Friend’s Grandson Bit By Humane Society Adopted Pit Bull

And he, just three years old, barely survived.  The pit bull was adopted by his 16 year old sister and they were told ‘This dog is friendly with children’.  So, the child was eating something, the pit bull ran up to him and bit his entire face, the child went into surgery for six hours and now has huge scars down the face, the nose was nearly bitten off by this dangerous dog.

 

I assured the family this morning, they should sue the Humane Society for telling them the dog was child-friendly and I hope they succeed in this, it was utterly irresponsible to release dangerous dog breeds based in people’s personal assessment.  I want all pit bulls put down by this group, not reinserted into society when they are obvious failures as pets.

 

I have to go to work now.  Will write about this later.

 


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30 responses to “Friend’s Grandson Bit By Humane Society Adopted Pit Bull

  1. Petruchio

    I do believe that when you adopt a pet from the Humane Society you sign a waiver absolving the Society from any legal liability. How well a challenge to that waiver would work I don’t know. Clearly some dogs that have been abused by previous owners should be destroyed–humanely. I note in passing the ‘Save the Animals” ads you see on TV. All well and good, but WHERE are the ads about PEOPLE who are suffering in this country because of the economic times? Priorities?

  2. turk151

    My condolences; the laws of unintended consequences tend to be rather merciless.

  3. Melponeme_k

    The only solution is not to adopt dogs at all. Everyone move on to cats or other small creatures. At least these animals will not kill you or your family.

    If the shelters are stuck with dogs, mainly pit bulls, they will get the message. Meanwhile we need to get ordinances against pit bulls established. However this will also mean that regulators will go after Black or Hispanic owners and you know they will cry racism.

  4. Jim R

    Oh good, a new pit bull thread. The old one was getting long-in-the-tooth.
    Haha.

    We just saved a couple of dogs from the needle of death. From San Antonio Pets Alive. Both mixed-breed but don’t look like much terrier in them. The shelter has dozens of pits up for adoption.

  5. Melponeme_k

    @Jim R

    Cross breeds are no safer than the pure breeds. In fact the cross probably makes them even more harder to control.

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/cumbria-dog-attack-death-father-8031117

    Its very easy to see the mix. The shelters are trying to pass off the pits as the breed it crossed (Collies, Retriever, Spaniels etc) but you’ll see the tell tale signs of overly broad skulls, jaws and stocky chest in the animals. I personally would not adopt any dog from a shelter these days.

    Stick with cats, guinea pigs, gerbils or rabbits people. I don’t advise any breed of domestic pig. Pigs, even the smallest, are extremely strong and also can be dangerous when in a high temper.

  6. Jim R

    Like I said, they don’t have terrier in them. Pits are big terriers.

    Once you’ve known a lot of dogs, you can quickly tell whether they have the personalities of shepherds, hounds, retrievers, or terriers.

    Plus, they are little guys.

    We did once have a big dog that was a little worrisome, he has passed on now. He was a Belgian Malanois (big shepherd) but was the product of show dog breeders, was overly inbred and had epilepsy. He was kinda spooky and weird after a seizure. And he was afraid of a lot of things — other dogs, the dark, etc. Usually a Belgian is a really nice dog. But they are big, and could do a lot of damage if they bit someone.

  7. Ken

    It is interesting that no one has focused upon one special fact about dogs from shelters. They are all “fixed” as a prerequisite to adoption. That acts to prevent even more unwanted stray dogs.

    It is common knowledge that “fixed” dogs tend to be gentler than “unfixed” dogs. Yet in spite of being “fixed” the pit bull was still a killer. We are talking about a seriously inherited trait. It is unlikely to be easily bred out of them.

  8. Jim R

    So much of dog behavior is hereditary.. Retrievers like to play fetch, for example. They are born to play fetch, and the ones that are more enthusiastic are allowed to breed — this selection process has gone on for varying lengths of time, hundreds of years for many breeds. So we have all kinds of working and sporting dogs.

