Yale Students Demand End To Learning Shakespeare And Other English Lit Stuff

Who Killed the Liberal Arts? – YouTube

I used to be a ‘liberal arts’ major with a major in German Language and minor in Music (I played the cello, several medieval instruments and performed on stage with dance, etc. and did research in the history of music especially Germany) and my entire field was suddenly and brutally totally eliminated except for beginning German, in 1974.  Now, university officials are on this jihad against Western Culture led by blacks and females who hate all things created by white males in Europe and America.  Now, Yale University, long after UCLA, has joined the jihadists and is probably going to eliminate the requirement that everyone has to learn about Western Culture.  Then there is music: that is being wiped out too.  Replaced with savage short pop music that isn’t even music anymore but then Arnold Schoenberg 12 tone music 100 years ago nearly destroyed traditional music, too.


 Angry Yale students petition to ‘decolonize’ the school’s English department and stop forcing students to take ‘Major English Poets’ course filled with white male writers| Daily Mail Online–I am assuming they want rap and rock and roll and other stuff instead:


‘The Major English Poets sequences creates a culture that is especially hostile to students of color.  When students are made to feel so alienated that they get up and leave the room, or get up and leave the major, something is wrong.’ complains the university.


The Major English Poets course requires that students spend two semesters studying the works of Chaucer, Shakespeare, and Milton, as well as Edmund Spenser, John Donne, Alexander Pope and William Wordsworth.  The second semester seminar instructor, in addition, is also allowed to teach either the work of T.S. Eliot or ‘another modern poet’…


But students and professors alike are now arguing that both the course – and major itself – are leaving out the work of women, people of color, and those who identify with the LGBTQ community…’What does a strong education in the discipline of English look like today? And what should it look like tomorrow? The English Department faculty is charged with asking those questions about all of our courses.’


All universities teaching ‘humanity’ (sic) courses desperately want to please students and feed them whatever garbage in the pig sty as possible.  That is, to get MONEY from the fools taking these fake courses, they charge an arm and a leg and one cannot escape these loans easily (DEATH) and so any courses that even slightly irritate or stretch the mind will be ruthlessly eliminated.  Even by Yale, I suggest they have a poetry class called ‘Skull and Bones chants: does the magic work?’ or some such.  They can hire me to teach it, it is a fair long commute but I can do this for them in a pinch so long as they pay transportation costs.


HAHAHA.  And the demands of these ‘students’ who are not protesting taking cheap, fake or stupid classes and being ripped off when they discover they have no real skills…the university is seriously going to do as these gangs of Maoists are demanding:


If this English major does go through any changes, they won’t be made until next year.  ‘We’ll be in conversation with our students, who have a range of views,’ Hammer writes. ‘And we’ll make our decisions about what we teach and what we ask of students that seem appropriate to us.’


I am not the only human to notice all this.  One of my favorite sites is this one:  Confessions of a College Professor who has talked about this specific matter around two years ago:  English Lit Degree: Shakespeare OUT, Sex and Ethnicity IN | Confessions of a College Professor


“To get a bachelor’s degree in English Literature…you must take courses in Gender, Race, Ethnicity, Disability or Sexuality Studies….but you are not required to take a single course in Shakespeare…”


I certainly grant I’m no expert in English Literature (the author of this site is a professor in hard math), but Shakespeare is very influential in Western Society, especially the English speaking part of the world. Even if I’m wrong about this, I’m pretty sure when it comes to literature written by English people, Shakespeare is rather a large figure.


And you can get a whole degree in English Literature from UCLA, a top school, where you need not be even passingly familiar with anything by Shakespeare. I’m not picking on UCLA here–much as I’ve identified schools where you can get a Math Education degree, even a graduate degree, without taking any math, Prager has identified UCLA as a place where English Literature degree holders need not know the basics of English literature.


