Increasingly UNlikely German Plane Pilot Was Muslim Convert Terrorist

 

 

Correction: I had more information and the following story isn’t certain anymore.  What IS certain is that the pilot plotted his mass murder before hand.  Reasons for this are still a question.

 

The tangled mess about the pilot who did a mass murder/suicide attack appears to be political and religious in nature and I was correct to compare him to the 9/11 suicide attackers:  GERMAN NEWS REPORT: Co-Pilot of Germanwings Airbus Was MUSLIM CONVERT …’Hero of Islamic State’? | The Gateway Pundit

 

According to Michael Mannheimer, a writer for German PI-News, Germany now has its own 9/11, thanks to the convert to Islam, Andreas Lubitz.

Translation from German:

 

All evidence indicates that the copilot of Airbus machine in his six-months break during his training as a pilot in Germanwings, converted to Islam and subsequently either by the order of “radical”, ie. devout Muslims , or received the order from the book of terror, the Quran, on his own accord decided to carry out this mass murder. As a radical mosque in Bremen is in the center of the investigation, in which the convert was staying often, it can be assumed that he – as Mohammed Atta, in the attack against New York – received his instructions directly from the immediate vicinity of the mosque.

 

Converts are the most important weapon of Islam. Because their resume do not suggests that they often are particularly violent Muslims. Thus Germany now has its own 9/11, but in a reduced form. And so it is clear that Islam is a terrorist organization that are in accordance with §129a of the Criminal Code to prohibit it and to investigate its followers. But nothing will happen. One can bet that the apologists (media, politics, “Islamic Scholars”) will agree to assign this an act of a “mentally unstable” man, and you can bet that now, once again the mantra of how supposedly peaceful Islam is will continue. And worse still, the attacks by the left against those who have always warned against Islam, will be angrier and merciless.

Michael Mannheimer, 26.3.2015

 

It now turns out there was no suicide note in the apartment of the young man (his name, by the way, is Polish which adds another level to the ‘what the hell is going on here’ part of the story) and the police did find information there about his Muslim affiliation with a Bremen mosque that has a preacher that talks about the need for all out warfare with Western Civilization. Last fall, Germany: Police close mosque for spreading Islamic State ideology.

 

BERLIN, Dec 5 (KUNA) — German authorities have closed a mosque in the northern city of Bremen, after it was accused of encouraging youth to join the extremist Islamic State group (known as ISIL), which is carrying out violent killings across Syria and Iraq.

In unprecedented circumstances, more than 100 German police personnel carried out a search of Masjidu-l-Furqan and its accompanying cultural office, which had both been under police radar since 2007.

The decision comes amid the fight against ISIL ideology, Bremen Interior Secretary Ulrich Maurer said, accusing the mosque’s management of promoting ISIL values and encouraging young Muslims in the city to travel to Syria and Iraq, and join the ranks of the group, along with Al-Nusra Front – another extremist group in Syria.

The centre have so far succeeded in inspiring a total eight men, seven women and 11 juveniles to travel to Syria and join ISIL, according to the official.

 

Religious warfare will rise thanks to NATO supporting this warfare which is why all the decisions made by the US and Europe over the last 70 years has led inevitably towards all-out religious warfare because all the wrong lessons were learned after WWII.  Ethnic/religious cleansing was ENDORSED by the US and EU leaders thinking that ‘divide and conquer’ would be a piece of cake if people hate each other.  So they would preach ‘love each other/ethnic diversity is great’ while practicing ethnic warfare and race supremacy, all at the same time.  So confused populations have learned to hate each other and view each other as ‘someone to cheat/steal from/rape’ and this is causing a collapse in societies across the board with tribalism triumphant.

 

We will see more of this, not less.  And our rulers are pouring gasoline on these fires.

 

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32 responses to “Increasingly UNlikely German Plane Pilot Was Muslim Convert Terrorist

  1. e sutton

    We will see more of this, not less. And our rulers are pouring gasoline on these fires.

    Granted. It’s an inbred, tribal culture, at war with one another. What else would you expect the elite to do but exploit it?