    Well, pit bulls were bred for the sport of dog fighting. Regardless of whatever lies their owners like to tell, that is what the breed does. They can’t compete with greyhounds on the racetrack, and they are no good at herding, since they’ll just kill all the sheep.

    The aggression is a part of the breed. Simple as that. Obedience training and ‘dog-whispering’ and pack dynamics are only minor secondary influences on their behavior.

  9. tio

    This, what is it in itself, and by itself, according to its proper constitution? What is the substance of it? What is the matter, or proper use? What is the form, or efficient cause? What is it for in this world, and how long will it abide? Thus must thou examine all things that present themselves unto thee. – Meditations.

    I could use a little pussy.

  10. Henry

    I know it’s very trendy among certain groups of people to get a dog from a shelter. “You’re saving a helpless animal from death!” Most of these people don’t know or understand dogs. Dogs are pack animals, There’s the pack leader or alpha dog (this better be you) and all the other dogs soon find their place in the hierarchy of the pack. When an adult dog is brought into a family, it doesn’t know its place in the “pack”. This causes problems with children. With highly aggressive dogs like pit bulls, this can be serious. It is far better to start with a puppy for any breeds of dog, but especially pit bulls.

  11. Jim R

    Henry,
    Dominance/submission is a completely different dimension than aggression/passivity. Got that? And bite inhibition is yet another dimension. There are many many dimensions to dog personalities.

    One theory going around is that dogs are missing some of the components that make up the personalities of wild canids like wolves and coyotes. In the wild, wolves are more pack-oriented (more social) than coyotes. But one thing domestic dogs are not is pack animals. Pit bulls least of all, notice that they kill one another. They have that predation instinct, like cats, but not a whole lot else. Chihuahuas are probably the most ‘packish’ of dogs. I can only imagine, falling into a pack of Chi’s must be like swimming through a school of piranhas.

    Pit bulls are aggressive and they like to bite things. So there ya go.

    Domestic dogs will always recognize their human master as alpha. Wolves or coyotes, even if they are raised from puppies, never do. A wild coyote will kill your domestic dog no matter what breed it is. Pit, Pyrenees, or Poodle, they just hate humans’ canids.

    So anyway, my spouse is a bleeding heart type who likes to save them from the animal shelter. We do, and we have, saved quite a few of them over the last 20 years. Goofy hound mixes, recognizable purebreds, a Shi Tzu we literally found wandering by the side of I35, and the occasional Chi. Our very best was a purebred Border Collie that was picked up off the street in a Mexican area of town — her owners never came to pick her up. She could manage the rest of our motley crew with the mere twitch of an eyebrow. Never had to bite anyone, and rarely growled, she was dominant.

    However, we do not adopt Pits.

  12. Henry

    Jim R

    “But one thing domestic dogs are not is pack animals”

    Sorry this is not correct! If domestic dogs are abandon by their owners they soon revert to the pack with other abandoned dogs. Some of the worst maulings of humans happen from a group of dogs. It doesn’t take much to bring out the pack instinct in dogs, it;s just under the surface.

  13. emsnews

    Absolutely, dogs are definitely pack animals! It is fundamental in nature and why we have to be ‘alpha’ inside any group of dogs. I have retrained a number of dogs but the only one I ever put down for being unworkable was a half pitbull which had a lot of pit bull head characteristics: the small, close set eyes and wide jaws are the warning signs that the dog will be violent.

  14. Jim R

    Haha, beware the SLA (The Shih Tzu Liberation Army)! Nobody expects the little yappers to attack!

    No, the truth is that 99.95% of the dogs which are dumped off in the country, or discarded and neglected in town, simply die. They can’t hunt their own food, and/or they get killed in fights with the other dogs. But even Pits that are abandoned this way don’t do well. They aren’t ‘leaders’ of a pack, they are just bullies. The others run away from them. Aggression is not the same thing as leadership.

