Wishful Thinking

Throughout my long life, there always have been many people who question my analysis.  My proof of good understanding is, I often make predictions which then turn out exactly as I explained.  The ability to see the future is easy when one looks at it without expectations.  Understanding the difference between wishful thinking and a clear understanding of technical and natural forces is vital to anyone wishing to be an analyst.

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Before going into today’s news, I wish to explain the differences between wishful thinking and true analysis.

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1. Knowing the laws of nature in physics is science.  Wishing to violate or overturn these laws so one can zoom all over the universe effortlessly is wishful thinking.  It may be possible in the future but is probably not possible.

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2. Knowing that the earth’s climate has had many drastic alterations and that we are in the middle of an Ice Age/Interglacial cycle is science.  Thinking that we can keep the present climate status quo forever is wishful thinking.  It may be something we dreadfully desire but the chances of this happening is around zero.

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3.  Knowing all about how germs of various sorts evolve and operate is science.  Thinking that eating various special foods, waving hands by various sages and religious leaders, praying to various gods, etc. will protect us from all germs and make us healthy is wishful thinking.  Humans do have a better time if they imagine they are happy and healthy but in more than one sector this doesn’t work such as when germs take over our bodies and colonize it for themselves.

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4.  Knowing the history of economics, it is painfully obvious that once credit based on virtually no capital creates deadly bubbles.  It is wishful thinking that the creation of magic credit will not blow up in our faces.  Anyone with half a brain could see the recent credit bubble blowing up.  The fact that most mainstream ‘economists’ couldn’t see the obvious is due to the nature of economics: it is rife with wishful thinking.

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5.  Knowing the history of free trade, it is painfully obvious that whichever economic system has the strongest floating fiat currency ends up losing their internal manufacturing base and is flooded with imports.  Wishful thinking is, if only these same countries have more and more ‘free trade’, this will not matter.  This is where interpretation of simple charts and graphs comes to grief if someone is determined to ignore the incoming data.

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6.  Knowing the history of the rise and fall of empires makes it crystal clear, empires rot from within and as they fail, they go deep into debt and mysticism and wishful thinking replaces hard analysis and science.  I recall way back when I first began disputing facts with people on the internet, one of the hardest things to get people to understand was the fact that the US is a global empire!  This is a ‘DUH’ issue, yet many people just couldn’t grasp it due to wishful thinking systems.

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I could go on with many such examples.  The difference between optimism and wishful thinking is also equally important.  One can be optimistic that modern science will find other interesting ways to protect us from Mother Nature’s evolutionary scythe, for example.  One can be optimistic that the sun won’t go nova next year even while knowing it will inevitably go nova eventually.  One can be optimistic about changing political systems while knowing that this is very hard work.

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One can be optimistic about accomplishing things in life.  Wishful thinking is, imagining that one will live forever in some fashion.  It may be true, it may not be true.  But it is based on nothing except human desires, not empirical analysis.  I am really an optimist.  I am hopeful about the future.  But I am also an analyst so I have to warn people of dangers or explain how systems really work so we don’t misuse these systems.  If people don’t want analysis, they can go to the Wishing Well and drop the bucket and haul up whatever refreshments they desire.  But I won’t provide a Wishing Well here.  It is not my self-designated job.

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Plotting the biggest trade deal of the 21st century – Oct. 29, 2009

This past spring, prime ministers Stephen Harper of Canada and Mirek Topolanek of the Czech Republic met with European Union mandarins from Brussels. The setting was Prague’s medieval castle — made famous by Kafka in what is perhaps the darkest novel in his moody oeuvre — where they hatched a plan for the biggest free-trade deal of the 21st century….

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…When that happens, a push will begin for the ultimate goal behind the Prague agreement: a NAFTA-EU trade zone to counterbalance the growing economic power of Fortress Asia, and the ascendancy of the so-call BRIC (Brazil, Russia, India, China) group of countries….

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…Elimination of tariffs is only one piece of the free-trade puzzle. “The largest benefits will come from economic integration,” says Jayson Myers, president of Canadian Manufacturers & Exporters (CME), the country’s largest trade and industry association. By that he means increased foreign direct investment, improved labor mobility and full access to government procurement.

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Here is a classic example of wishful thinking.  The program to drop all pretenses of sovereignty and to pry open the US to even further colonization and deindustrialization continues unabated.  The people doing this play innocent when it comes to the dire downside effects of free trade.  They keep peddling this garbage because many players in this game expect to fool the US public into thinking this will be the final fix of what ails us.

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Look at what the Canadian Manufacturers and Exporters say: it will mean even more foreign labor will flood into higher-paying sectors and drive down wages!  And also, foreign powers can get access to the immense US credit purse.  That is, we end up paying foreigners with our future taxes used as capital for their expansion into our markets!

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It is wishful thinking that this super-NAFTA will make our own nation more solvent or will protect us from losing even more jobs here in the US.  The wishes of the people at the top who have lots of influence and power is to pry open the US system so they can access all our credit and use it to funnel all wealth and profits to themselves.  Already, we have seen how the wishes of international investment banking houses were pandered to and they were saved from their own messes at our expense.

