an out of control fire in the middle of the day within minutes of spotting the smoke is a classic death trap.
The Victorians had a lot of experience with this such as the great Chicago fire, for example. In NYC and the New Jersey cities across the Hudson had strict building codes requiring brick walls between all multi-story connected buildings such as the famous brownstones. I rebuilt brownstones and owned one of these and family still own brownstone apartments.
They are quite fire proof if you don’t destroy the mechanicals totally. Even if a fire happens, it rarely spreads far. But these laws were changed! Developers falsely claimed that mere sheetrock, if doubled, would be the same as a six inch+ thick brick wall! It isn’t. Not even slightly.
Apartment Complex Fire Accidentally Caused by Workers – ABC News: many of these fires happen due to workers many of whom are illegal aliens and poor quality, too. So we have them lighting housing on fire as they toil. This is COMMON not rare.
“A plumbing repair ignited a fire in the wall which then spread through the building,” he said. “It was accidental, there was nothing suspicious about it, and we have complete verification and there’s no doubt about it. It was just a tragic accident.”
Good lord. I have done plumbing and worked with professional plumbers and guess what? We know that using a blowtorch next to wood causes smoldering fires in walls which is why we do various things to prevent this from happening. Hand off these tools to someone who barely speaks English and you get stupid things happening.
In a statement released Thursday afternoon, AvalonBay Communities, which owned the complex, said it had been built “in accordance with the fire and safety codes applicable at the time.”
“The purpose of those codes is not to prevent the building from burning down, but rather to ensure that there is sufficient time and opportunity for all occupants to exit safely in the event of a fire,” the company wrote. “We are grateful that everyone at Avalon at Edgewater was able to leave the building and get to safety without serious injury.”
They are SO LUCKY. If this bad plumbing job on a fire trap wood mega-structure smoldered much of the night before igniting, 10-100 people would have burned to death. Since few were home, they had time to either flee with few to no belongings or came home from work to see that they were now hopelessly homeless.
Just how common these fires are is easy to see, I watch the news and it took me minutes to Google up some recent near-identical fires, nearly all of these listed below were caused by workers doing something really stupid: Just one month ago, this fire ate up a giant wooden condo unit complex in Lost Angeles:
A mere three months ago, a very similar wooden multi-apartment complex caught fire very badly in a next door neighborhood: ▶ Cliffside Park, NJ Multi Alarm 11/18/14 – YouTube
Last March in Houston, a nearly identical wooden mass condo housing construction became a massive fire:
Also, last March in San Francisco, a place that burns during earthquakes:
One year ago, again, a fire: ▶ Huge apartment fire in New Westminster, BC – w/building collapse – YouTube
July, 2013, in Canada, a similar wooden apartment complex burns down the exact same out of control way, very fast, barely time to flee:
Watch all the videos: it is obvious fire fighters cannot put these fires out. Once they start, the fire rages uncontrolled. The firemen were called within a few minutes of smoke being detected in New Jersey and all they could do was helplessly pour water on the fire and see the water evaporate before it touched any flames. All the water dumped during the worst part of the fire had zero effect.
Because massive mega-wooden structures burn immensely hotly and are nearly impossible to stop once they start, they should be OUTLAWED and torn down. They are death traps. Period. The one that burned so hot in New Jersey had sprinklers which were USELESS. Even if all of the sprinklers worked, they didn’t quench any flames at all. So that can’t be used as an excuse to allow these stupid death traps to be built. No way in hell. Hot hell.
And no Victorian government would allow these sorts of stupid buildings to be erected in NYC or NJ, after 1895. All the wood multistory attached houses predate that time period.
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