Two German And Polish Ladies Interviewed About Mass Muslim Sex Attacks, They Can’t Even Condemn This

As Europe slides into economic chaos caused by millions of aliens invading as well as terrorism shutting down cities and borders closing, in Germany where training minds to not think has been highly successful, the liberal leftists are floundering about trying to connect angry Muslim males with women’s rights and falling flat on their faces:  German Feminists Debate Cologne Attacks – SPIEGEL ONLINE.  This ‘debate’ is crazy and shows how vulnerable the Germans are today, nearly as bad off as the Swedes who have chosen ‘mass suicide’ as a social goal.

 

A woman from the former East Germany who is debating about these many sex attacks is sparring with a former West German woman.  The East German woman, Wizorek, is really a Polish lady who came to Germany after WWII.  Schwarzer probably came from probably the Schwarzwald region where I once lived, in Germany.

SPIEGEL: Is it not a huge setback for the women’s movement when hundreds of thousands of young men from male-dominated societies come to Germany in a single year?

 

Schwarzer: I can’t just go up to people standing in the snow at the German-Austrian border and ask them: “Are you an Islamist?” When people flee to us from war zones, we first have to help. But we also have to be quick to look very closely at who it is that is coming.

 

Wizorek: Patriarchy also exists here in Germany. The right to asylum cannot be restricted just because people come to Germany from countries that represent more sexist attitudes.

 

SPIEGEL: How should politicians respond to the events in Cologne? Do we need rules that allow for the faster deportation of migrants, as the conservatives are now demanding?

 

Wizorek: This is not the debate that we need to be having. Perpetrators clearly need to be punished, but the problem of sexualized violence has already existed here for some time and can’t simply be “deported.” Doing so doesn’t solve the fundamental problem. Instead, Germany needs to tighten its laws governing sexual offences. We need to establish more crisis centers for the victims of violence. There are too few of them and people who work there are often poorly paid or are volunteers.

 

Sad, how the women talk about ‘patriarchy’ when the flood of aliens are from the highest level of ‘patriarchal’ cultures and seem determined to impose this upon Europe.  And the Polish woman is claiming that the German males were being obnoxious and violent when this isn’t the case very much.  I know when I lived in Germany many years ago, 90% of the sex attacks on me were from Turks, not Germans.  Clueless, both women go on to La La Land thinking ‘education’ will stop Muslim males from being aggressive towards women:

 

SPIEGEL: Could the events in Cologne have been prevented with tighter rape laws? The primary issue in the debate over those laws is the firmness with which a woman must say that she does not want to have sex. When it comes to Cologne, you really can’t accuse the women of not having shown that clearly enough.

 

Schwarzer: Even stricter rape laws wouldn’t have done anything to stop the crimes in Cologne. Groping, a trivializing word, isn’t even a prosecutable offense yet.

 

Wizorek: This is why I am calling for sexual harassment to be made a criminal offence. But there is also the fundamental problem that it is always assumed that women want all of that. Our world is strongly shaped by hypersexualized images of female bodies that are presented as being available. At the same time, we still haven’t found language with which we can speak about intimacy. That also contributes to a climate in which assault gets normalized.

 

SPIEGEL: Ms. Schwarzer, what consequences will Cologne have?

 

Schwarzer: We need to finally be proactive in enlightening people from Islamic cultural groups. And this applies to immigrants already here as well as to current refugees. The German constitution stands above the Sharia. Schools need to offer classes on gender equality. You also have to offer an alternative to young men with a penchant for violence.

 

So, these ladies are going to teach angry young men who hate their civilization to be much nicer?  HAHAHA.  I wonder if they will go into the biker world in Germany which is like the US biker world and preach women’s rights there?  Someone should make a movie about this, a reality TV show thing, perhaps.  When I lived in Germany, women were not equal at all nor were we in the US, either, I was still involve in lawsuits about discrimination in school back in 1968 and hadn’t won these yet.  The women’s rights thing is relatively new, not even four generations in the US or three in Europe.

 

Here is the Polish lady saying something very true but I bet she doesn’t know who did the raping: Wizorek: ‘Sexualized violence existed before the refugees — it has not been imported.’  True and when was this?

 

The German military raped its way across Eastern Europe and the Soviet army did the same back into Germany. This was a crime both direction, of course. But the winners of war are not punished for this because they won, of course. ‘Loot, rape and burn’ isn’t a new or unusual saying, it is how humans have operated for the last 20,000 years.