And so the slaughter of anyone trained in the high arts continues apace.  This hit music way back in my youth: we were expected to love atonal music which is nasty stuff, hurts my brain, my ears, my entire body.  Being run over by screeching NYC subway cars is less painful.  Yet, we were ordered by the university professors to study this and suffer this.  Today, students tell the professors what they want to hear or see which in this case, might be a good thing except the students are just as tone deaf and want easy or stupid stuff, not the hard to learn stuff.

How the West Rejected Nice Music A Century Ago with Steven Cassedy — To Be Musical (Extended Cut) – YouTube


The destruction of Western Civilization continues apace.  Barbarian modes of action are destroying everything in the path of these hordes running riot and our cities will burn again this summer, I am betting, it is already beginning.  We know what happens next, history has many such lessons which people stubbornly refuse to learn.


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23 responses to “Yale Students Demand End To Learning Shakespeare And Other English Lit Stuff

  1. Melponeme_k

    Way, way back when I studied for my Music degree in College, I remember touching on atonal music. But it was certainly never a huge part of the curriculum. Most of the semester was focused upon Bach, Mozart, Beethoven and the Romantics. I never minded Schoenberg, Stravinsky or Berg but I never listened to their music regularly. Most of my fellow students hated the atonal studies.

    I’m not surprised Shakespeare is disappearing from English literature classes. His subjects touch upon human hypocrisy and other failings of humanity. Plus his language takes some getting used to hearing. All of this requires work on the part of the students, which they don’t want to do.

  2. Jim R

    The thing is, none of ’em are any good at science or math, either.

    Looks like it’s going to be like when your proud ancestors drove the Romans out of Britain. They went from having central heat, and plumbing, and paved streets etc. to living in mud huts. It took centuries to get back to some of that stuff.

    Welcome to the new Dark Ages..

  3. ziff

    I find the internet has affected my brain, long narratives, i just don’t have the patience , movies even , get on with it !! Yesterday in the city i realized the fine points of art may as well be particles on jupiter. When ART became everything it also became nothing. On the other hand maybe the world never really changes , these serious things being of interest to the tiny few. Money broadens the interest.

  4. Craig

    Can certain contemporary movie scores be considered classical music? I’m thinking about stuff like Lord of the Rings, Pirates of the Caribbean, etc. My daughter is an ice skater and I’ve watched a lot of performances, some skating to music from Beethoven, Mozart etc. and some to movie scores and it would be hard for me to really define why the movie scores can’t be considered in the same way as the classic composers. I’ve read some articles online that say the intent of movie scores is to correspond to moving images therefore not pure, contemplative music, but then again isn’t that what classical opera theater did too?

  5. Melponeme_k


    No movie scores are contemporary and a shoot off from pop music culture. Although there are some that quite beautiful, they aren’t thematically deep enough nor work within the classical music structure to be considered classical.

  6. emsnews

    Star Wars brought back ‘classical music’ to the movies. The movies would be naked without the powerful music based on Wagner and Mahler in nature.

  7. emsnews

    Cello joke #1 is about lightning not hitting in the same place! Um, I play the cello and get hit by lightning a lot.

  8. Petruchio

    This is the kind of stupidity you get when taxpayers subsidize education. (Private school or not, Yale gets help from the taxpayers). I have said it for a long time: SLASH public funding of Higher Education!! Severely. Let these Political Correctness idiots enter into the REAL Free Market. Then they can experience first hand the feeling of success or failure. If these arrogant a##holes want to ban anything and everything related to white males, fine. But they have to do it ON THEIR OWN DIME!!!
    These are the folks who have absolutely NO PROBLEM whatsoever with loading their students up with HUGE debt–and then throwing them into a PUTRID job market. Slash Higher Ed taxpayer subsidies–ALL subsidies by 80%, for starters. My message to them would then be: “How’s THAT for Free Will mofos? ( I wouldn’t say ‘mofos’, btw. I would use the full term.)
    And while I’m on the subject of YALE, here’s my next suggestion: nuke the “Numbskull and Boneheads” house, preferably when there is a full membership meeting inside.