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Naturally, they want more and more of this sort of economic philosophy.  It is making themselves richer.  And they want to lock the US into this system because we are the global empire and thus, have immense seas of credit still which can be sucked down by outsiders or Americans who are traitors and don’t care that this will kill our nation as a sovereign power.  We see with the way AIPAC has totally destroyed Obama’s international standing and has hijacked nearly our entire Congress with the passage of the bill last night that condemned the UN report that accurately described Jewish crimes last winter in the Gaza Ghetto incursions.

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It is wishful thinking when Zionists imagine no one notices they have hijacked our government and are now abusing their powers.  They think that brutalizing the natives in the Holy Land will make Jews more popular and stronger.  This is insane wishful thinking and history is absolutely clear that this will lead to a very severe backlash when the US goes bankrupt.

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Asia Times Online :: China News, China Business News, Taiwan and Hong Kong News and Business.

The United States and China are warming up – at least symbolically – their military ties ahead of United States President Barack Obama’s first official visit to China in mid-November. In late October, General Xu Caihou, the second-highest ranking officer in the Chinese People’s Liberation Army (PLA), started a long trip to the US. At the age of 66, Xu serves as vice chairman of China’s Central Military Commission (CMC), and as a member of the politburo of the Chinese Communist Party.

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Xu visited a few US military bases as well as the US Naval Academy, and at the Pentagon he met with US Secretary of Defense Robert Gates for the second time. They met once before in Beijing during the first trip that Gates made to Asia as secretary of defense in 2007. …

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…Xu was also accompanied by General Ma Xiaotian, deputy chief of general staff of the PLA, Lieutenant General Zhao Keshi, commander of the Nanjing Military Area Command, and Rear Admiral Jiang Weilie, chief of staff of East Fleet of the PLA Navy, among others.

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“In the interest of strengthening our military-to-military relations with a candid and open exchange of information, we will not disclose the details of the discussions,” said a US STRATCOM spokesman.

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Denmark describes the recent US-China “Strategic and Economic Dialogue” as “a higher-level dialogue” because the US-China military-to-military relationship typically lags far behind the economic and political aspects of the relationship, “primarily because a general lack of strategic trust and, frankly, China’s lack of interest in a frank and transparent military-to-military relationship.”

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This is the difference between wishful thinking and cold analysis: the Chinese have NO intention of becoming our dear buddies and every intention of destroying US imperial powers.  Period.  They have this goal in mind as the Great Long March to Victory.  They use every tool possible to achieve their goal.  I watched them analyze history up close, in my own home and if there was anyone on earth willing to listen to my lectures, it was the communist Chinese.

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Note the insanity in the US military remarks about this preliminary visit of the Chinese to get more information to analyze and then use!  So, our own military will not share information about these negotiations with the US public because the CHINESE want to keep this secret????

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HAHAHAHA….this is the face of treason!  How dare STRATCOM be candid with the Chinese while NOT being candid with us?  What on earth did they discuss, as if I can’t guess?  Let me warn the Pentagon here: the Chinese are discussing our surrender of all Asian power to China.  Period.  There is no other negotiations going on except for these.  Note, too, how the Pentagon figures out that the Chinese are NOT ‘frank and transparent’ even as we open the doors so they can snoop around even more!

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China is NOT our ally.  China is NOT Europe after WWII.  China is strong and getting stronger, fast.  China also has no desire to be under our heels and to be an ally.  China is a RIVAL.  But then, all our allies are really rivals!  It is wishful thinking that they are good buddies looking out for our own best interests!  This is why cold analysis of what is going on is nearly impossible for deluded people wishing for a fantasy planet earth.

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£4,350 per family to bail out Britain’s banks – Telegraph

The Chancellor confirmed that the Government would pump an extra £25.5 billion into Royal Bank of Scotland, and declared that it was the only way to keep the business alive.

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Taxpayers have poured a total of £53.5 billion into RBS, including the £20 billion part-nationalisation last year and another £8 billion that was set aside as insurance against further trouble in the future. In total, the Government has put £74 billion of taxpayers’ money into the banks, including RBS, Lloyds and HBOS, since the start of the financial crisis last year….

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It is likely that the new bail-out will have to be funded by government borrowing, which could only be repaid through swingeing cuts to public services or substantial tax rises over the coming years. However, despite consumers picking up the bill for yet more billions for the banks, experts said that the money would still not be enough to get them to increase lending to struggling home owners and businesses.

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I just marvel at how people in the UK and US can’t be very motivated to do something to these stupid, wishful thinking gnomes.  The gnomes wanted to have lots and lots of sex with very beautiful women such as fashion models.  To do this, they had to build many fancy nests and visit expensive playgrounds to impress these disdainful proud goddesses.  So they had to have lots and lots of loot.  To get this loot, they did many stupid things and this has now crashed in flames.  And to save the system, the people who don’t have palaces or visit exotic playgrounds on whim, had to bail these gnomes out.

