The Attempted Sinking of the USS Liberty (in 1967) – YouTube
After years of pushing hard, the official 9/11 Report’s section on the Saudis was finally revealed. This was the only part of the report that had any real news to it and it was the part most important for figuring out what to do next. And revealing this information led to our government, the Saudis and everyone connected to the coverup to freak out. SECRETS connected to 9/11 are directly connected to our war crimes since then. This is also why our Real Rulers in Israel and the US both are dead set against telling the truth about 9/11, that is, our wonderful ‘allies’ in Saudi Arabia attacked us: Defense Secretary: 9/11 Victims Bill Could Be Devastating to Military — News from Antiwar.com:
With a veto override vote scheduled for Wednesday in the Senate, Defense Secretary Ash Carter is doing some last minute public lobbying against the Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism Act (JASTA), which previously passed unanimously in both the House and Senate.
JASTA would allow the families of victims of the 9/11 attacks to sue Saudi Arabia for its role in supporting plotters in the lead-up to the attack. President Obama vetoed the bill Friday, claiming other nations could reciprocate and that it would open taxpayers up to lawsuits for America’s own misdeeds internationally.
Carter’s opposition to JASTA took a different tack, arguing that a lawsuit against Saudi Arabia over 9/11 would lead to “an intrusive discovery process,” and ultimately lead to the public disclosure of “American secrets,” potentially damaging the terror war.
Oh, our precious secrets! I wondered all my long life why my own father’s WWII activities concerning Nazi rocket scientists was kept locked up. Operation Paperclip didn’t even have a public name years ago! I was the nutty child who spent many years, took the trouble to learn a lot of German, all so I could expose all the secret details of that operation.
It was all kept secret, of course, to hide the Nazis from view of the public. No other reason. The Soviets knew everything, after all! Hell, the Germans absolutely knew everything, too! But not the US public. The scheme evolved to be this: whenever I gave a speech about Operation Paperclip, the government would point to me and say, ‘She is lying, she is crazy.’
Well, our vaunted ‘secrets’ about the series of wars we started way back when we assisted Al Qaeda in Afghanistan when the Soviet Union was trying to subdue the place, were the same people who orchestrated with the help of Saudi royals, to attack the US! Our ‘state secrets’ are all WAR CRIMES.
99.9% of all military ‘secrets’ are either war crimes or plans to commit more war crimes. The dark evil within can’t rule us all if we can see what it is cooking up or what it has done in the past. In order to keep Israel as our pretend ally, for example, Ex-Navy Official: 1967 Israeli Attack on U.S. Ship Was Deliberate in 2003 and…our government claimed he was lying, he was psychotic, he was me. That is, don’t listen to HIM! Both LBJ and Nixon kept up this cover-up, all Presidents since co-operated, too.
The reason the crew who survived (some were murdered by the Israelis) can’t get any justice is our Real Rulers are connected to Israel at the hip and obey, protect and assist Israel in ethnic cleansing and stealing US taxpayer money. All this is criminal. All this has a future explosive end. It is dangerous, futile and is destroying Israel and the US, it is torpedoing both countries.
All the war criminals in the US should be put on trial. Way back during the illegal Vietnam war, I argued with my poor father about this. He testified at the Nüremberg Trials and I knew this because I found his stash of photos of him at the trials! He told me finally, that his testimony was secret and thus, he couldn’t talk to me about it.
Secrets breed evil. Keeping things in the Outerdarkness is highly dangerous. It is a trap. Secrets means one is seeking power one should not have so one can commit crimes and keep these hidden. 34 US navy citizens were slaughtered by the Israelis deliberately.
They are not treated as heroes who get to trot in and out of the White House and showered with honors. We see the mothers of criminals who get shot by cops trotting in and out. Hillary put them on stage to honor them. Not the wives of the men killed by the Israelis. Nothing is named after them, they are never mentioned.
Since they are proof of both the US and Israel colluding against US citizens to murder and then cover up the murder, it has to be kept in the dark so the US public has no idea it happened. This is true of anything to do with Saudi crimes. From the 2003 article:
After the attack, a Navy court of inquiry concluded there was insufficient information to make a judgment about why Israel attacked the ship, stopping short of assigning blame or determining whether it was an accident.
The panel was ordered to make it ‘an accident’ but I remember clearly why the Nixon guys couldn’t lie about this: there was a sailor who took pictures of the attack and the US flag was HUGE and flying and it was a clear, sunny day and the jets attacking flew very close and low so the pilots could see clearly that it was a US ship.
It was “one of the classic all-American cover-ups,” said Ret. Adm. Thomas Moorer, a former Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman who spent a year investigating the attack as part of an independent panel he formed with other former military officials. The panel also included a former U.S. ambassador to Saudi Arabia, James Akins.