 

Here is some of the chaos surrounding the mess from the Middle East which is now parked deep inside Germany:  Sorrow, anger at Berlin′s LaGeSo refugee center after Syrian′s apparent death | Germany | DW.COM | 27.01.2016:

 

But there is still some confusion about the authenticity of the reported death, as Berlin’s state government have yet to confirm the death or the identity of the refugee – or even which hospital he was allegedly being taken to. “We have had 30 or 40 people phoning all the emergency stations and hospitals since 7 a.m.,” Sascha Langenbach, spokeswoman for the State Ministry for Health and Social Affairs, told the AFP news agency. Berlin police also said on Wednesday that they had no information about the man’s possible death.

 

Naziism is rising bit by bit and will grow greatly, of course:  Nationalists Disrupt Commemoration of Stalin Victims, Bring Photos of Nazis which is enraging Russia.  Russian Defense Ministry Plans Archive Unit to Counter ‘WWII Lies’ | News | The Moscow Times

 

In this climate of popular militarism, it has become taboo in Russia to question the conduct of Red Army soldiers during the Soviet campaign through Eastern Europe, which resulted in the capture of Berlin in 1945.

 

Russian history textbooks are being standardized to present a “canonical” version of the Soviet war with Nazi Germany, free from unpatriotic notions that Soviet soldiers were complicit in acts of rape and other wartime atrocities.

 

In one example of this, leading British historian Antony Beevor learned in August that his books about the eastern front in World War II would be removed from all schools and universities in the Russian city of Yekaterinburg for “promoting stereotypes formed during the Third Reich” that Red Army soldiers engaged in mass rapes of German women in the later stages of the war.

 

I went to Google and tried several variations about Germans raping and looting Russia and got nothing but what would show up every time was about Russian armies raping German women.  Now comes this news story from Russia:  Russia’s Lavrov Urges Germany to Deal With Migrant Rape Allegations.  Rape, loot and burn: all armies do this including the one invading Europe after Merkel invited them all in.  This is going to cause chaos for a long, long, LONG time and won’t end happily for many people in one way or another.

 

The entire issue of women’s rights is crashing into the Muslim wall and liberals struggle to keep the two opposites running supposedly on the same track which is impossible.  Meanwhile, we are all supposedly roasting to death which means someone has to give up a lot of something if true and why us?  Indeed, just like the population issue.  Japan, Russia, all of Europe’s natives, many people have stopped having many children but not the Muslim countries, not at all.  We are supposed to be worried about too many humans but this is very easily fixed: war and pestilence.  A medieval ‘solution’ but according to the rulers of Saudi Arabia, it is the only solutions.  There are no others.

 

Who do we support?  Who do we protect?  Who do we join?  The answer is sadly, rather obvious unless one believes that war and pestilence is fine and enslavement of others is great.  I doubt many feminists would think this is a great idea yet…they are in confusion now and freaking out.  Hope they can figure out a way out of this mental trap.

 


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27 responses to “Two German And Polish Ladies Interviewed About Mass Muslim Sex Attacks, They Can’t Even Condemn This

  1. Christian W

    As Europe slides into economic chaos caused by millions of aliens invading as well as terrorism shutting down cities and borders closing

    Actually I think the economic problems for Europe is more the

    *stupid self defeating economic sanctions against Iran and Russia , on orders from Washington, and the severe punishment against banks and firms not complying by the US
    * insane wars in the ME
    * a rotten, festering mess inherited from the 2008 crash
    * and China reforming their domestic markets and purging rotten banks
    etc

    are bigger factors than terrorism and the invasions of refugees, which in turn are consequences of the above US policies.

    The flood of refugees are just more of the sh*tcake Europe has to eat for being vassal states to the US. Not that stupid EU leaders have not been too eager to help tho.

    Merkel, btw, is reportedly not doing well. She is apparently deeply depressed and under heavy medication. I’ve just seen this in passing though so not sure how accurate it is.

  2. Ken

    How times have changed.

    Elaine often recounts the story of how she was invited into Germany many years ago. When the Germans decided she was behaving badly (for a guest) they kicked her out.

    Now, Muslims have been invited into Germany, and are behaving badly, but the government no longer has the nerve to kick them out.

  3. Nani

    Christian: “The flood of refugees are just more of the sh*tcake Europe has to eat for being vassal states to the US. Not that stupid EU leaders have not been too eager to help though.”

    Indeed, and this is very much a part of the problem. Europe desperately needs leaders who defends Europe’s interests, not anyone else’s.

