Breitbart Readers Angry, Confused About Trump Turning Into Obama

President Trump Has It Wrong on Syria – Assad Did NOT Use Chemical Weapons – Deep State Neo Cons Misleading the President… | The Last Refuge for conservatives.  This article was from right before Trump stupidly declared war on Russia and Syria.  Conservatives find it very hard to believe their leader has utterly betrayed them all.  When Bannon was kicked out of the War Room, Trump allowed this because all the generals demanded this happen before they shoved Trump off the cliff and into endless wars.  Here is Breitbart repeating the news feeds:


“The strikes were intended to deter the regime from using chemical weapons again,” he said.


The missiles were launched from U.S. destroyers USS Porter and Ross, which were in the Eastern Mediterranean Sea at the time, he said.


The missiles hit aircraft, hardened aircraft shelters, petroleum and logistical storage areas, ammunition supply bunkers, air defense systems and radars, he said.


Davis said the U.S. military took care to avoid any human casualties. It notified Russia – and “many countries” – of the planned strikes ahead of time. There were Russian troops at the airbase, although it’ is not clear if they were still there during the strikes.


Davis said the U.S. struck an area where Russian and Syrian troops were not located.


“In this case in particular, every precaution was taken to execute these strikes with minimal risk to personnel at the airfield,” Davis said.


The strike was aimed at deterring another chemical weapons attack by the regime.


HAHAHA.  Talk about insane.  OK, no laughing matter except this happens so frequently, it is a joke.  How on earth can Assad stop using chemical weapons when he already isn’t doing it?  Duh.  Zero proof, of course, before jumping the gun by Trump.


The fact is, the generals and Pentagon and CIA, NSA, etc. get more money and power if they have the Cold War only they are stupid enough to start a hot war.  That is, WWIII.  Trump ran on reducing our foreign wars, make NATO ‘allies’ pay real money for defending themselves and talking to Putin to cool things down a tad.  And to stop illegal aliens invading America.


All that is now down the drain and we are on the same old same old: no money for guards or border controls for the US, citizens have to be checked at airports to see if they are terrorists while the borders are wide open to terrorists.  We will have all the crummy things we voted against, pushed down our throats yet again.


And I predict that after a few years of this garbage, there may be an open revolt.  This could lead to a civil war within.  The troops and police on the ground voted for Trump in huge numbers based on what he said he would do and now are increasingly angry and scared but not scared enough to revolt…yet!


They are the ones who will die or be hamstrung more and more.  And the internal collapse will continue and pick up speed.  I went to the Conservative Treehouse to see how the True Believers are reacting to this morning’s news.  Below are a selection of the smarter comments.  Most are in disbelief and still hope Trump will do what he said he would do when running for President:


Navy Squid wrote:


David you are so wrong. There is NO motivation for Assad to kill his own people. Do you know about the approx 250 people that were just kidnapped from Pro-Assad towns of Madjal and Assad a week or so ago…?? Did you know the SU-22’s (aircraft) used in destroying what was believed to be a missile depot cannot carry the munitions for chemical weapons? Thus the depot must have already had chemicals inside. Or the bodies were already killed and “displayed” on the ground for media effect…we’ve never seen that happen before, have we??


See here:
An AFP (al-Qaeda embedded) reporter claims “the smell” hit him when he entered the hospital. He meant the gas smell. But Sarin does not smell at all.


The White Helmets “rescuers” worked without even basic protection. That pretty much excludes nerve agents like Sarin or they all would be sick or dead by now. The measures they took in the videos would not be helpful to any real victim.


A reporter from the opposition Orient News tweeted yesterday(!) that they would soon report on a gas attack in that place – “prediction”?!

The alleged “impact craters” shown on oppo TV of the “bombs” looked more like mortar craters and were in a widely open area. Where were the people when those “bombs” hit?

The “doctor” who announced the attack first was jailed in UK for allegedly helping to kidnap journos in Syria. He was let go back to Syria (turned to work for MI-6?)