The Saudi ambassador knew the Saudi secrets. When my mother stormed out of Saudi Arabia when Carter was President, she gave speeches about what happened there and how cruel, vicious and evil the Saudi royals were and still are. The State Department begged her to shut up so instead, the media lied about her.
I have a long family history of secrets and lies and government attempts at silencing us because we all knew too much. This is also why the communist Chinese trusted me, by the way, which was so funny. They had their own spies check me out and announce that I was totally hated by the government, ergo, they could do business safely with me.
“Why in the world would our government put Israel’s interest ahead of our own?” Moorer asked from his wheelchair at the news conference. He was chief of naval operations at the time of the attack.
Good question and easy answer: Jews here own much of our media and our political system encourages bribery and Clinton illustrates this well, being all about collecting bribes. Will Congress stop doing this and expose why these secret things are happening to us all? I am breathless waiting.
Moorer, who has long held that the attack was a deliberate act, wants Congress to investigate. Israeli Embassy spokesman Mark Regev disputed any notion that Israel knowingly went after American sailors.
And in 2003, Israel continues to lie. The US media won’t blow up over this story, either. They may have a little side story about the lawsuits. But they won’t make a big thing about it. Oh, look, Trump BURPED! They will continue to attack him and paper over Hillary’s obvious illegal war crimes. And Trump won’t call these ‘war crimes’ for he knows that the media will attack and lie about him like crazy and all previous ‘outsider’ candidates who mention this topic are ruthlessly destroyed or like in my case, ignored and covered up by the media giants.
Online there is a lot of information if one can dig it out but alongside is a lot of stupid, idiotic stuff made up by people who have no connection to the government systems committing crimes. I can say proudly that I got my information from the inside, not outside. I was born inside, not outside, and pried into all the secrets on my own due to being curious as to why my father, on the anniversary each spring co-inciding with his entry into the Nazi rocket caves, would have a violent nervous breakdown.
Holding secrets is quite destructive to the mind which is why so many of our own rulers are insane. BTW, the news coming out of the Middle East is very powerful: Saudi chops wage, benefit bill in delicate pursuit of austerity because like the US, the rulers there keep in power via handing out goodies. There is a huge useless population there that is on welfare. Like the US, this is an explosive group who have time on their hands to revolt or attack.
Talking about war criminals especially ones who get Pulitzer Peace Prizes like Obama, etc. Peres, who got a Peace Prize for pretending to a fake ‘peace treaty’ which shafted the Palestinians badly, he is now dead and the US mainstream media is celebrating him as a fine ‘humanitarian’ but the Palestinians beg to differ:
Shimon Peres: Israeli war criminal whose victims the West ignored …
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20160928-shimon-peres-israeli-war– criminal-whose-victims-the-west-ignored/
7 hours ago … Israeli President Shimon Peres reads a newspaper during the Ambrosettiworkshop in Cernobbio, next to Como, in this September 8, 2012 file …
World Leaders Issue Emotional Tributes to Shimon Peres – The New …
49 minutes ago … JERUSALEM — The death of Shimon Peres prompted an outpouring ofemotional … “Peres was an unrepentant war criminal and should be …
Don’t honor Peres‘ war criminal history | The Electronic Intifada
https://electronicintifada.net/content/dont…peres–war–criminal…/789
Don’t honor Peres‘ war criminal history. Palestinian Campaign for the Academic and Cultural Boycott of Israel 9 November 2007. The following is an open letter …
“Shimon Peres, you’re a war criminal!” say Oxford students | The …
https://electronicintifada.net/content/…peres…war–criminal-say…/7822
Nov 20, 2008 … “Shimon Peres, you’re a war criminal! … PSC and supporters had shownPeres “ that those who condone war crimes are not welcome here.
Dear UNESCO: You’re Going to Honor Shimon Peres? Really …
warisacrime.org/…/dear-unesco-youre-going-honor-shimon-peres-really
Salmaan Taseerof Pakistan, Shimon Peres of Israel, Kwame Nkrumahof Ghana, … Iran withwar for developing its nuclear program for avowedly peaceful purposes. … More than an emergency is needed to get to a hospital; less than a crime …
Peres‘ history contradicts his peaceful image – Yale Daily News
yaledailynews.com/…/peres-history-contradicts-his-peaceful-image/
Dec 5, 2006 … Shimon Peres is responsible for the Qana Massacre of 1996, he was … Peacecan be achieved, but only when occupation and war crimes are …
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We just recently watched “Spotlight” on Netflix, a very good documentary.
Anyhow, one thing that was highlighted in the movie is that, in a lawsuit, the courts have access to all kinds of things that might otherwise be kept under wraps and secret. Known as the “discovery phase” of the lawsuit.