  4. Jim R

    I sometimes wonder if this isn’t part of a grand plan by the social engineers of the NWO.

    They thawed out the Nazis in the Ukraine, and set them on the old, weak, corrupt kleptocrats left over from Soviet times. With a little support and encouragement, we now have the “pro-European” “government” in Kiev, complete with torchlight parades and flags with Nazi symbols.

    So, maybe they’re hoping to revive the Nazis in western Europe, and turn them against Russia as well.

    It makes no economic sense at all but might make political sense. It keeps Europe weak and divided, and the MENA region in chaos, and oil cheap and the USA relatively stable…

  5. Lee

    I sometimes wonder if this isn’t part of a grand plan by the social engineers of the NWO. —Duh. What happens by accident?

    EMS—long ago here, I quote, ‘Multi cultural societies are the strongest societies.’ Her words return to haunt her.

    ΩΩΩ

    ELAINE: They ARE but only if there is a unified school system plus WORK. What is missing now? Work is being reduced to bare bones for the working classes and this is setting off tensions between ethnic groups.

    This is the problem with the million Muslim males, they are not school age, the number of women and children is vanishingly small in this wave, and they have few useful skills since many don’t believe that working with their hands like say, the Hispanic males, they want…a life of ease, for the most part.

  6. JimmyJ

    “‘Loot, rape and burn’ isn’t a new or unusual saying, it is how humans have operated for the last 20,000 years.”

    You forgot ‘pillage’.

    I would rather suggest for 5 million years, say since hominids split from chimp common ancestor. Chimps are known for organized raiding party carnage, that’s not the result of resource competition so much as band solidarity and acquiring breeding stock. I’d imagine hominids followed suit right from day one. So much for morality, you can’t argue with the genes.

  7. e sutton

    Jimmy sez: “Chimps are known for organized raiding party carnage, that’s not the result of resource competition so much as band solidarity and acquiring breeding stock.”

    Been to Baltimore or St. Louis lately, Jimbo?

    Lee sez: (quoting Elaine) “Multicultural cultures are the strongest.”

    But, but, but…if the Muslims and Africans aren’t present, who’ll culturally enrich all those hot, young European babes?

    After all, we’re all the same, right? There will be more cultural enrichment for the fine young ladies and gay gents of Europe, and sooner rather than later, the U.S.. Merkel, Obama, Hollande, et. al. are doing a masterful job of letting loose the feral animals hell bent on destroying the white race, while the liberals cheer enthusiastically from the stands.

    The rest of the population is too concerned with watching “Dancing With the Stars” and whose going to win the feetsball Super (toilet) bowl.

    Gee, I wonder whose behind all this mayhem and destruction? Is there perhaps a country that currently receives 25% of its military budget from the United States? Is that same country openly accepting these poor, teeming masses? And lastly, which country (using the US as proxy) has done more to destroy the various countries in the ME than any other.

    Ask not these questions, for if you do, you’ll be crossing over into virulent “hate speech”, and subject to eternal earthly damnation.

  8. Pennsylvanian

    One of the tried-and-true tactics of the j*wsmedia is to present a view that they want to propagate as being held by ordinary people. We have no idea of how common the attitude of “peace love and understanding” toward Muslim and African invaders is among ordinary Germans. But we sure know that the j*wsmedia wants us to believe that it is the view of common, decent Germans, as opposed to stupid crazy evil Nazis-who-want-to-kill 6 millions j*ws. They do this all the time in terms of which interviews they choose to air or which views of the “common man/woman on the streets.” The safest perspective for the discerning viewer to take is that they will *never* be without a propaganda motive.

    Along the same lines, it’s easy to present unprincipled thugs or hooligans waving a swastika flag or with swastika tattoos as being “Nazis,” thus forming a conscious or subconscious connection in the unthinking viewer between thuggishness and National Socialists. (Like at the end of the TV series “Breaking Bad,” the evil gang run by “Todd’s uncle.”). I for one will never denigrate or slander white Germans past or present, except perhaps for modern Germans who embrace genocidal SJW ideas….as I once did.

    My teenage son is in a large high school and he says that while the SJW and trans-LGBQRST types tend to be loud and pushy, they are actually in the small minority and most kids just wish they would go away.