  2. Seraphim

    @Ethnic/religious cleansing was ENDORSED by the US and EU leaders…

    The end of Communism threatened to inaugurate an era of peace and good will among peoples. That danger had to be obviated by any means. And so the idea of the “Clash of civilizations” was quickly put forward. The phrase itself was first used by Bernard Lewis in an article in the September 1990 issue of The Atlantic Monthly titled “The Roots of Muslim Rage”, suggesting how to further inflame this rage (which was directed so far against the Evil Empire of Russia, ostensibly because of the invasion of Afghanistan and slightly remained without object after the retreat of the Soviet troops from Afghanistan).
    The program was further developed by political scientist Samuel P. Huntington in a 1992 lecture at the American Enterprise Institute, then in a 1993 Foreign Affairs article titled “The Clash of Civilizations?”, in response to his former student Francis Fukuyama’s 1992 book, The End of History and the Last Man. Huntington later expanded his thesis in a 1996 book The Clash of Civilizations and the Remaking of World Order. The title is suggestive: the clash is necessary for the remaking of the World Order.

    In Huntigton’s words: “The survival of the West depends on Americans reaffirming their Western identity and Westerners accepting their civilization as unique. The New Era in World Politics universal and uniting to renew and preserve it against challenges from non-Western societies. Avoidance of a global war of civilizations depends on world leaders accepting and cooperating to maintain the multicivilizational character of global politics.”

    It very much sounds like the “Statement of Principles” of PNAC.

  3. hblinken

    Germanwings A320 Crash – Hollande Says FDR Memory Card “Missing”

    nothing looks as it seems, this Islamist nonsense is a red herring. probably a “Ali” was supposed to be the co-pilot, but he somehow failed to be on the plane. but without the missing FDR all what we have heard is just here-say.

  4. vengeur

    I am not finding this link to the Muslim religion on the part of Andreas L. in any other media , German or American. Somehow this entire disaster does not add up, as if something is missing. Like the dog that didn’t bark.

  5. Floridasandy

    The muslims have been enraged for a very long time, hence the crusades.

    I am not really buying the radical muslim connection here, and think it is much more likely another medication issue with an unstable individual, drug usage, failing vision, and a bad temper.

    No manifesto salute to radical islam,, no suicide note, no training camp, and unless he shouted ala akbar at the end , then i believe.🙂

  6. Floridasandy

    Hiow would you like to be part of a religion where everytime there is unspeakable brutality, ugliness, or mayhem they want to take credit for it?

  7. Sunger

    Sounds like the work of evil climate scientists who want to turn us into commmies and get some extra grant money they can spend in heated casinos in Las Vegas.

  8. Jim R

    Sunger, you forgot the /sarc tag …

    But, yeah, this is perhaps the biggest load of horse shit I have read on EMS news. . .

    Some maniac loser kills a bunch of people, and he must be somehow in cahoots with those little brown people, you know, the Moooooslums! Just like Hussein O’bama, yeah, that’s right. The Irish Communist Atheist Muslim Indonesian dictator from Kenya (and CIA agent).

  9. vengeur

    Well, TPTB have never lied or deceived us before, so it they tell us it was just a jilted crazy guy that did this, we have to take their word on it. And as far as those “little brown Mooslims”, one would truly have to have an overactive imagination to imagine that any of them are implicated in yet another terrorist mass murder, you know, the kind that go on most every day in Iraq and Afghanistan .

  10. vengeur

    Oh, I forgot the sarc tag…

  11. Jim R

    Well, yeah, that seals it then. It’s like Skull and Bones, only it’s a worldwide club of suicidal mass murderers. They’d hold more meetings, but their members keep dropping out for some reason.. /sarc

  12. JimmyJ

    It’s a lot easier for authoritarian types who tolerate no weakness or human frailty to assign a political motive than accept a psychiatric reason. Sometimes motives simply aren’t rational. Besides, easier to call Lubitz a terrorist than admit that pilots suffer psychiatric disturbances in silence due to systemic testosterone overdosing.

  13. LOU

    Lubitz is a jewish name. ssshhhhhh.