  9. tio

    I got hit by lightening once, 30 years ago, she was tiny and Swedish. I come here for the crackle and the smell of ionised air 😀

  10. Christian W

    Do you recall the Microsoft study I posted a while back that showed that, as a result of our adiction to electronic gadgets, we are increasingly becoming Goldfish with 15 second attention span, but better at multitasking?

    Why bother with hard stuff that requires concentration, ability to understand other people and cultures, empathy and emotional insight, when you already have set your world view in stone, based on ethnicity or some other concept, and are incapable of having that world view challenged without some kind of nervous or emotional breakdown (which seems rather common at campuses today)?

  11. tio

    Double down.

  12. Shawntoh


    I agree with you completely. When I was in high school, I was in a book club and we read and discussed such classics as–

    – The Iliad by Homer (NOT the Simpson, but the ancient Greek!)
    – The Idiot by Dostoevsky
    – Look Homeward Angel by Thomas Wolfe

    …and many others

    Well, I admit, I never read Ivanhoe by Sir Walter Scott, but I recall an older classmate in the grade above me saying they had to read it for their high school English Lit. class and they hated it due to the “ancient” literary style.

    I recall studying Shakespeare in English class and I saw some of his plays staged at a local college. This was in the mid to late 1970s. I like him, though the language barrier is a bit daunting at times with the funky English he uses to convey his message.

    His humor doesn’t mean much to us nowadays but he does make timeless statements making it worth our efforts to study his work.

    I recall Gene Simmons of the band, KISS, said in an interview that “Shakespeare is s***”. So there we have it, Elaine, we could hold that guy accountable and make an example of him!

    Elaine, I demand someone make a citizen’s arrest of that man, and as a part of the sentence, he should teach Shakespeare since Simmon’s hinted he’s tiring of the KISS body armor he wears and that would be a good retirement for him as well as performing community service as a part of his sentence!

    Well, I can dream, can’t I? 😉

    Do high schools and colleges even have much for book clubs anymore where they discuss the works of authors?

    Elaine, could anti-intellectualism and pseudo-intellectualism be the factor here in the American Way of Life?

    I note the impact of consumerism, too, with the emphasis of prestige, with the idea of owning the latest best seller some how makes one something even if the person hasn’t read more than few pages of the books owned– now could that be the factor as well, possibly?

    Now time to face the music–

    I note that, other than Frank Zappa, who only used 12-Tone sequences VERY briefly in limited musical sections in a few songs, 12-Tone music has never been used much at all, except in teaching Western Music History and a few “modern music” concerts, mostly at colleges and universities.

    Modern Music has made some aspects of pop music interesting, though, such as–

    Odd meters have appeared in some pop songs like “Money” by Pink Floyd. The time meter is in 7/4, but even that takes a break and goes into 4/4 in the middle instrumental section before going back to 7/4.

    But I will point out that certain folk music, which pre-dates 20th pop music, has odd meters and I note Béla Bartók documented that, as well as other folks, I understand.

    Elaine, I agree, Wagner really got down the boogie groove with using the Tristan chord, which is referred to as a “half-diminished” chord but that’s not all!

    Consider this– “A Whiter Shade of Pale”, you remember that one, Elaine? It was a big hit in England and did make it to slot number 5 on the US pop charts in 1967. Why that song has a G13th chord that starts the chorus of that song!

    The 13th chord is more associated with modern Jazz and mostly is used to bring resolution to the ending of a song. In the case of a G13 chord, the tones are G, B, D, F, A, C, and E (the 13th note).

    If you get really going with those pesky 13th chords you can throw in some flats (flat 5ths, flat 9ths) and sharps (sharp 5ths and sharp 9ths) and more, but speaking as a guitar player, you’d better have your music theory and harmony down by studying the work of the late great Ted Greene or a local competent Jazz teacher!