Attack some civilians when it just won back the cities of Hama and Damascus? Just days before new international talks come up? Just days after Trump Admin said Assad leaving is not the priority No.1?


  • Vicvrijsays:

    It is a very sad and awfull thing this happened. To solve a crime you always have to look at the motive , I am afraid that neither Putin neither Assad had any motive for this crime unless they wanted to accuse the rebels from the beginning, to have made a false flag operation on their own people.


    But it seems they were more or less surprised with what happened, while the rebels seemed to have their press alerted form the very moment it happened. Of course the surprise may have been cunningly played by Assads regime. But the fast announcements made by the rebels turn the coin in their direction. So either it was a false flag or a hit of a rebel held depot of stuff that should not have been there –


    We should not forget that thanks to Obama and Putin, Syria agreed to get rid of the poissons after the incidents in 2013 (that never have been clarified) , now it seems that they should have had the agreement of the rebels as well .


Bull Durham says:

The goal is not a new central government. It is to balkanize Syria. Break it up into many pieces.

So, all they need to do is blow him up.


  • jakegr says:

    yes, Yinon Plan. They want to break Syria into three pieces. Probably a kurdish region, a shia/mish mash region, and ISIS held territories will morph into a Sunni region.


    Then West/Israel installs puppet heads of state. The purpose is to prevent any ruler from wielding too much land, and thus, independence and power.

Trust me – Donald J. Trump is the LAST person who is going to get fooled on a sketchy WMD accusation.

Liked by 2 people

  • Mr.Right says:

    I really hope so… what we did in iraq is probably the darkest days in American history.
    If we repeat this in Syria we will never recover and fully join the alliance of evil.


    But I would be really surprised if Trump really did a 180 on Syria… I just hope its posturing to show compassion on the data that was presented to him.


    Because the way this de-escalate, is not the removal of a Asad, but the removal of ISIS and islamic “rebels” in the region.
    I will have to look but it seem Chicago was more dangerous then Syria before the islamic rebels started this war on the Syrian people. Asad didn’t run a model country, but considering the vial ideology in the region he was doing as best of a job as possible.


    And for the people thinking Iran is our #1 enemy… look at the prison history in Guantanamo, look at the last 25,000+ terrorist attacks. Iran is barely represented… The #1 terrorist source is sunni islam (saudi , qatar, etc..)
    ISIS got its root in saudi arabaia, not iran.
    al queada is rooted in saudi arabia, not iran…
    al nustra also rooted in sunni islam / saudi arabia.


Not a false flag. Not a hoax. The Russians figured it out! The Syrians bombed a rebel weapons depot that had CW. It explains the kids, and why they can be touched, then used for easy propaganda. The sarin was released as an improper gas cloud, NOT a proper drop which releases liquid mist. Wounded kids (see the bodies) were then killed by the gas.


The question is, WHERE did the rebels’ CW come from? THAT is motive.


  • The Russians admitted that the Syrians bombed the depot, but they didn’t make the connection that the bodies prove what happened. The propaganda of the kids’ bodies isn’t a hoax – it shows that BOTH things are true. The kids were wounded by bombing, but then killed by sarin release. The CW was not dropped – it was badly released by the explosions.


    Deep State had to get out in front of the story and pin it on Assad.


navysquid says:

wolfmoon…you CANNOT enter an area uncovered (no suit protection) that has Sarin gas. That is one purpose of Sarin gas is to make the area uninhabitable as the agent lingers for quite awhile.


This is highly likely a chlorine gas or mustard attack that was stored in the depot that was believed to be a missile depot. I assess the bodies were brought in for the staging effects as we have seen by AQ – Palestinian types for over a decade.


Liked by 3 people

  • But what I’m thinking is that it was NOT a proper release, which normal bursting munitions try to achieve to get that effect. I’m suggesting that it was a very inefficient but still-deadly local release caused by a sizeable, burning, high-temperature area loaded with bursting, leaking containers.