The Pentagon and CIA can’t allow these suits to happen against the Saudis because they would inevitably reveal complicity on this side of the Atlantic. As we have discussed quite a bit.
They have to let the perps off the hook to avoid the noose around their own necks.
My hope is that the perps, on both sides of the ocean, live long enough to face justice in person. Some of them are getting kind of old.
Even back in 1967, the US Government was owned lock, stock and barrel by Israel. The Liberty cover up proves it. And of course, the media went along with the cover up also. Makes a person wonder, “If the government is going to lie this outrageously about the Liberty, what else were they lying about?” It’s pretty amazing. A country as small as Israel can have such an extreme stranglehold on a so-called ‘Super Power’ like the USA.
There may be more to the US Liberty story from a somewhat disreputable source, who may be correct, Roger Stone claims that LBJ asked Israel to bomb the Liberty. Mr Stone claims his motivation was to allow a retaliatory bombing of Cairo, possibly with a nuclear weapon, to take out Nasser.
Here is a link: https://www.lewrockwell.com/2015/06/roger-stone/the-uss-liberty-and-lbj/
Recall that only four years earlier, we were pulled into the Deep State web by the JFK assassination. That crime has never been satisfactorily explained. And it required more crimes to cover it up, which required more, and more…
By 1967 the ball was already rolling, dark forces were at work.
This just in …
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-28/senate-overrides-obamas-veto-sept-11-bill
Will all the neocons be moving to Patagonia soon?
LBJ was one of the worst presidents. Or the worst.
1965 immigration act [population skyrockets]
Great Society [Black population skyrockets and debt]
Vietnam war escalation.
and more.
LBJ was bad.
I am probably all alone thinking that Lincoln was the worst— 616,000 Americans dead–, north and south, black and white.
a bad negotiator to be sure, and assassinated after. I go to Washington DC, but don’t visit the Lincoln Memorial.
All the money he printed for fighting he could have just bought off the slaves, and given them their own little plot of land to boot. There would have been better assimilation, and more patriotism from the freed slaves.
The slave owners wouldn’t give up their properties. NOPE. And the violence was started by them. As soon as Lincoln was elected, they attacked Fort Sumpter.
Don’t wipe out history and how it progresses, please. Accuracy is highly important here.
Lincoln didn’t even free the slaves until after two years of fighting. By the way, my own ancestor was in the Arizona territory and fought one Civil War battle there. Pike’s Peak.
Haha, the Battle of Pike’s Peak must have been good material for a comedy movie. Probably not for the people who were there, but… it was sort of out-of-the-way back then.
Here’s a little Syria background I just ran across:
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Why the Arabs don’t want us in Syria by RFK, Jr.
I guess there are all versions of what happened in the Civil war, but Lincoln was not about to let the south secede.
http://militaryhistory.about.com/od/civilwar/a/CivilWarFirst.htm
some southerners call it the war of northern aggression, and most northerners do not. 🙂
The most complex part of it all is…the importation of cheap labor from say, Ireland after the potato famine there, etc. The worth of slaves fell as cheap European labor that was one small step above slave labor in value, absolutely flooded the market for labor so by 1900, millions were brought in to depress wages.
And my own family was very guilty in all this. Owned steel mills in Pittsburgh during and after the Civil War on my grandmother’s side of the family, ended up bankrupt in the following depression then suicide…now we have no more steel mills in Pittsburgh, the place is filled to the brim with useless immigrants from the deep South and overseas seeking welfare money instead of work.
now we have no more steel mills in Pittsburgh–This happened due to Nafta? Most favored nations status for China, blame Clinton.
MIGRANTS from the deep South–Fixed that.
immigration needs have certainly been fulfilled by now, since we have few jobs left in the US. When I was young, the newspapers were FULL of help wanted jobs. You could take a menial job, quit it, and find gainful employment the very next day if you wanted to—No long resumes, and no college degrees with a mountain of debt,.
The kids today will never understand how easy the American job market was before all these “free trade” deals, or how much safer it was.
another illegal immigrant on a killing spree:
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/officials-suspect-in-texas-slayings-was-in-us-illegally/ar-BBwKA5T?ocid=spartandhp
How many more dead Americans until we fix this?
Alas, I believe we just had yet another terror attack in Hoboken at the train station to Manhattan. A train evaded ALL safety systems to crash full steam ahead into the station and into the lobby of the station, killing people and destroying the station.
My family commutes on that train system! I am very upset, totally freaked out by this and it isn’t the first time terrorists have attacked work places or my homes to kill us which is why I am very wary of everything and so weird about stuff.
Since 1974, terror attacks have been a hair’s breath away from my family and I. Shudder.
If this was a terrorist attack, I am very pissed off, very, very pissed off. Damn.