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In return, all the taxpaying bailers get future pain and suffering.  Their lives will be worse.  They will be lucky to stay alive.  Meanwhile, the gnomes are busy, back at work, doing the exact same things yet again!  Nothing has changed….for them.  But it is wishful thinking that this lovely state of affairs will last forever.  The backlash in this sector is building, not diminishing.  And when it hits, it will make history. That is, history is crystal clear what will happen next: revolutions, coups and great violence will broil up out of the masses.

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The Raw Story | Obama warns of more US jobs losses ahead

“We anticipate that we’re going to continue to see some job losses in the weeks and months to come,” Obama said ahead of the release of unemployment figures for October on Friday.

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Economic indicators released last week indicated that the United States exited its recession this summer, but Obama emphasized that there is usually a lag time of several months before businesses resume hiring….

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…At a meeting of the Economic Recovery Advisory Board at the White House on Monday, Obama stressed that the actions taken by his government had “helped to stem what could have been a disastrous situation for the economy,” adding that “we are starting to see stabilization and indeed some improvement.”

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But he acknowledged that “we are still seeing production levels that are significantly below peak levels. And most distressing is the fact that job growth continues to lag.”

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Obama said that “bold, innovative action” to fight unemployment would be an “overriding focus” for his administration, and he called on both Congress and the private sector to help.

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From the year 2000 to today, at no time did we see jobs in manufacturing industries grow.  Not once. In the last 35 years, we have see the ratio of manufacturing jobs versus all other jobs drop like a rock.  Most of our economy is now a service economy and the entire system from top to bottom, runs in the red.

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This is easy to spot with any number of economic indicators!  Add to this the surge in foreign ownership of US businesses and foreign domination of US internal markets and the only sensation one should feel is rage and fear for the future.  That is, we are dropping into a well and losing our sovereignty, very rapidly.  At no point are any leaders in the US suggesting we protect ourselves from all of this!  Indeed, the ideological push is to make fun of ‘protectionism’ and to egg on free trade.

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This is fatal wishful thinking.  The Chinese, for example, are very eager to have us fall into the free trade trap.  They know how capital works.  They are not wishful thinkers due to recent history: many of them still remember to some degree, the devastations of Maoism.  As well as the elders remembering vividly WWII and the fight for sovereignty.  China shoved out all the invaders and became a sovereign nation under Mao.  For this service, he is honored.  The fact that he was totally insane is another, separate issue.

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Once in power, he became the victim of intense wishful thinking and every wish he had, the populace carried out.  This killed millions of Chinese in various ways, mostly via starvation.  This is why it is so very important to understand the true nature of analysis.

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Trial in Chongqing, China, Reveals Vast Web of Corruption – NYTimes.com

In recent weeks, Ms. Xie, Mr. Wen and a cavalcade of ranking officials and lowbrow thugs have been players in a mass public trial that has exposed the unseemly relationships among gangsters, police officers and the sticky-fingered bureaucrats.

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The spectacle involves more than 9,000 suspects, 50 public officials, a petulant billionaire (HAHAHA) and criminal organizations that dabbled in drug trafficking, illegal mining, and random acts of savagery, most notably the killing of a man for his unbearably loud karaoke voice.

.But like all big corruption cases in China, this one is as much about politics as graft. The political machine in Chongqing, a province-size mega-city of 31 million people in the southwest, has been broken up by a new Communist Party boss, Bo Xilai, who is the son of a revolutionary party veteran and has his eye on higher office.

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The NYT, of course, thinks this is more proof that China is a bad place.  What I see is, China is constantly cleaning house.  What if we had a real investigation of how corruption has destroyed our own government?  HAHAHA.  Just the other day, someone artfully leaked the news that Congress is secretly investigating itself for corruption.  But the true corruption is how Congress lets foreign lobbies like AIPAC run our entire nation against our own best interests!

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Corruption is how Congress is sucking down many millions from hedge funds and international bankers seeking the power to loot our entire economic system.  Corruption is how Congress is willing to let 45 million Americans have no healthcare while collecting millions and millions of dollars from insurance companies who seek to NOT insure many people but seek to loot us while minimizing healthcare as much as possible.  This internal corruption continues unabated.  Hell will freeze over before the NYT calls for an end to these corrupting lobbyists.

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All are united in one thing: none of these guys who own our Congress want to see lobbying halted or prevented.  So the corruption will get worse and worse.  When 100 million Americans have little to no healthcare coverage, will we revolt?  When over 100 million Americans are reduced to poverty due to free trade, will they revolt?

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History is clear: the answer is yes, there will be some sort of revolt.  What form it takes is determined by many forces. Since US people are heavily propagandized against supporting labor or allowed to even try to understand basic economic business such as the difference between capital and credit, the likelihood is, the reaction will be to the right, not to the left. That is, anyone espousing National Socialism will probably take over eventually.

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And that is my analysis and prediction.  Not my desires.  Not my wishful thinking. This is all about figuring out the past and understanding how it leads to some sort of future.