    NOT a proper dispersal. Inhalation of smoke saturated with toxin would be the primary cause of death. There could be thick clouds of the stuff being released, but it would already be close to the stage of dispersal. The victims would be those who got caught in the smoke – NOT those who came later.


People hoodwinked by our Real Rulers find it hard to believe they have been conned.  But they have been neoconned by the neocons.  And so it goes.  Will the right wake up to their obvious peril?  I wonder.  The left has gone totally brain dead at this point with only a tiny handful defying the propaganda machine of the left.  Consortiumnews  for example, still holds strong:

The New York Times, which has never heard an allegation against Syrian President Bashar al-Assad that it hasn’t immediately believed, has compiled a list of his alleged atrocities with a surprising omission: the Aug. 21, 2013 sarin gas attack outside Damascus.


Why this omission is so surprising is that the sarin incident was the moment when the Western media and the Washington establishment piled on President Barack Obama for not enforcing his “red line” by launching military strikes against the Syrian government to retaliate for Assad “gassing his own people.”


The retaliation, which would have pummeled the Syrian military, was hotly desired by neoconservatives and liberal interventionists who were obsessed with achieving another Mideast “regime change” even if that risked turning Syria over to Al Qaeda and/or the Islamic State. The story of Obama’s supposed “red line” retreat has become a treasured groupthink of all the “important people” in D.C.


So, for the Times to compile a summary of alleged Assad atrocities, which included a separate section on “chemical attacks,” and to leave out the August 2013 case suggests that even The New York Times cannot sustain one of the most beloved myths of the Syrian war, that Assad was at fault for the sarin attack.


And this revelation did not one whit of good.  The NYT happily lied all over again like they did so frequently in the past.  Perry, who runs this site, has been a noble fighter for sanity and he is a fine human being but like myself, he cannot stop the Machine.  He can only describe it.


Hersh’s Findings

Investigative journalist Seymour Hersh further demolished the Assad-sarin myth in an article that traced the chemicals back to Turkish intelligence, but the mainstream U.S. media was so hostile to any dissenting view on the Assad-did-it groupthink that Hersh had to publish his findings in the London Review of Books. Later, Turkish police and opposition officials corroborated much of Hersh’s findings – and I’ve been told that U.S. intelligence analysts now agree, at least generally, with Hersh’s conclusions.


Seymour Hirsh is another fabulous reporter who I have followed for years.  He, too is ignored by the mainstream media as much as possible.  Of course, he is, like myself, totally censored in US mainstream fake news.


The battle against ‘fake news’ by our rulers is a battle against ‘real reporters’.  It forbids ‘real analysis’ and anything truthful is pure poison to these people ruling us.  Citizens can’t be herded from one fatal war to another unless they are first controlled by the media giants.


And so it goes: if the rulers win, we get WWIII.  If they lose, at least we will have some chance of freedom and democracy.  But only if citizens can vote and voting is supervised legally, not fake voting like in the last several elections.  I am still amazed Trump won after all that cheating going on.


Kudos for the Hinterlands voting against the Machine.  It lurks there in the dark, seething with rage. If Trump can’t bring home the jobs or stop illegal aliens flooding in and instead, lets millions of terrorist supporting aliens to travel everywhere and attack us over and over at home, Trump will be removed from power via angry voters.


Blocking voting, there is always the more violent alternatives.  We shall see.  I do know that my own neck of the woods is very heavily armed.


MORE: NYT Retreats on 2013 Syria-Sarin Claims – Consortiumnews there is this interesting comment about how the news media cooperates with Zionist ‘think tank’ liars with a record of feeding false information to the media:

April 6, 2017 at 6:55 pm

Today, Eliot Higgins and Dan Kaszeta of Bellingcat blog are in the vanguard of propaganda about chemical attacks in Syria.


The BBC, UK Guardian, Time online, and public radio outlets generously provided media platforms for Higgins and Kaszeta.