    Even then, those chords are so rich sounding it’s can be sometimes like equivalent of eating some food with too many different spices tossed in.

    Usually they drop out the root of the chord and the 5th (unless altered), anyway, as the bass player covers that and I note it’s not common to play extended chords in most cello music anyway. Here’s my point, though–

    There’s NEVER been a hit pop song that was 12-tone construction in format! I can’t name one, can you?

    The whole aspect of “atonality” was apart of the Expressionist movement and I note that ole Arnie Schoenberg did have an impact on some of the soundtrack music in movies in the mid to later 20th century.

    But not much 12-tone stuff there, it’s all so-called “atonal” and it’s for an emotional effect, mostly signally intense moments in the scenes of movies that involve suspense, especially horror or sci-fi movies.

    Now, you could clear a room of guests using recordings 12-tone music, I’m sure, if you need the guests to leave at 1 a. m. in the morning!

    Hey try that sometime if you have unwanted guests hanging around that you want to leave, but I will accept no responsibility for the consequences and say use at your own risk with guests!

    Atonal blasts of music in some soloing by Jazz and Rock musicians and others can be interesting but it’s pretty rare that some folks can pull that off.

    John Coltrane did, IMHO, on his cover of “But Not For Me” from his classic album, My Favorite Things. See –> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxuxhERiwQM

    But note the balance, there’s the atonal versus the melodic in his playing in this period. Later, when he experimented more and had Pharoah Sanders in his band, things became more problematic, IMHO.

    Take for example, the live version of Coltrane’s classic ballad, “Naima” from Live at the Village Vanguard Again. See –> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WY4b5ccSUg

    The sections with Coltrane are beautifully emotional with the “atonal” bursts as his solos climax, but when Pharoah Sanders solos, I can’t take too much of his “atonal” squeaks and honks for long after a certain point.

    Though again, it does make for great “room cleaning and clearing out” in certain respects. Use with caution, of course!

    Let’s not b sharp or b flat but b natural, IMHO, when it comes to certain issues.

    Elaine, I promise, no cellos were harmed when I wrote this or if they were reading any of my drivel. At least I sincerely hope so.

    So kids, please get into some Shakespeare and Wagner tonight after you complete your homework. Some Anton Webern is good to complete your studious day, too. See –> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBe2vMx1Xjk

    If there’s anyone left after I have cleared the room with my long essay, thanks for reading this! Peace.


    ELAINE: And all this beautifully written. Very astute! 🙂

  13. nclaughlin

    I’ve always like Ennio Morricone’s movie scores.

  14. Lou

    Harvard has a HIpHop museum.

  15. Seraphim

    Do I need to tell you where Shakespeare is more popular than ever?

    “Britain and Russia find something they can agree on: Shakespeare’s death”

    “Events across Britain and the world will commemorate the 400th anniversary of William Shakespeare’s death on Saturday, but in Russia the date will be used to kickstart a year celebrating British literature.
    On Monday next week, every Russian school will have a lesson devoted to Shakespeare, and next month a Moscow metro train will be decked out with a Shakespeare theme, both inside and outside.
    “Shakespeare is popular everywhere, of course, but he’s so significant here you could even think of him as being a Russian writer in some ways,” said Michael Bird, head of the British Council in Russia.”

    ‘Xinhua Insight: Decoding Shakespeare in China’

    “Zhu the poet marveled at the language of Shakespeare. “Four hundred years after the lines were written, they are still enlightening,” he said.
    The sentence “there are a thousand Hamlets in a thousand people’s eyes” has become a proverb in China. In his speech in Britain, Chinese President Xi Jinping quoted the line “what’s past is prologue” from the Tempest.
    “Even after a thousand years, we will still be reading Shakespeare,” said Yang Qingxiang, associate professor with Renmin University of China who was among the jury of the Mao Dun Literature Prize, one of China’s most prestigious literary awards.
    A latest collection of Shakespeare’s comedies and tragedies translated by Zhu Shenghao, published in 2013, has sold 8,980 copies, 10,123 copies and 11,976 copies in the three consecutive years on Dangdang.com, a bookselling online platform.
    “If you would like to gain a deeper understanding of the world, or understand how complicated human nature can be, read Shakespeare,” he said.