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  1. Fetung

    Meanwhile, IMF decides to give India Central Bank 200 tons of solid gold. I wonder what is the part of deal here. India’s support in case a war break out between US/Pakistan or … US/China? I hope not.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601081&sid=agjJPUU4xw5M

    Saudis are tired of the west “price fixing” their oil and have decided to ditch the NYMEX pricing to bypass the western regulation.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/markets/6480746/Do-Saudis-have-the-clout-to-destroy-NYMEX.html

    Iran kitty is selling oil in their own exchange system now. I wonder if they trade in dollars (HAHA) Saddam did this and got hanged in Iraq.

    http://news.google.com/news/search?aq=f&um=1&cf=all&ned=us&hl=en&q=Iran+oil+bourse

    Buffet is betting on railway big, big time. I wonder if he did this on the idea that a higher oil price would make trains a more popular transportation system again.

    http://news.google.com/news/search?um=1&cf=all&ned=us&hl=en&q=Buffett+Burlington+Northern

    Elaine, do you happen to know how much oil reserve there is in Bakken’s Formation in Tennesee and Alaska Reserve? Is the government hiding that there are large reserves of oil in these locations?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bakken_Formation

  2. ralph

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/042059.html

    This is for you Elaine. You are a CFR stooge. Enjoy your vaccine.

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    ELAINE: HAHAHA. That is so hilarious.

  3. ralph

    You should be ashamed of yourself for pushing your faithful readers into this CFR controlled LIE and forced panic called SWINE FLU!!! Shame on you!!!

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    ELAINE: I am assuming you are not pregnant nor a child (perhaps I am wrong on that one?) so you think this is all fake.

  4. flipspiceland

    Not to be snide but your claim to predict the future is suspect.

    What will gold close at today?

    What are the chances of a resurgent RINO party winning back the majority next year?

    You might want to temper your fortune telling, no?

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    ELAINE: Not to sound like a mother scolding a child, but if you do note, I said WHEN I make predictions, they are correct as future events prove me right. I never said I know or predict all possible futures. I hope you understand the difference.

  5. melponeme_k

    “Since US people are heavily propagandized against supporting labor or allowed to even try to understand basic economic business such as the difference between capital and credit, the likelihood is, the reaction will be to the right, not to the left. That is, anyone espousing National Socialism will probably take over eventually.”

    Yes, I think this as well and have seen it coming for the past 5 years at least. But now I see the process speeding up. And I see it being a woman, probably Ms Palin or someone like her.

    For those of us who aren’t caucasian, its a death knell. The question we should be asking ourselves now is, do we brave the situation to stay and fight? Or is it better to leave. If it gets that dire. I’m hoping for a slight chance that we forestall electing a fuhrer.

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    ELAINE; All national socialist systems rely on denying social services to some select group of subhumans a la Nazi Germany or modern Israel.

  6. Katya

    Hi Elaine,

    Haven’t read this story yet, but wanted to share a couple of items.

    First link is to a blog post “Scientists *Prove* Toxic Assets are Impossible to Regulate”. Here is a comment:

    The “what to do about it” question is as counter-intuitive as the math. The problem isn’t how to stop the trading of complex CDOs/CDSs. The problem is that if this paper is supported by other complexity theorists, no buyer should ever buy another complex CDO/CDS, at any price …

    … because not even the most sophisticated buyer with the NSA’s computing capacity could calculate the risk of a single complex CDO/CDS within the lifetime of the instrument. That means there’s no way to know if you’re paying a fair price for that risk, nor even to know whether an instrument failed through bad luck or the seller’s cheating.

    If this paper is correct, no one should buy any but the most transparently simple CDOs/CDOs. The rest are value-less – they can’t be sold at any price – and the government won’t need to do anything to stop them from being traded. No buyer will touch them.

    The problem isn’t how to stop the trading of complex CDOs/CDSs; if this paper is right, that will stop. The problem is the capital already invested in complex CDOs/CDSs totals several times the world’s annual GDP, according to this paper, and all of that capital will be inextricably frozen for the lifetime of these instruments. That is a giant, indissoluble clot in the world’s financial arteries.

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/10/18/14636/845

    The other is the Republic of Lakota website. The Lakota are up to some very interesting things, including, IIRC, recruiting new members to join their nation.

    http://www.republicoflakotah.com/

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    ELAINE: Correct, I agree.

  7. leavingtheoffice

    Elaine,
    The idea of a NAFTA-EU trade zone is absolutely a case of wishful thinking on the part of the EU. They’re crazy if they think they can replace Russia with Canada and plunder our resources. Canada has many layers of impenetrable bureaucracies and it takes years of negotiating with aboriginal chiefs before you can stick a shovel in the ground in any remote area. The EU will have a Muslim majority and we will be long past peak oil before Canadian resources could potentially flow to the EU on the scale they hope for, lol.

    BTW, my 4 year old WILL be getting the H1N1 vaccine. She has a history of asthma, so why take a chance?

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    ELAINE: Yes, they want Canada and the US commodities to replace Russia. And thank goodness you will be getting shots for your child. My son is over 25 and thus, can’t get it so easily. We are very worried about this.