Back in 2013 and 2014, Higgins and Kaszeta of Brown Moses blog were in the vanguard of propaganda about chemical attacks in Syria.


After the August 2013 chemical attack on the Damascus suburb of Ghouta, US President Barack Obama was ready to launch an air strike to punish the Syrian government for allegedly crossing the ‘red line’ he had set in 2012 on the use of chemical weapons. Two days before the planned strike, Obama announced that he would seek congressional approval for the military intervention. The strike was subsequently cancelled when President Bashar al Assad offered to relinquish the Syrian Army’s chemical arsenal in a deal brokered by Russia.


The Syrian government maintained that the gas which killed hundreds of Syrian civilians in Ghouta had been used by terrorist groups in the hope that the West would blame Assad and turn its strategic weapons against the regime. Russian sources stated that the chemicals had not been sold to Assad, but had come from stocks sold by Moscow to the former Libyan government of Muammar Gaddafi.


On 17 April 2014, American investigative journalist Seymour Hersh published “The Red Line and the Rat Line” in the London Review of Books. Hersh reported that British intelligence had confirmed to the Americans that the gas used at Ghouta did not come from the Syrian Army’s chemical arsenal. According to Hersh’s information, President Recep Tayyip Erdogan had allowed the Americans to ship a ‘rat line’ of weapons from Libya via Turkey to the Syrian militants.


On 22 April 2014, Higgins and Kaszeta published an article in the UK Guardian attacking Hersh. However, the technical claims of Higgins and Kaszeta’s were found to be either inaccurate or irrelevant.


In a 22 May 2014 letter to the London Review of Books, Richard Lloyd, a former United Nations weapons inspector, and Theodore Postol, a professor of science, technology and national security policy at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology addressed the controversy.


Lloyd and Postol stated unequivocally that “Higgins, a blogger who, although he has been widely quoted as an expert in the American mainstream media, has changed his facts every time new technical information has challenged his conclusion that the Syrian government must have been responsible” for the attack. Postol later presented a detailed refutation of published statements in the media made by Kaszeta.


Nevertheless, the claims of Higgins and Kaszeta continue to be cited by governments and mainstream media.


Lloyd and Postol’s concluding remarks from 2014 remain relevant today:


“We do not claim to know who was actually behind the attack […]. But we can say for sure that neither do the people who claim to have clear evidence that it was the Syrian government. The mainstream American media have done a disservice to the public by allowing politically motivated individuals, governments, and non-government organisations to misrepresent facts that clearly point to serious breaches of the truth by the White House.


For a detailed rebuttal of all of Kaszeta’s claims regarding the 2013 Ghouta chemical attack:


Accurate analysis of all primary and secondary evidence relating to the 21 August 2013 chemical attack at Ghouta indicate it was carried out by opposition forces. According to the most likely scenario, they used looted incendiary rockets, refilled them with sarin they manufactured themselves, and launched them from a rebel-held territory 2 km north of Zamalka.


The New York Times’ quiet retreat on its earlier certainty about the 2013 chemical attack will not prevent it from enthusiastically embracing new propaganda claims from the likes of Higgins and Kaszeta.


Filed under .money matters

34 responses to “Breitbart Readers Angry, Confused About Trump Turning Into Obama

  1. Melponeme_k

    I suppose we are going to launch missiles at Sweden now. Might as well go for broke.

  2. Lou

    I posted this sad news in another thread here.

  3. Claudeeyah

    Meanwhile, Alex Jones gets chapped lips from kissing Trump’s a@@. So much for being fair and objective, huh Alex? And never any mention of Israel’s role in all this. It’s why I got banned from Infowars awhile back.

  4. Claudeeyah


    But, but, but….Mel! It wasn’t a terrorist attack. It was simply a “Lorry gone wrong”, in much the same way the streets in Chicago “gone wrong” and spontaneously erupt in “gun violence”.