    To speak nothing about classical music!

  16. emsnews

    Just saw the two wild turkeys who nested next to the road up my mountain this spring and they had six cute little babies who ran off into the tall grass.

    Music should reflect nature is the ideology of the Romantics of the 19th century which is why there was this break from ‘intellectual’ music of the 18th century and earlier such as Bach who is quite intellectual and fun to play for that sort of mind game, I love playing his solo music for the cello.

    But for ‘flying through the heavens’ I go to Beethoven and onwards. Beethoven is the one who slammed open the door to Romanticism with a powerful push. This is all very directly connected with REVOLUTIONS. Very much so.

    Politics and music mirrored each other and still do. Even if the mirror shows nasty stuff. We are still in the Romantic Revolution. Schoenberg hated this even though his Guerre Lieder is super-romantic-revolution and so is Verklärte Nacht, he wanted to retreat to intellectual coldness and did.

    And was very annoying about it all, too. I once compared learning Schönberg’s later music to pulling wings off of flies in school when bored.

  17. Seraphim

    @We are still in the Romantic Revolution.

    It was the ‘Romantic Revolution’ which slowly led to the destruction of ‘Culture’. The soldiers going to the Abbatoirs of WWI&II were ‘flying through the heavens’ to the tunes of fanfares and singing uplifting songs.
    Rap is the degenerate product of the same ‘Romantic Revolution’.

  18. pontiff holysh*t

    Well, Wagner paved the way to atonalty. There was a split, classicists like Schumann and Brahms died earlier while Liszt and Wagner lived on and the Romantics “won”.

    As far as “pop” and jazz go, they have substantial roots in the blues. In a pure blues all of the chords are dominant 7ths, featuring the infamous tri-tone. The progression gains impetus by half-step movement of the tri-tone, rather than the dominant-tonic cadence resolution of diatonic tonality. So is it “atonal”? I think most people would feel some sort of gravitation towards a “key” center, even if the “tonic” chord features the dissonance of the tri-tone.

    But the ancient Greeks, for example, did not endorse the “beauty in the eye of the beholder” stuff. To them, beauty could be described in terms of mathematical ratios and proportions inherent in nature.

    Wagner claimed that Bach was not “complete art”, and I think that reveals a serious flaw in his general understanding of music, even though I understand what he meant by that.

    The best music always comes from mixing styles. Bach and Beethoven did this heavily while Wagner was on a quest for establishing a German nationalistic style.

    12-tone study played heavily in my advanced theory course in school. I told the school they would be better off having a footnote explaining “here is where you can find out more on that if you are interested” while focus the meat of the course on 20th century jazz harmony. But the head of the music department could not even correctly analyze the second chord in “Nessun Dorma” because of his rejection of jazz as serious music. He got confused because the upper partials were in the lower voices. Of course, on the exam I gave his incorrect answer to get credit. Meanwhile, he thought Shoenberg was just dandy as a serious composer.

  19. emsnews

    I specialized in Medieval music. I brought back from Germany the first German medieval music and donated it all to the music department at my university.

    The Minnesanger were most interesting and they explored the idea of ‘what is music’ which is overlooked today. They did not do ‘folk music’. The ROMANTICS including Mahler did a lot of ‘volken musick’ to the point, they went around the villages, recording via notation, various folk songs, etc.

    This, in turn, led to ‘nationalist’ music lead by Dvorak and Smetana two composers I adored in my youth to a fanatical degree, for example.

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