The Lavabit news is huge inside the online community. I have been on the internet since conception back when it was a NASA/Pentagon operation connecting various physics and astronomy and other departments. From day one, the government was most anxious to spy on the scientists many of whom were quite naive about this. I always assumed the government is spying on me online. Not the slightest doubt. But the libertarians who are the core of the internet systems and computer world figured out ways to evade government eyeballs and thus, the alternative web which was secretive, flourished.
The government has spent the last ten years slowly strangling this internationally and with the NSA and the odious Patriot Act, has finally done a great job of eliminating secrecy online. The same process has been at work with banking. The US elites have isolated the Iranians no matter who they elect in elections as free (unfree!) as our own, no matter, the US continues to strangle Iran’s banking and export business because the Saudis and the Jews demand this. That is, the very rich and corrupt Saudis who severely repress their own people and have no elections at all for the bulk of the population there and the Jews who run the gross apartheid state of Israel and who hold captive millions of Palestinians who have no right to vote or even live in their own homes of their own choosing.
Greenwald moved out of the US and lives in Brazil. He was wise to do this otherwise he would be in prison like Mannings. Any computer geek who sees violations of international laws concerning war crimes or the Constitution of the US and then releases information showing these violations is labeled ‘traitor’ and physically and mentally abused and then a kangaroo trial is held except this can’t happen with Snowden since even a trial will have to be secret.
Which comes to the Lavabit horror show: Lavabit was used by Snowden to communicate with Greenwald and the Washington Post. The WP cheerfully cooperated with the Zionists who run our government and handed over whatever information about Snowden they had but Snowden personally communicated with Greenwald due to not trusting the WP which was very wise. Will the new Silicon Valley owner of the Post change this? I wonder. He would have to fire a huge number of editorial ‘writers’ (sic) and some reporters!
Lavabit email service abruptly shut down citing government interference | Technology | theguardian.com
Levison said government-imposed restrictions prevented him from explaining what exactly led to his company’s crisis point.
“I feel you deserve to know what’s going on – the first amendment is supposed to guarantee me the freedom to speak out in situations like this,” Levison wrote. “Unfortunately, Congress has passed laws that say otherwise. As things currently stand, I cannot share my experiences over the last six weeks, even though I have twice made the appropriate requests.”
Privacy advocates called the move unprecedented. “I am unaware of any situation in which a service provider chose to shut down rather than comply with a court order they felt violated the Constitution,” said Kurt Opsahl, a lawyer with the Electronic Frontier Foundation.
Congress knew they were destroying the Constitution when they made torture legal, ex-judicial prisons legal and spying on citizens in general, legal, they were violating the Constitution. But under the cover of 9/11, they could set up an ideal police state and this is why the CIA and Mossad did the ‘open back door’ operation on 9/11 by letting terrorists hijack multiple jets. They knew this was going to happen and the hijackers trained right in the center of Florida where a Bush was governor, the community hosting the terrorists has more CIA agents per capita, retired and present, than any city in the US and the Bush clan’s vacation island was right next door!
Of course, they knew what was going on and Bush Sr. ran the CIA for a while and knew all these retired CIA agents (he knew my father, too). The 9/11 event saw the emergence of the Patriot Act like Jupiter himself (I am coyly referring to Jupiter Island, the Bush hideout in Florida) from the stunned head of his father, Cronus. It emerged entire, written by Zionists who ached to impose this on the US public, strengthening their control of all conversations.
The US supports terror worldwide. Ask Gaddafi and Assad how this works! Al Qaeda is sucking down more CIA weapons as Israel tries its hardest to eliminate Syria as a local power. Again, Saudi’s hideous dictators are also backing terror and they helped create 9/11, too. And the first person killed on 9/11 was an Israeli Mossad agent who specialized in hijackings, the high jackers obviously knew exactly who he was because they slashed his throat immediately.
The excuse for spying on all internet conversations is ‘we have to stop terrorists (who are not working for the CIA unless they are working for the CIA)’ . The email provider used by Edward Snowden (and many others) shuts down…
The email provider used by Edward Snowden (and many other privacy-conscious folks) has shut down to avoid becoming “complicit in crimes against the American people.”
My initial guess is this scenario happened: FBI serves Lavabit with federal court order to intercept users’ (Snowden?) passwords. This happened with Hushmail circa 2007. The order can also be to install FedGov-created malware. Lavabit fights FBI surveillance demand in district court for the last six weeks, loses. Shuts down to avoid compliance while simultaneously appealing to the 4th Circuit.
It likely wasn’t a national security letter (NSL) because those are limited in scope and don’t apply to prospective surveillance, meaning a shutdown wouldn’t accomplish anything.
No one really knows the details because the US laws make it illegal to talk about spy orders. The courts hearing the justification for spying on everyone on earth is also secret. Secret courts=tyranny. All dictatorships and we live in one run by the elites, has secret trials, secret prisons and spies on everyone and labels anyone disputing or revealing this secret system, ‘traitor’ and look at Obama canceling his trip to Russia due to Putin, former KGB agent, protecting him!
The hollering about how evil China is due to spying online and hacking and secret trials and secret prisons has temporarily stopped due to Snowden’s revelations. I am betting it will resume once the news fades, like Fukushima news, from the US media. News: First Lavabit, now Silent Circle: Another US secure email service closes to protect users but this won’t help since the government will force them to hand over all the data or they will be put into secret prisons, too. So far, looking at who is covering this story aside from the Guardian, the only ones are the cyber freedom forums and outlets.
Ah, the Washington Post is carrying the story! Is this due to Amazon’s boss? Critics question NSA’s need to keep database and Two secure e-mail providers pull plug is actually on the front page there! The NYT better watch out. They, of course, have zero front page mention of this story. Bezos will send them packing if he has forced the WP staff to publish this story. I don’t know but am very curious. The Post may become readable again!
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7 responses to “Lavabit Publishes Government Secret Order To Spy On Snowden, Site Shuts Down”
I hope your Husband is OK. Or at least at peace.
And that you are OK as well. You make the internet a better place.
It looks like that old reptile Bush Sr. is never going to have to answer any questions … he is very old, and we hear periodically on the news that he was released from some hospital, without many details. Like Pol Pot, he will die of old age in the comfort of a bed.
But I ramble..
Also a Bush was ran or owned the company that furnished the security for the WTC several months before the 9-11 event….but that’s bordering on conspiracy theories, right? Just a coikidink.
Lots of insider ties with 9/11 and then there are the Saudi royal ties….
What about the (allegedly jewish) origins of the Saudi royals? And the (allegedly jewish) origins of Wahabism itself?
‘Lots of insider ties with 9/11 and then there are the Saudi royal ties…’
Tell us more.
The timing is just downright insulting. Obama tells us that he was going to let us all know about the surveillance programs before Snowden broke the news and suddenly we just have to close our embassies in the ME and Africa. See–Those surveillance practices are must be in place–how dare you ask about 1rst amendment rights.
As for the NYT. It’s been a big cheerleader for globalist neoliberalsim.
They’re all Abramists, right? Just which particular iteration of the cult of Abraham.