  5. vengeur

    As someone who has supported Trump and opposed wacko warmongers like Kim Jong McCain, I feel utterly and completely betrayed by this military bombing mission against Assad. I never believed Assad would be stupid enough to use gas, simply because it is what NATO would WANT him to do, and use it for a PRETENSE for NATO intervention. It is becoming apparent that TRUMP doesn’t know why people like me voted for him. This is a betrayal.

  6. Lou

    It’s why I got banned from Infowars awhile back. –Good for you. I am banned from Takis [either by Takis or Discus, not sure which].

  7. Claudeeyah


    Trump knows why people like you (and me) voted for him. He just doesn’t CARE! We have all collectively been thrown under the bus.

    I suppose they replayed the Zapruder film for him, just for old time’s sake. They probably went into a good bit of detail as to what would happen to his wife and children if he didn’t toe the line, so perhaps we all should have seen this coming. It seems the only way this is going to unfold is for us to hit the wall at break-neck speed. Maybe that was true all along. After all, the last President who actually stood up to them had his brains sprayed all over the interior of a 1961 Continental convertible.

  8. Claudeeyah


    Anytime you mention (((the tribe))), your days are numbered on many, if not most sites. To learn who rules over you, simply discover those whom you are not allowed to criticize. – Voltaire

  9. Lou

    #8–Voltaire did not say that.

    I found this—
    Globalism first, Israel first, Saudi Arabia first. Must.. stop.. Shiite Pipeline.. at all costs.

    Soros gives 240 million loan to Kushner for failing real estate, then Bannon out-maneuvered and ousted, then Syria invaded according to Soros agenda.

  10. tio
    {Cameron’s voice cracked with emotion as he spoke of the videos of victims after the attack. He said: “There are pictures of bodies with symptoms consistent with that of nerve agent exposure, including muscle spasms and foaming at the nose and mouth. I believe that anyone in this chamber who has not seen these videos should force themselves to watch them.

    “One can never forget the sight of children’s bodies stored in ice, and young men and women gasping for air and suffering the most agonising deaths – all inflicted by weapons that have been outlawed for nearly a century.”}

    Lotus Eaters all ..

  11. tio

    Fuck this shit.

  12. Ken

    I can only hope that Trump had access to information that conclusively proved that Syria was behind the gas attack. After all, he is supposedly privy to all sorts of information.

    However, based on what is publicly available, this was a stupid move.

  13. Melponeme_k


    It doesn’t matter what the information said.

    As McLuhan stated, “The medium is the massage/message”.

    Trump was forced into a pact. A pact that may have been of his own volition or he was coerced. Either way he sold himself out. And the missile launch was the sacrifice. People think sacrifice has to involve death. Not always. What was sacrificed was the good will of the public. Now Trump is truly alone. I’m not a religious person but as it says, “God have mercy on his soul”.

  14. Jim R

    That sums it up nicely. Nobody cares about him any more.

    Now when the disgruntled former ‘apprentice’ or deranged lunatic shows up with a gun to fhinsh him off, the whole of his existence can be conveniently swept under the carpet and forgotten.

    Tick – tock.

  15. ANYONE entering the White House is taken hostage! Ask President Carter…look, I said over and over the stupid story about how I ran circles around Trump. But I gave him the benefit of the doubt because Hillary is an OPEN ruling elite Bilderberg tool. Who is insane, too.

    We never have the perfect choice, we get to choose what is allowed. I have watched people fight the System and lose over and over again because this battle has been raging for many years.

    Trump has zero ability to penetrate the Dark Arts parts of this business, the Secret Societies, etc. We are at a key point in time: the official Skull and Bones black magic is on the 15th of April, a day that always annoys me greatly. Ahem.

    I know the ruling elites. They are sharks. They are very annoyed he won, remember, they told him to surrender before the first votes were counted! He cannot win them over to his side, their hatred is very personal and very, very deep.

  16. Lou

    Why is 4.15 special?