  9. Petruchio

    I can’t help but note that, in most European and Scandinavian countries–and Germany is one of them–prostitution is LEGAL. Rape is not about sex; it’s about control, domination and anger. with the Muslim immigration wave, I think the rapes being committed by these Muslim males is about cultural attitudes and, REVENGE. I think the Muslim males who are committing these rapes look at their victims as subhuman and they want to seek revenge against the Western world, the Infidels. This is one of the reasons THIS immigration wave is different than say, the Irish immigration wave of the late 19th, early 20th centuries.

  10. emsnews

    Oh, the Irish were very rowdy way back 150 years ago! Ditto, the Scots! Very energetic, too, I may add.

    The captive populations ruled by the Norman elites always did better when they fought back. This energy ended up in the New World due to deportations of troublemakers (including Norman troublemakers which is why my family came here hundreds of years ago) and raging battles which are quite famous.

    One huge problem for racists here in the US, for example, is that the black African population happens to produce many, many of our athletes because evolution made their bodies very, very good at doing many difficult and amazing physical feats.

    One aspect of Nazi-type racism is, the foolish belief that the Master Race is superior in all ways especially physically which is crazy and stupid.

  11. Jim R

    Multicultural societies ARE the strongest. Though they may not all turn out to your liking, esp. if you are in one of the mono-cultural enclaves. . .

    But this deliberate importation of the losers and criminals, mostly males, from the MENA, seems to me a deliberate act. I don’t think it will end well..

    One good example of multicultural strength is England. They didn’t import foreigners on purpose, but their little island was repeatedly overrun by Gaels, Vikings, Germans, etc etc etc, going back into prehistoric times. And from that mess, they built the first worldwide empire.

    As for physical strength, it is a nice thing to have, but ALL the other great apes are many times stronger than we humans. We rule by collaborating in larger groups, and using tools, and all-out treachery. A chimp is able to snap your femur like a twig, but if it does so, its entire clan will be killed by tool-using weaklings.

    ΩΩΩ

    ELAINE: My clan bought English estates via killing the king and taking over!

  12. Lee

    ELAINE: They ARE but only if there is a unified school system plus WORK. What is missing now? Work is being reduced to bare bones for the working classes and this is setting off tensions between ethnic groups.

    Tensions always exist tween ‘groups’ [rival clans].
    Read Rifkins book, ‘The End of Work’–and know his info is now 20-25 years old.
    Automation is and will continue to devastate.

    Any suggestions?

  13. John

    While multiracial societies may offer some unique strengths, multicultural is another matter entirely. A country has little hope of peace with multiple competing cultures all vying for supremacy. E Pluribus Unum – or there will be deep and intractable problems.

  14. emsnews

    The US system worked for generations via free public schools.

    During which, in Europe, most places you had to pay for schools for children. The idea of public schools was a US idea, that is, all the lands opened up for sale had to include land and taxes for schools for even poor children and this culture made America much stronger.

    Now it is collapsing in the cities as anyone in a city with poor kids in huge numbers must use private schools which has fueled the flight to the suburbs.

  15. Lee

    Now it is collapsing in the cities as anyone in a city with poor kids in huge numbers must use private schools which has fueled the flight to the suburbs.

    From a former professional writer, that is a confusing sentence.

    The US system worked for generations via free public schools.
    Only because the schools taught WHITE children who wanted to learn.
    Black males mostly drop out before finishing 12th grade.

    EMS was in NYC in the 1960s? That was the beginning of the end.
    That creep, Lindsay, brought in Bi Lingual education.

    timeline

    1960–NYC– one language in schools.
    1970–2 languages [because the PRs didnt want to quickly learn English]
    1990–oops—130? languages that public school is taught in.

    Just the expense of that, never mind the folly. 130 languages.

  16. Jim R

    This just in from Europe. Mars awakens. It remains to be seen whether the various “foreign aid” and deep state agencies can blame Russia for it, but here it is:

    200 Swedes Storm Occupied Stockholm Train Station, Beat Migrant Children

    Submitted by Tyler Durden on 01/30/2016 11:51 -0500

    … balding, bearded, cigar-chomping ‘children’ … well, maybe not the cigar part …

    ΩΩΩΩ

    ELAINE: The ‘children’ are teens and young adults. AHEM…when I was a mere lass of 16, the police beat us mercilessly and gassed us and other things when we protested against the War in Vietnam…and not a soul said this was naughty of them to do this to us.

    When the cops arrested me for jaywalking (yup!!!) I was still a kid and this started a riot when others tried to overturn the police car I was in. Then they blamed the riot on me, not the cops. Then they backed off when they learned my age.