  14. Shawntoh

    To “Floridasandy”–

    How would you like to be a member of a species that knows, most likely, and, unlike other life forms, that it’s going to die, and yet, even with such knowledge, this species also realizes that nothing can be done about stopping that inevitable state we call “death”?

    Yet despite this gift (or curse) this species still struts around imagining that by ignoring death that it’s somehow defying death with its vainglorious displays –and further ignoring and defying inevitable death as this species goes on with all its pathetic pronouncements prattling on about this and that topic. See most humans in action in this regard and note that!

    Further, I observe, it’s a species that continues to destroy the overall ecosystem that supports all life on earth and yet this species refuses to face up to the horror it’s creating for any of its future offspring who won’t have any resources left to deal with this mess.

    You can conclude whatever you want but I conclude this–

    After three generations after the original founders have died, EVERY religion ever created becomes distorted until the original founders wouldn’t even recognize their original teaching. I really feel bad for all of the founders, what a drag!

    This “Islam” bashing by various candidates for a fool’s finishing school on this blog forum is amusing at best with the various displays of ignorance and disturbing at best. But it’s not just this mere topic–

    I’m afraid to conclude that this all possibly shows that we humans will certainly become extinct for sure at this rate due to not doing our research and homework about various subjects of importance and taking the appropriate action.

    Ha! So dig that, my fellow pretentious primates!

    Remember this –the only thing that hasn’t become extinct is a bunch of bacteria –everything else has up to this point. Why will we be the exception here?

    By the end of this century, if not before, we, as a species, as humans, probably will be gone forever –along with the ecosystems to support life.

    Sad, but that’s show biz, ain’t it?😉

  15. Jim R

    Shawntoh, the biosphere was always at least 90% microbes (by weight). By numbers, the ratio cannot even be estimated.

    When you say “support life”, you are making assumptions about “life”.

    Well, I see you did mention bacteria, sort of in passing, but I expect roaches and rats to do pretty well too. If raccoons make it, you have the makings of another civilization right there.

  16. Seraphim

    @I’m afraid to conclude that this all possibly shows that we humans will certainly become extinct

    We certainly will become extinct in the next (2-3?) decades. Naturally.

  17. Floridasandy

    Shawntoh, you certainly seem to lump all religions together there. I don’t see christians trying to “take credit” for atrocities, nor do i see christians posting pictures on the internet of their most recent beheading, or claim for their most recent schoolgirl kidnapping.

    That said, i realize there are many muslims on the planet and many of them want nothing to do with brutality, but it really is their job to step up to th plate and handle those who would pollute their religion IN THE NAME of their religion.

    Of course, we will eventually be extinct but we don’t have to speed it up.

    I will say that i have noticed a loss in the insect population, especially flies, bees, and lovebugs– at least down here.

  18. Back on topic, i think the co pilot being determined unfit to fly, his detached retina problem, his anger management problem, his depression and drug use were the major players in this particular act of evil.

    Flying sure was a lot simpler before the world went crazy.

  19. Irv

    Of course there could be a purely efficient
    corporate reason to blame the dead pilots.
    These fly by wire plastic airbuses are unloved by many pilots and Germany is
    a partner in Airbus… can’t have a clould over this major industry. Sales would shift to Boeing.

  20. Christian W

    @Sandy

    I don’t see christians trying to “take credit” for atrocities, nor do i see christians posting pictures on the internet of their most recent beheading, or claim for their most recent schoolgirl kidnapping.

    Those “Muslims” are not really Muslims though. They are Wahhabi Sunni death squads in the pay and service of the US Empire. Those atrocities are wonderfully exposed first page news by the US Jewish and international media for a reason.

    In contrast videos and pictures of US military atrocities are forbidden to ever appear in the same US and International media. Even Abu Grahib was heavily censored. You have clearly grasped the idea why the “Muslim” atrocities are front page news; it’s because you are supposed to think that “Muslims” are evil, cruel and overall ghastly, consequently the US and Israel are automatically the good guys. Job done.

    The US has been in bed with these Sunni Wahabbists ever since Franklin Delano Roosevelt made a deal with King Ibn Saud at the end of WWII and declared “the defense of Saudi Arabia [ie the House of Saud ie Sunni Wahabbism] is vital to the defense of the United States”.