  17. Melponeme_k


    I would suppose 4/15 is significant for various arcane magical thinking reasons. Its a 6 in numerology. Which various sites state it represents the “As above, so below” dictate.

    We also have to remember these people are Luciferians. So the day would have to be an inversion. I looked around and discovered April 15 is an All Saint’s day for the Orthodox Christian Church on their old calendar. As we know the Elites HATE the Russians and they also hate the Orthodox Christians. Their church is the only church they haven’t infiltrated and perverted yet.

    Incidentally the fact that the 15th is a perversion of an Orthodox religious holiday adds a new dimension to Kubrick’s “Eyes Wide Shut” Black Mass. During that scene and inversion of an Orthodox mass was playing. Kubrick also used an Orthodox inspired piece, Penderecki’s Utrenja during the murder scene in “The Shining”.

    What does that tell us? The elites have it in for Orthodox Christianity. The last bulwark against their black magic.

  18. Taxpayer

    Idiotic move by Trump, signed his name to it and alienated his base and very little to show for it but a massive taxpayer bill.

  19. Jim R

  20. Melponeme_k

    In addition to the 15th significance, it is also Holy Saturday. I suppose the elite ingrates are piggybacking on the surrounding Holy days leading to Easter. By defiling the holy days, It opens the portal to whatever it is they want to contact.

  21. DeVaul

    Banning me from your site is one thing, but attacking Noam Chomsky because he does not toe your line is another thing entirely:

    “We shouldn’t put aside the possibility that there would be some kind of staged or alleged terrorist act, which can change the country instantly.” Chomsky stated. [one was just staged in Syria]

    “In order to maintain his popularity, the Trump administration will have to try to find some means of rallying the support and changing the discourse from the policies that they are carrying out, which are basically a wrecking ball, to something else.” Chomsky said.

    You mocked him, but Noam Chomsky was right and you were wrong, Elaine, along with all your lapdogs praising a narcissistic, egomaniacal, sociopathic, and well-known con man as someone who would never betray the peasants in the blink of an eye if it suited his own immediate personal needs, which always revolved around his massive ego and his incessant need to feel like a “winner” — a well documented history that has spanned 30+ years — to those who actually remember.

    But of course, only you are ever right.

  22. Jim R

    When Chomsky makes a coherent statement about 911, I will consider taking him seriously. Until then, I shall peg him as a ‘limited hangout’…

  23. Lou

    DeVaul, Jim;

    Chumpsky wrote 10,000 pages on the evil of the Corporate Controlled Media.
    He never mentioned the ((( ))) involvement and ownership
    of those oh so evil businesses. NEED I POST MORE?

  24. Since when did I ban you? You are HERE!

    AS for Trump, he ran on a platform I supported and then dumped it under duress, his first choices were all shot down by the GOP old guard as I said over and over again.

    Devaul wants to have who in office? Hello!

  25. Christian W


    When will you see that it doesn’t matter WHO you have in office as long as the CIA/Pentagon/Wall Street machine rules the roost. Will you vote again for the next sock puppet in 4 years time expecting something different? Accept the truth of the US system at last and act accordingly.

    And… KA-CHING! The US system wins again! Blood in Syria, profit in the USA.

  26. Claudeeyah

    Chomsky = (((tribe))).

  27. DeVaul

    “February 12, 2017 at 8:34 pm

    Devaul, if you no longer read here GO AWAY. Please do so voluntarily.”

    [your quote]

    I believe your readers are smart enough to know what this really means, especially when coupled with direct threats to ban me before this statement. I left because I am a gentleman and not an internet troll.

    As for who I might want as president (since you ask), definitely not your sociopathic Trump. How about Ralph Nadar? Or one of the former Green Party candidates before Gloria Stein? Or how about just not voting for criminals at all? That’s a right we now enjoy, but not for long.

    Congress is mulling a law that will require everyone to vote. I predicted this. It is the same law the UdSSR used to ferret out dissidents.