  8. justiceatsqualor

    Flipspiceland,

    Predicting the future isn’t about infallably predicting all. I suppose one predicts what one can see with clarity. It is enough if many of those predictions are true and some of them come to pass in the face of ignorance or contrary belief.

    Wishful thinking is about getting other people to agree with folly. Perhaps easier than giving people clarity in the face of contrary belief.

  9. emsnews

    Wishful thinking could be foolish. Sometimes, it can be good. The point is to understand the difference between logic, science and feeling hopeful that some miracle will happen in the teeth of reality. Sometimes, miracles do happen.

    But we can’t expect this. We can only be happy when it happens to us.

  10. nah

    if you like job controll… vote union… not that normal work is perfect… i just find good jobs dont need the illusion of perfection to protect them from the government or whatever….
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    afghanistan is a mess tho… 8 years and the government cant even mean anything… people are just going to leave it to americans to fix everything
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    i mean the other ‘party’ is just going to quit because its all so hopeless and corrupt… thats not good…
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    so if we win the war are we going to hand over the army and police to drug lords and embezzlers because…. theres really noone else
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    let the hear pop music

  11. #2 if you add CO2 to the atmosphere heat will be trapped, interglacial period or not.

  12. justiceatsqualor

    @critical

    more “adaptation” and “mitigation” climate-change propoganda. Again, I suppose it’s all about bribing Third world local rulers with a cut of the handouts to get their people to reduce consumption faster than peak oil falls off. That way bankers can keep creating money without too much inflation, and then use what they don’t keep for the handouts. Recyle the handouts into western companies to implement the policies. Use a carbon trading derivatives market to pick up any slack and tweak the valuations and the caps to play games with trade balances between the West and the BRICs, etc.

    http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/photo/2009-11/04/content_8914214_2.htm

    1984 looks like so much fun! But what happens when people figure out it’s really jet con-trails, volcanoes, and solar activity that control climate change?

  13. ralph

    YES—– SWINE FLU IS A SCAM AND IT IS FAKE. IT IS CFR CONTROLLED PROPOGANDA, PLAIN AND SIMPLE. SCARE THE SHIT OUT OF EM, GET EM TO TAKE THE SHOT. KILL 2 BIRDS WITH ONE STONE. BIG PHARMA GET PAID, FOOLISH PEOPLE DIE, SEE HOW FAR THEY CAN PUSH BEFORE REBELLION OCCURS.

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    ELAINE: you have lost all contact with reality.

  14. payAttention

    ‘I watched them analyze history up close, in my own home and if there was anyone on earth willing to listen to my lectures, it was the communist Chinese.’

    This is of course an oblique reference to your own exaltation. Only the most elite of all have the gnosis that opens them to your revelations. Thanks for selling us out again, or at least trying to sell us out.

    Addressing wishful thinking, you might want to check yourself. You always get your foreign policy wrong looking for Zionists under rocks and in the White House. Zionists live in Israel. Summers, Geithner, Benake, Emanuel and the rest of their lot could not care less if Israel fell off the map. These people are not able to think beyond their personal benefit or self aggrandizement – how is that mirror looking? Ascribing a collectivist outlook to them is delusional.

    ΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩ

    ELAINE: my predictions come true.

  15. adammateyko

    Your explanation of analysis and what you do show me you are on the right path. The stories today are good examples of what is going on.

    Yes fascism is here today, look at the board of GM and the kick in the backside to Merkel, while she visited.

    Meanwhile the financial war goes on, as the US treasury is selling 2$ of debt for every 1$ it is retiring this next week. This is a geometric progression… not sustainable.

    Fx markets are gyrating, and stock/commodities in USd are gyrating in response. This only shows the chinese were correct to create bilateral Yuan swaps with their trading partners.

    The next step is for the USd carry trade to blow up and the USd hot money to return home; creating a USd short squeeze before the final plunge when the debt mountain collapses totally.

    Is this a rant? No, my prediction.

  16. flipspiceland

    I see nothing wrong with executing a man with a loud karaoke voice.

    ΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩ

    ELAINE: Like loud snoring, irritation can lead to great crimes of passion. 🙂

  17. the fool on the hill

    Well, I am not an optimist. I think humanity just flat out evolved fucked up, or perhaps we have failed to evolve sufficiently to avoid extinction. The suffering we endure at the hands of nature is part of life. The suffering we intentionally inflict on each other is completely unacceptable for creatures that claim to be capable of reason.

    Here is my prediction: Libra, or Mother Nature, or God, or whatever, is going to put the kybosh on this beast known as humanity, wipe the slate clean, and start over.

    The sun will go nova eventually but not for billions of years so there is plenty of time to go back to the drawing board and try to do better.

    And, if Earth turns out not to be able to spawn any real intelligence before the sun goes belly up, there are many, many, many other suns out there waiting for their chance to give it a try.

  18. justiceatsqualor

    @flipspiceland, wow you sure don’t like adammateyko?

    Deliberate hot money return, huh?