Elaine, if it is not, [sadly] there will be other Muslim attacks on non Muslims
[and sunni killing shia or shia killing sunni].
and with regards to,
When I was young, the newspapers were FULL of help wanted jobs. You could take a menial job, quit it, and find gainful employment the very next day if you wanted to—
I was young in Hawaii and NYC. I recall the 1970s as a time of dire economic depression.
You have different memories than I. What decades did you grow up in?
I was a FULL ADULT by 1971, 21 years old. I had to leave school in 1974 when all the German Language departments across the entire USA were terminated suddenly and with zero warning. So by 1975, I was working in construction and working with a landlord in NYC and became a LANDLADY in 1978 and started the street patrols, the ‘Save Our Schools’ (aka: SOS) and the Park Slope Improvement Committee and other operations to try to fix a very, very broken, corrupt city.
It was a big, fat, corrupt mess back then. I finally just gave up and fled in 1986 to save my children from the mess of a school system.
@#16floridasandy: Spot On about how different employment was back then versus now! And that is what REALLY irritates me about these older, Fox-watching types. You know, the kind that ALWAYS vote Republican even though they are far below the status of millionaires.
Things are much different now. Jobs are harder to find compared to when these older, mostly retired folks were growing up. The Labor Market has been deliberately flooded with cheap immigrant labor in an effort to keep labor wages down. These “Fox Republicans” don’t seem to realize this–mainly because their average age is 68(!).
Maybe these heartless “Republican retiree’ types need a dose of reality. Maybe they should give up or better yet LOSE their Social Security benefits for a year. Be good for ’em. Teach ’em how to live on their own two feet. And “best” of all, losing their Social Security benefits would FINALLY get the ‘gubmint’ off their backs. I think these government hating ‘Republican retirees’ would get quite an education after this year without ‘Big Gubmint’s’ Social Security. I think they would be hollering quite a bit. A dose of reality can do that to a person.
Pet, Teddy K pushed for [along with 2 jewish senators] and LBJ signed the 1965 Immigration Act. that sealed the fate of USA.
Found this online but have changed a little of it,
Overpopulation isn’t a problem in industrialized nations.
But They are increasing in population through immigration.
They aren’t even maintaining population at a steady rate of replacement.
The “overpopulation” argument should be —
that it is the responsibility nations to control their population but not allowing immigration and to practice self-sufficiency by not trading with nations whose standards for pollution are not equal to their own.
Yes, the ‘limit the population to save the earth’ people don’t have squat to say in Muslim or Catholic countries where birth control is verboten and in Africa, nearly unknown.
China, on the other hand, clamped down hard on excess population. Japan is dying due to cultural collapse/Fukushima/stagnating economy.
China, on the other hand, clamped down hard on excess population.
—By murdering 70 million? adults and lots of female babies.
And they are paying thru the gender imbalance and nasty ‘Little Princes’ who are not little any more.
Japan is dying —due to low birth rates? Yes, the radiation is also killing Japan,sssshhhhhh.
Lou, it is against the law in Japan to say that the low birth numbers are caused by the radiation.
(It is my impression that the Japanese tend to quietly dispose of freaks at birth, instead of making a fetish of ‘saving’ a baby born with no head, like we do over here)
They already had the lowest birth rate in the developed world, thanks to a decades-long depression (for reasons which won’t fit in a comment here), and now you subtract the stillborn and unmentionables, and their birth rate is approaching zero.
dispose of freaks at birth, instead of making a fetish of ‘saving’ a baby born with no head, like we do over here)— How long can a baby with almost no brain survive?
BBC says Germany now has lowest birth rate. And the popular baby name for boy–mohamed.
Here in Texas, I think the most popular name is ‘Jesus’.
But you see, even if it only lives a day, it counts as a birth. It doesn’t count as anything in Japan.
Long ago, Romans lived in Britain. They suppressed and killed off the various tribes and for slaves, they brought over others from far and wide in their empire. They did this everywhere to destroy tribal powers. It worked for several hundred years then it collapsed totally, utterly and completely and in England and the borders of Germany, Holland, etc. every Romanized person was KILLED. Not enslaved…KILLED.
And thus ended the empire. Our own empire doesn’t understand all this. Europe has forgotten the hard lessons of the past but then, my own family sailed out of Europe, said to hell with all this and took over the New World…only to see it falling to pieces now. Sheesh.
Now where can we go? HAHAHA. The fact is, who ever takes over usually gets rid of the previous population. Ask the Natives of North America how this works.
Apparently over $7 billion has been handed out to 9/11 victims in the US. As part of the compensation package the receivers had to sign papers that they are not allowed to sue various branches of the US government, but parts of Congress still seems to think it is ok to sue the Saudis instead.
Yes, sue the bastards. The cost of the several towers alone is several billion. The many lives lost in NYC and DC and over Pennsylvania are all at a high cost to everyone who suffered these losses.