    US warfare in the Middle East is even today the reason the US has let lose these Sunni “Muslim” death squads.

    If you want to stop those “evil Muslims” start with your own government, Sandy.

  21. lyrac

    This is a slanderous falsehood. When even the neocon Weekly Standard refutes it, you know it is an outrageous lie. I am surprised to find you, Elaine, falling for the bullshit. http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/germanwings-co-pilot-s-non-existent-muslim-conversion_901589.html

  22. emsnews

    Yes, it is probably a mistake. I did use various words saying this is not certain in the article.

    The fact is, a pilot, due to the anti-hijacking doors, was able to use a plane to commit mass murder quite deliberately.

    The US has a rule that pilots have to be in the cockpit together at all times, at least 2.

    This still won’t stop suicidal pilots who can disable their partner all too easily. Why pilots are doing this is the question. We have had a number of cases of this happening and it is frightful for passengers to need to worry about suicidal pilots.

  23. emsnews

    I fixed the story now. Thanks, everyone, for information and corrections.

  24. Seraphim

    @ Why pilots are doing this is the question.

    Is the epidemic of mass-murder/suicides which swept the USA crossing the oceans?
    Wikipedia gives a list of School shootings. Nearly 150 only since year 2000! Columbine, anyone?
    But it happened in Germany too. Erfurt, 2002. Winnenden and Wendlingen, 2009.

  25. Floridasandy

    Christian, i respect your historical perspective, but the US has always been blamed by the media for everything wrong in the world. I get that this is basically a muslim sect battle, but certainly america, a mostly christian nation, needs to pay attention to those who call for death to christians and death to america, not ven coting death to israel, where the women have more freedom than any part of the mideast. (at least to my knowledge-that could be wrong).
    again, i did not say that MOST muslims are evil but certainly america has a right to be concerned about those who chant death to america -the same as france has a right to be concerned over the radicals killing cartoonists there, and those beheading policemen in britain. This is a very virulent strain of evil involved, kind of like a virus spreading and mutating.

    That’s what i like about you supkis, aleays willing to report the truth as you see it and making corrections when necessary.

  26. Petruchio

    “We will see more of this, not less. And our rulers are pouring gasoline on these fires.” Yes, fomenting hate, wars and bloodshed is what the so-called elites do. It’s good for profits for one thing. Keeps the ‘elites’ in power for another. It should also be pointed out that these elites know they are small in numbers, so they go to great lengths to conceal their identities and actual agendas. The elites don’t come right out and say, “We want to promote wars in (for example) the Middle East to keep the oil AND oil profits flowing. No, they make up a story about the threat of ‘terrorists’ and call for a War on Terror.

  27. Pontiff Holysh*t

    @ # 20:

    Forget about it man. Its the churches. Religion is the most effective form of mass mind control ever.

    Without these evil institutions spewing their lies, hate and propaganda, the elites could never maintain enough mass support to sustain their apparently never-ending wars of aggression against oil producing Muslim lands.

    With these folks, the Bible (as interpreted by their pontiffs) trumps the Constitution. Its a massive bummer.

  28. emsnews

    The God of the Desert is an odd duck.

    Hates females.

    One of the funniest things that ever happened was when the barbarians in Europe were converted to this weird god, they embraced the Virgin Mary and She was the very favorite goddess. HAHAHA.

    Still amazes me. The Protestants hated Her. Sad, isn’t it? Resumed the male ‘God Who Hates Women And Wants To Destroy The World AGAIN In A Fit Of Pique’. Due mainly to things women do that He hates…like eating an apple a day to keep the mad God away.

  29. Seraphim

    Actually the God was of the Garden and she went away! From the cool, pleasant, fragrant garden, into the cold desert (or was it into the Global Warming?) naked and thorns and thistles for food.

  30. Floridasandy

    The problem isn’t god at all.