    Did you say within the next twelve months, or was that just wishful thinking?

    hahahaha!

  19. Jay

    “One can be optimistic about accomplishing things in life. Wishful thinking is, imagining that one will live forever in some fashion. It may be true, it may not be true. But it is based on nothing except human desires, not empirical analysis. I am really an optimist. I am hopeful about the future.”

    Yes, Elaine, you are an optimist. That is why you fuss about these things. You can see the way the world COULD be, and you look at how it is, and you try to figure out how to get us from here to there.

    I have found that most people cannot envision how the world could be because they simply don’t know and they won’t spend the time it takes. Their default response is “I have no idea what you are talking about; therefore it is a lie”. I get that all day every day from people with PhDs in physics about pretty simple things like what String Theory says. Not whether it is correct, mind you, but simply what the hypotheses are. These PhDs do not disagree with the hypotheses; they don’t know what the hypotheses ARE. Why? They only got their degrees 15 years ago or so. But then you find out that they simply don’t read even the newspaper. When I see String Theory make the front cover of a magazine, or when the Astronomer Royal says the same thing, I chuckle to myself. I just interviewed a HIGH SCHOOL student, and he had no problem talking about String Theory, so yes, there is hope for the future.

    This problem extends to vaccines, economics, climate research, and everything else. Most people do not know what vaccines are, how they are made, what the adjuvants are (even my doctor did not know that and whether there were alternatives), what the preservatives are such as thiomersal (thimerosal) and whether a particular preservative is still used (it is being phased out) in a particular vaccine, how the immune system responds to the vaccine, etc. In other words, everything necessary to rationally assess something that is going to be injected into our bodies. This is often too much trouble, so misunderstandings turns into screaming and yelling by people who simply will not sit down and spend a realistic amount of time on the subject.
    Vaccination: several hundred hours (more if you have to learn chemistry and biology first).
    Global warming: several thousand hours (more if you have to learn chemistry, physics, biology, geology, history of the Earth, and astronomy first).
    The Crash: several hundred hours in my case in 2005; cheap peak oil running out, several hundred hours plus looking a graph of plateauing oil output, and then a look at a graph of the housing bubble. I had MBAs telling me I didn’t know what I was talking about. They are unemployed now.

    It takes a very long time to understand how things work. Even if you spend the time, there is no guarantee you will come to any useful conclusions. But without spending the time, one’s arguments will forever be “I like it so it must be true; I don’t like it so it must be a lie”.

    We don’t even need to consider the subtle mistakes we make in logic because the above trumps even that.

    http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20427321.000-clever-fools-why-a-high-iq-doesnt-mean-youre-smart.html?full=true

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dysrationalia

  20. emsnews

    You don’t need to spend a zillion hours figuring out all things all the time. There are short cuts. Logic systems is the golden road to understanding many things.

    For example, all the hysteria about this or that business with vaccinations are thrown into the trashcan because we know for a fact that many, many millions of people are alive today thanks to vaccinations.

    No longer so the vast majority of children even in very poor nations die before adulthood. Even children who are very dirty, living in slums, poorly fed, are alive thanks to vaccinations. Any bad stuff in vaccinations pales compared to this truth.

    This is why I don’t get all freaky about these very small issues but am very freaked out at the attempt to defame vaccinations, our main and most important survival tool for our children of this planet earth.

  21. emsnews

    As for intelligence: even very intelligent people can be illogical. Indeed, often, people use intelligence to evade logic as much as possible. I would say, this is a natural human thinking system condition. Ask any psychiatrist about this.

  22. @Elaine: Ya know, Karl Denninger is constantly shrilling about the lack of a pulse in the American people. Let’s face it: the American people are absolutely propagandised. This is why they are always herded into voting for a politician from one corporo-fascist military industrial complex party, or the other. And this is why the revolt on the right has been utterly and totally usurped and hijacked by Fox News, Rush ‘Pillhead’ Limbaugh, Glenn ‘Nutjob’ Beck and other GOP operatives. And iy’s a pity that Gerald Celente is on THEIR programs, and not Air America nor guestwriting here. And no, the American people will NEVER revolt. Even if all three hundred million of us are cast into abject poverty with zero health care. We’re too passive and community-disoriented for that. And they won’t vote for National Socialism cause it smacks of that boogeyman, “SOCIALISM!!!!!” Instead, We The People will turn on each other, or as I’d like to quote and add on to Mr. Celente to make a point: When people lose everything, and have nothing left to lose, they lose it. And fight each other like starving rats.

  23. To all you swine-flu-is-a-scam-and-the-vaccine-is-worse-than-the-virus-itself conspiracy theorists out there: there is actually a shortage of vaccination shots out there, and people are trying hook and crook to get shots for their kids!

    http://www.doomers.us/forum2/index.php/topic,56095.0.html

    If there is ever a conspiracy in this, it is in deliberately NOT making enough vaccinations. After all, look how TPTB responded to AlQaeda’s plans and activities to bring about a 9/11 in 2001!