  17. Christian W

    From LeeLouLuc:

    The US system worked for generations via free public schools.
    Only because the schools taught WHITE children who wanted to learn.
    Black males mostly drop out before finishing 12th grade.

    In Israel the Jewish supremacists are deliberately squeezing Palestinian kids out of the school system using various underhanded means. The Palestinian drop out rate is very high. Now is that because it is a deliberate policy of the Zionists (which is obvious if you look at how the Zionists treat the Palestinians ie making it difficult if not impossible simply to get to school by building imposing walls and security checks, or forcing kids to go home to work and support the family due to blockades and economic pressure, dubious future job prospects in Israel for highly educated Palestinians etc ie will a Jew or a Palestinian get a job if both are equally qualified) or is it because the Palestinian race is inferior, unmotivated, more stupid or whatever?

  18. Lee

    Israel kills, we agree.

  19. emsnews

    Black children going to school in the deep south were treated the same, back before 1964.

    Alas, the culture of not learning from back then has been embedded in the black inner city communities and this is SAD not glad stuff. Overcoming culture is very difficult and impossible if sadistic media giants who are mostly NOT black, celebrate the most destructive cultural stuff, the slum stuff, of black kids who are out of control now.

    This celebration of destruction like elevating graffiti to ‘art’ and telling them that weird clothing choices and body destruction is ‘fantastic’ has trapped black children in perpetual poverty.

    Blaming them for being lured into self-destruction (including football which is over 60% black males now!) is called EXPLOITATION and not the fault of black people who fell into this trap.

  20. csurge

    @Elaine

    I believe the term you’re looking for is… Stockholm syndrome. The name seems more appropriate than ever. The Western Europeans have been subjected to over 20+ years of creeping Leftist propaganda. That’s not easy to shake off. And it is one of the reasons why I think this may really be the end of them. Indeed, they might not be able to break the mental conditioning until they are fully enslaved. And even then, Stockholm syndrome will persist among many women.

    @ 16

    Just a taste of what’s coming. I’m not sure if the natives can win, but at least they can throw a few punches while going down

  21. csurge

    Actually, I think the whole Western world is suffering from a form of Stockholm syndrome when it comes to Islam

    I recently found this website:

    http://www.politicalislam.com/

    I’ve found Warner’s analysis of Islam very helpful in understanding what jihad means, and why the Christian civilizations have suffered a form of Stockholm syndrome for centuries

  22. Lee

    is called EXPLOITATION and not the fault of black people who fell into this trap.—
    Black people dont fall into traps, they set them. Check the crime stats the government offers.
    In other countries the gov wont list race.
    In our country gov lies about race, listing latinos, mulattos and even blacks as WHITE criminals.
    Thug report.com was a good site. It is gone. SBPDL is another good one.

  23. Lee

    csurge– web search ‘european girl arrested for using pepper spray on attacker.’

    I kid you not.

  24. Lee

    black kids who are out of control now.
    On this we agree. And the media and gov hide facts about Blacks attacking non Blacks.

    And Obama [who you said should be impeached] spoke about Trayvon Martin, in defense of him and his attacking Zim.
    ‘If I had a son..etc’

  25. Petruchio

    @#20 csurge: your comment reminds of how strong the EXTREME double standard works in the USA. In the US a black male can stalk and threaten AND physically beat his girlfriend WITH IMPUNITY if said girlfriend is WHITE. Here’s the contrast part: IF you are a WHITE MALE and you even raise your voice to your girlfriend or wife you can be arrested and PERMANENTLY tainted with the Domestic Abuse label on your record. You may have to go to Anger Management classes and/or placed on probation. All of this will of course be duly noted on your record.

  26. Lee

    Elaine, look, near you —Black Lies Matter. racial taunts, yes. Aimed at Yt [whitey] but the protest is for the oppressed african savages we have to live with.

    http://www.ambrosekane.com/2016/02/05/black-lies-matter-how-allegations-of-racially-motivated-violence-against-blacks-by-white-albany-students-got-reversed/#respond

  27. Lee

    One of the horrible black savages in ‘my’ link has a pro football brother who threatened a White student via twitter, Due to sis’es lies.
    Twitter is good for blacks, 130 or so characters.

    re,Blaming them for being lured into self-destruction (including football which is over 60% black males now!) is called EXPLOITATION and not the fault of black people who fell into this trap.

    BOO HOO HOO. THOSE POOR EXPLOITED BLACKS.

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