  31. Seraphim

    @30

    You can say that the problem was the light mindedness of the primal couple. God told Adam to eat from all trees in the garden. It certainly included the tree of life (which clearly was the grapevine). He warned him not to eat from the apple tree, not because He hated Eve (who was not even made yet), but because wild apples are sour and may cause diarrhea. And it is what happened (the Bible use an euphemism, “they saw they were naked”) and they started to foul the beautiful fragrant garden. They tried to hide the result covering it with fig leaves, but the stench gave them away. And that in order to preserve the fragrance He send them to do their business in the desert. But instead of admitting their fault and promise to not do it again, they started to spit at each other and then blame the serpent and then god himself for their own stupidity. Seeing that God closed the gates of the garden and said: now if you prefer to eat bitter herbs instead of the delicious fruits (and the most delicious of all, the juice of the vine!) so be it. If he hated someone it was probably Himself for making so stupid creatures.

  32. Christian W

    Christian, i respect your historical perspective, but the US has always been blamed by the media for everything wrong in the world.

    No, the US media actively hides and distorts the facts about US actions in the world. This meme that the ‘liberal media’ is out to blacken the image of America is a meme that came out about 10 years ago as part of the shutting down of critical thinking and genuine debate about US policies.

    Just now the NYT (ie US ‘liberal media’) published articles saying that the US should arm the ISIS throat cutters and terrorists, and bomb, bomb, bomb Iran.


    I get that this is basically a muslim sect battle, but certainly america, a mostly christian nation, needs to pay attention to those who call for death to christians and death to america, not ven coting death to israel, where the women have more freedom than any part of the mideast. (at least to my knowledge-that could be wrong).
    again, i did not say that MOST muslims are evil but certainly america has a right to be concerned about those who chant death to america -the same as france has a right to be concerned over the radicals killing cartoonists there, and those beheading policemen in britain.

    The truth is this is NOT a muslim sect battle primarily. It is US power politics and Israel has always been a part of that. Israel of course has it’s own agenda.

    As for women in Israel having more rights than Muslim women, why does Israel and the US support Saudi Arabian Wahhabism and ISIS? Why did the US destroy secular Iraq and secular Iran (1953) where Muslim women had far more freedom than they do under Wahhabism? Why did the US support the Muslim fanatics in Afghanistan (1979) rather than the much more secular regime supported by the Soviets? Why did the US arm and train Wahhabist death squads to destroy Syria? Why did the US use Al Qaeda to destroy Libya, again women had far more rights under Ghaddafi than they do under extremist rule.

    In Syria there are many, many SUNNI’s fighting on Assad’s side. The reason for this is simply that they are sane people that understand that Wahhabism is not a sane religion. The vast majority of Muslims in the world are against Wahhabism.

    Keep in mind that for 2,000 years in Iraq the Sunnis and Shias lived peacefully side by side and intermarried, they did NOT define themselves in terms of which sect they belong to. Then the US invaded and the rest is history. The Sunni and Shia war has been deliberately created by Saudi Arabia, the US and Israel.

    So, please tell why does the US and Israel support Wahhabism, that is seen as evil and non-Muslim by the wast majority of Muslims and that you clearly object to? The “Muslims” that killed Charlie Hebdo weren’t really “Muslims” – they were death squad “takfiris” but it is part of the agenda to pretend they are “Muslims”.

    Also, Israeli women that live under Jewish ultra orthodox rules have very little freedom since just like Wahhabism the ultra orthodox Jews are medieval, or older, in outlook on life and women.

    This is a very virulent strain of evil involved, kind of like a virus spreading and mutating

    Yes, it is the same virulent strain of evil that popped up in 1930’s Germany that has now morphed into modern strains. There is a reason Israel and the US support Nazis and ultra nationalists in Ukraine and Wahhabis in Saudi Arabia and elsewhere. As Elaine points out Hitler got his supremacist ideas from Zionism.

    Zionism, Nazism, US exceptionalism (ie US is above the law and has the right to do anything it wants, while everybody else is subjugated to US rule), Wahhabism are all morally and spiritually cut from the same cloth. All of these philosophies claim that they are at the top and everybody else are below. They have all the rights, everybody else are subordinate.

    These philosophies and religious systems are the exact opposite to egalitarian and equal systems.

    This is the evil at work here. Unfortunately at the moment the US is a major part of this evil.

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