  24. Jim Dandy

    Ed…you need to head back to mainstream mediia land

    To Elaine, the MASTER analyst, VACCINE cheerleader (“poisoner”) and her mindless syncophants. Here are data and a few questions regarding the current debate/shilling taking place on the “value” of the H1N1 vaccine during the current “pandemic”:

    Question the first: do you believe CDC data. Is it accurate/trustworthy enough for our purposes here reviewing the whole H1N1 issue?
    Question the second: Do you believe that the H1N1 vaccine is broad spectrum or strain specific? If H1N1, is not broad spectrum (ie, works against multiple strains of the virus for the syncophants here) then you would agree that the risk of vaccines as stated by the manufacturers would outweigh the possible benefits if, for example, thru rapid mutation of the virus OR OTHER REASONS, it was discovered that the pandemic was in fact from other than the H1N1 virus strain for which the vaccines are purportedly manufactured for?

    “They say”…”they didn’t say”…”he said”…”she said”…

    Let’s bring it a bit closer to home and look at some interesting related numbers.

    OK…here are the CDC numbers indicating something else is happening concurrently at a pretty high rate.

    The numbers trend to indicate there is one or more additional NON-FLU respiratory variables occurring simultaneously in the US with, but collectively at a higher rate than H1N1, which supports claims made by many who have been ill.

    The questions are:

    What is it?

    Why is it not being reported?

    I will present the numbers first and then provide info on the source, which is reported by the CDC.

    This is a sampling of lab confirmed cases. Sampling meaning the testing reports some from only 80 US-WHO labs as reported by the CDC but can be considered representative of what is occurring in the population as a whole.

    WEEK 41 ending October 17, 09:

    12,943 respiratory specimens were tested.

    ONLY 37.5%of ALL respiratory specimens tested were POSITIVE FOR FLU (regardless of strain)

    This indicates there is another huge variable here…a variable accounting for 62.5% of respiratory illness that were severe enough to be tested in the first place but were not flu (of any strain). What is it?

    And what if these factors are being lumped in with UNCONFIRMED H1N1 numbers when they diagnose AND TREAT solely on symptoms leading, of course, to grossly inflated H1N1 numbers for greater support of vaccination and thus feeding this cycle?

    Got respiratory illness? No testing, just diagnose as H1N1.

    Even though the confirmed percentage of H1N1 is high, based on this past week’s data, over 65% of the H1N1 symptom-based diagnoses COULD BE some other respiratory illness(es)! This is alarming considering 1. people could be (probably are) being misdiagnosed and therefore not properly treated and 2. the emergence of the Ukraine and indian illnesses.

    According to the WHO and CDC numbers, something else is running concurrent with H1N1 at a pretty high rate. What is it? Why are they not reporting it? And is this a trend?….

    Let’s look at the previous week for a better picture (WEEK 40):

    13,921 respiratory specimens were tested.

    Only 29.4% of ALL respiratory specimens tested were POSITIVE FOR FLU (regardless of strain)

    WEEK 39:

    10,816 respiratory specimens were tested

    Only 27.4% of ALL respiratory specimens tested were POSITIVE FOR FLU (regardless of strain)

    In chart format for a 10-week trend:

    Week # – # confirmed Flu – % Flu confirmed of all respiratory tested

    Week 41 ending Oct 17, 09 – 4,855 – 37.5%

    Week 40 ending Oct 10, 09 – 4,093 – 29.4%

    Week 39 ending Oct 3, 09 – 2,968 – 27.4%

    Week 38 ending Sep 26, 09 – 2,126 – 22.8%

    Week 37 ending Sep 19, 09 – 2,326 – 23.9%

    Week 36 ending Sep 12, 09 – 1,378 – 18.2%

    Week 35 ending Sep 5, 09 – 1,085 – 20.5%

    Week 34 ending Aug 29, 09 – 1,109 – 17.3%

    Week 33 ending Aug 22, 09 – 804 – 18.0%

    Week 32 ending Aug 15, 09 – 525 – 15.6%

    I haven’t looked at baseline numbers from previous seasons to verify these data are unusual, but regardless, what are the reasons this is not being reported (simply to redirect, promote and sell H1N1 vaccine)?

    How much is this inflating the H1N1 numbers?

    But much more importantly: How many are being misdiagnosed AND mistreated with this diagnose ‘by symptoms-assume H1N1’ approach with these ‘other than flu’ numbers?

    AND is this a difference between viral and bacterial as the data are collected for viral cases (see below)? If so, what is going on with bacterial with severe enough respiratory symptoms for a doctor to test…is it bacterial pneumonia? At such high rates relative to the H1N1 flu?

    97 deaths were reported in India in the Pune region yesterday as “flu”. Pune is where the Osho Commune is. I was there for many years. Many people from all over the world – especially westerners come there to meditate. Lots of people, lots of traveling to all corners of the world. People in the Ukrane are told (see the Ukranian President’s speech transcript from yesterday) that the H1N1 is sweeping their nation but the doctors and people are calling it the pneumonic plague.