    That ‘alpha’ leadership quality that is rare in dogs is, of course, always present in wild canids. The shepherd breeds have the best leadership skills, but still come in beta to humans.

    If people feed them, a feral pack can form, and they end up being sort of throwbacks to the jackals from which they originated. They are more dangerous to people than wild dogs, because they do not run away and avoid people like truly wild canids do.

    The many-thousand-year association between canids and hominids is obviously a complicated historical quilt.

  15. Petruchio

    You have to handle dogs properly. Treat them for what they are: DOGS. I think a lot of people know of a dog (or other pet, like a cat) who spoil their dog rotten. Big Mistake!! If the animal thinks you are soft, they won’t pay attention to you if you try to discipline them or get them to behave. Animals can sense your temperament. Show weakness, the animal will act one way. Show firmness without being abusive, you have a different animal. If you as a dog (pet) owner show softness, dogs will interpret that as a sign not of kindness, but of weakness.

  16. Melponeme_k

    @Petruchio

    Cat owners pretty much accept that their cats will never see them as anything more than an enjoyable companion whose job is to feed them. No one really underestimates cats and they accepted for what they are capable of giving.

    Dogs however are always underestimated and we humans always think they will be submissive. Hence all the jackasses adopting Pit Bulls. These animals were bred to attack bears and bulls, to show no fear or to give quarter. This can’t be bred out of them. No amount of love will change their nature. Therefore this breed that WE created out of negligence and ill will should go extinct. Euthanize Pit strays and ban their ownership. Jail anyone breeding them illegally. This will solve the problem quickly.

  17. Melponeme_k

    Correction: I mean to write give NO quarter. Pit Bulls will not release their jaws during attack. Since when they were pit fighters against bulls, doing so would mean death.

  18. Lou

    The shelter has dozens of pits up for adoption.—Yes, in Texas the Mexicans and Blacks over breed them, for fighting.

  19. Lou

    I do not claim to be an expert.
    It is common knowledge that “fixed” dogs tend to be gentler than “unfixed” dogs. — I read that it does not matter if the dog is male and was not castrated by 6 months. At 6 months the testosterone increases and creates a personality change that is not undone by neutering.

    Yet in spite of being “fixed” the pit bull was still a killer.
    Lets say the dog is male and 2 years old.
    It gets castrated. How long until its testosterone level gets to a low?

  20. Jim R

    The shelter has dozens of pits up for adoption.—Yes, in Texas the Mexicans and Blacks over breed them, for fighting.

    Correct. The breed was not created to fight bulls or bears or hunt anything or do any useful task. The breed exists to fight each other. Which makes them nasty pets. Even the ones that are not aggressive enough for the ring.

  21. melponeme_k

    @Jim R

    The pit bull terrier was bred in England for Bull & Bear baiting plus dog fighting. Quite popular in Elizabethan times and was part of entertainment bill before regular plays such as Shakespeare’s works.

    These variant pit bull types were nasty from the 1600s long before modern day blacks or hispanic gang members ever got their hands on them.

  22. Jim R

    Oh and by the way, Lou left out a group there — dumb white people. No need to be so racist, lower class whites raise pits as well. Some I have known personally.

  23. Lou

    No need to be so racist, lower class whites raise pits as well. Whites raise dogs for fighting? Never read of that in the news.

  24. Jim R

    One dog you do find a lot in Texas shelters is the Chihuahua. Very popular with Texican-Mexicans. They’re small, you can hide them in an apartment, and you can have more than one, it doesn’t take much to feed them.

    Lou, you need to get out more.

  25. Lou

    Jim R, pfttttttttttttttttttttttttt

  26. Lou

    Elaine, this month there was a killing in Tallahassee, Florida.
    An old man was eaten by a Black mans 4 dogs.
    Most of his body was eaten.
    The dogs do not look like PBs.
    One looks like it might be a Rotty cross.

  27. emsnews

    Yes, there are more and more crosses like that. Terrible business.

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