    As usual, Christian is right. Why does he howl in this dark wilderness?

    It does not matter who is president, and Trump knew that. He just wanted to win and stick it to the other group of oligarchs who insulted him, and YOU couldn’t see that, so you went berserk on the few unbelievers of the Trumpet and his “song and dance routine”. Lots of red baseball caps are burning in trash cans today outside the trailer homes of former white middle class workers who were fooled once again. Will they ever wise up? I don’t think so. Americans are addicted to “winning”.

    Meanwhile, Trump finally figured out that whoever controls the military will win the game he was playing, so that is why he threw missiles at Syria and walked all over international law. Now, he has the upper hand over the group who opposed him, and he can view himself as the “winner”, which is all he really cared about from day one. I expect him to go after those who peed in his cornflakes one by one while our nation goes down the tube because he has no interest in foreign policy beyond expanding his world-wide economic empire which is now run by his children and their spouses right out of their offices in the White House. “Pretense” need not apply.

    Chomsky wrote “For Reasons of State”, a massive book which changed my entire outlook on the US and how we are really viewed by the rest of the world. He has also written many other books detailing our empire’s crimes.

    I don’t believe any of you did anything remotely heroic, so throwing vitriol on a man who has risked his life trying to enter Palestine to attend meetings there that he was invited to while being detained by Israeli storm troopers at the border and doing other things that put his life in danger at the hands of both the CIA and Mossad has caused this site to reach a new all-time low.

    I suppose next Martin Luther King will be accused of destroying the American Dream or something similar by the readers of this blog.

    Who can tell? I only dropped by to see if Trump’s epic betrayal had affected anyone here, but apparently… not so much.



    ELAINE: I told you to stop arguing when it became obvious, you were not reading my articles. That is all, that is not a ‘banning’ at all. Refusing to read seems to be part of your MO here. Thanks for removing yourself.

  28. Claudeeyah

    MLK, JR = Soviet apparachik. He believed in wealth distribution, among other communist dogma – the reason our home grown negroes still expect to be fed and housed w/o the benefit of a job lo these fifty years since he was offed.

  29. Lou

    MLK like Mandela is like the Wizard of Oz.
    Since apartheid ended, nearly a million murdered in South Africa.

  30. Ziff

    Trump may be a dud but it was a good effort by the American people , no honour is lost in trying .

  31. Seraphim


    This year 16 of April is the Pascha (Easter) on both New and Old Calendars (a rare coincidence).
    In the Old Calendar used by the Russian Orthodox Church 4 of April is 22 March. The All Saints Feast is different from the Catholic All Saints (Hallowen) and falls on the first Sunday after Pentecost (which is a movable feast like Pascha, which is never later than May). It cannot ever fall in April. I wonder where did you find a Saturday 15 April marked as a ‘All Saints’ day. It is an confusion, easy to make because during the Great Lent Saturdays are dedicated to the commemoration of the dead and non-Orthodox people tend to interpret Orthodox feasts on their own terms. So, there is no occult meaning.

    But if you really want to find one, just remember the NATO bombardment of Belgrade in 1999 on Easter day, writing on the bombs ‘Happy Easter’. That year Pascha fell on 12 April. It was done in support of Muslim terrorists in a war which eventually led to the creation of the first criminal Muslim base in Europe.

  32. For some dim reason my ancestor, Henry Steele, chose that day for the Skull and Bones black magic ceremonies. It irritates me no end.

  33. melponeme_k


    There are a number of Saint days on April 15 according to this Orthodox site as well as it being Holy Saturday.


    Your ancestor chose the day that Jesus Christ was still in his tomb before the resurrection as an insult, as the day they think they are opening portals to whatever it is they contact. If they are contacting anything at all and are not experiencing self induced mass hysteria.

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: Logo

You are commenting using your account. Log Out / Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out / Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out / Change )

Google+ photo

You are commenting using your Google+ account. Log Out / Change )

Connecting to %s