    So, from the DATA, it appears that the H1N1, receiving all the media attention and vaccine flogging/dollars, is really MASKING something else. Taking H1N1 vaccine is giving people a false sense of security at the least and poisoning/killing them more likely.

    Oh MASTER ANALYST. Please do read thy sacred tealeaves and discern the truth for your loyal followers!

  25. sandy

    it’s funny about the vaccine. on tv, they were trying to get people into the clinic for their free flu spray, without luck. they actually had practitioners outside with signs trying to lure people in, since it seems that they have an oversupply.

    still haven’t had the shot or spray, and still feeling fine.

  26. charlottemom

    Something very weird is happening in Charlotte regarding the flu (H1N1). It has significantly ebbed in my children’s schools — I mean to the point of nonexistence. But the city hospitals (one in particular) are inundated with flu sufferers. Packed rooms, everyone wearing masks, etc.

    It seems the epidemic is almost running on a separate track from my community and is largely unseen unless you have to visit a hospital (and emergency room).

    Odd.

  27. emsnews

    The flu is NOT UNIVERSAL. Thank gods for that.

    This has nothing to do with people getting vaccinations for diseases. It takes time for any disease to literally spread. But when it comes to speed, nothing beats diseases that spread via touching and breathing. Which is why we fear viral flu diseases.

  28. Steve

    Ed: “they won’t vote for National Socialism cause it smacks of that boogeyman, “SOCIALISM!!!!!””

    There’s no need to call it national socialism. Hitler did that because socialism was popular at the time. Picture Germany in the early 30’s. Everybody was out of work, the money was useless, the allied limits on Germany’s army meant that young men couldn’t even join the army. They were crazy restless, desperate, furious.

    Communism might’ve sounded good, except it required a bunch of warm fuzzy thinking about humanity. Workers of the world unite in solidarity. You’re a young man in 1930’s Germany whose country suffers all sorts of restrictions because of losing WW I. Solidarity, sure, but not with the damn Russians, French, English. No no. _National_ solidarity. _National_ socialism. Once we’ve submerged our individual interests to rebuilding the German economy, we’ll teach those others what the Germanic race is really made of.

    It didn’t matter that it didn’t make much logical sense. It could be made to sound pretty good, especially to pissed off young guys. They could then be sent out to terrorize the opposition. (The Nazis never won majority support. But they did attract enough violent kids to take power.)

  29. emsnews

    Correct, Steve. Except for one thing: there WAS ‘socialism’ with the Nazis. That is, if you were part of the Master Race you got all sorts of services including medical, school, etc. If you were an ‘untermenschen’ you were killed.

  30. emsnews

    CK: the H1N1 jumping so easily to cats and ferrets means it is MUTATING and going cross-species! Which makes it what, exactly?

    How about ‘more dangerous’! And how do we protect us from this? Um….vaccination time, eh?

  31. CK

    So vaccinate your cat.

  32. SurfBoy

    Hey Jim Dandy,

    I just took my 12 year old daughter in to the doctor with flu symptoms (fever, dry cough, aches, headache).
    After testing it was not either Influenza A or B. Still, the doctor prescribed Tamiflu because “she was in contact with someone else with flu symptoms” a day or so before. It did take the fever down after 1.5 days, but the cough is still very prevalent. If Tamiflu is part of the cure then it is viral, but not type A or B. What is it…???

  33. PLovering

    @Surfboy, “If Tamiflu is part of the cure then it is viral, but not type A or B. What is it…???”

    censored for handing out dangerous healthcare advice

  34. emsnews

    Surfboy, Plovering is not a doctor nor is he giving sane advice. If people insist on peddling noxious cures here, I will begin to censor these comments.

    This is DANGEROUS. If I say, ‘The CDC recommends…’ this is public information. On the other hand, if I were to say, ‘Ignore the CDC, take this chemical or medication that is on the CDC watch list…’ then this is wrong.

    That is, if someone dies because of this outrageous advice, you, Mr. Plovering, will be liable. So can this constant peddling of drugs.

  35. PLovering

    @Elaine,

    There is a patent covering colloidal silver.

    Whatever I say, or have said, about colloidal silver on this forum is covered in that patent.

    You have been misinformed – there is no CDC Watch List for colloidal silver.

    Colloidal silver is available at your local HEALTH FOOD STORE.

    So much for your bogus worries about children.

  36. emsnews

    It is NOT handed out by real doctors. Health food stores are NOT pharmacies. Indeed it is ILLEGAL for health food stores to make medical claims. These get hauled into court regularly to stop this sort of nonsense.

  37. PLovering

    @Elaine, “It is NOT handed out by real doctors.”

    Surely you jest.

    All dressings used by burn centers are impregnated with colloidal silver.

    Burn wounds not only heal faster with less infection, using colloidal silver dressings, but
    leave a lot less scaring.

    Not long ago, a doctor friend had a tumor removed from his back. His operative wound was packed with colloidal silver.

    Doctors use colloidal silver all the time, but are forbidden to don’t talk about it. The FDA forbids such talk. Damn shame.

  38. emsnews

    Using it on the OUTSIDE of the body is quite different from eating it.

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